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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 11:51 AM
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FTN: McCain says "Senor Wences" while calling Chavez "despicable"
John McCain was interviewed on Face The Nation this morning. This former Viet Nam POW had just finished defending the use of torture by the Bush Administration. While referring to Hugo Chavez several times as "despicable," McCain threw in a quick reference to "Senor Wences."

McCain: "We were just saying off-camera, 'Senor Wences'." He waggled his hand in the duckbill motion familiar to those old enough to have watched Ed Sullivan back in the day.



This smear at President Chavez as "Senor Wences" was racist and it was despicable of McCain to use it-- aside from the fact it made no sense. Just a little xenophobic slur thrown in for fun. Well, Mr. McCain, there is a reason you'all said it "off camera" and it should have stayed there.

McCain’s “Senor Wences” slur proves Chavez’ points about Imperialism. The arrogance, racism, detachment from reality and Inside The Beltway privilege of cluelessness are hallmarks of the "model of domination" that Chavez was denouncing:

“The hegemonic pretensions of the American empire are placing at risk the very survival of the human species. We continue to warn you about this danger and we appeal to the people of the United States and the world to halt this threat, which is like a sword hanging over our heads.”
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“I think we could call a psychiatrist to analyze yesterday’s statement made by the President of the United States. As the spokesman of imperialism, he came to share his nostrums, to try to preserve the current pattern of domination, exploitation and pillage of the peoples of the world.”
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“The world parent’s statement — cynical, hypocritical, full of this imperial hypocrisy from the need they have to control everything.
They say they want to impose a democratic model. But that’s their democratic model. It’s the false democracy of elites, and, I would say, a very original democracy that’s imposed by weapons and bombs and firing weapons.”
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“The imperialists see extremists everywhere. It’s not that we are extremists. It’s that the world is waking up. It’s waking up all over. And people are standing up.”
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“I have the feeling, dear world dictator, that you are going to live the rest of your days as a nightmare because the rest of us are standing up, all those who are rising up against American imperialism, who are shouting for equality, for respect, for the sovereignty of nations. Yes, you can call us extremists, but we are rising up against the empire, against the model of domination.”


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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 11:56 AM
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1. Well, thank goodness, I was really concerned that
there might be a member of the RW who wasn't a cold-hearted drop dead bigot.

To think once some of us, myself included, thought this prick was better than the rest.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 12:01 PM
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2. Sorry-- that's another thread you're trying to be snarky about
I've already seen this new smackdown meme-- Try it somewhere else :hi:
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 12:25 PM
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5. Pardon?
Edited on Sun Sep-24-06 12:25 PM by notmypresident
Wasn't aware that you were in charge of my posting activities. Should I PM you before I post again?
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 12:33 PM
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6. Oh yes by all means please do
:spray:



The point of the OP was that McCain's despicable comment (while calling Chavez despicable) was a good example of what HC called "Imperial Hypocrisy."
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 01:04 PM
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7. honestly, I have not got a clue where you are coming from
McCain is a bigot.

Something about the way I commented on that fact seems to have annoyed you.

Sorry if I did not contribute enough to be worthy of your approval.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 01:09 PM
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9. As if it matters but I didn't get the
reaction to your post, either. Like it was posted on the wrong thread or something?
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 01:27 PM
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12. I don't know
I thought maybe they had noticed I often post short sarcastic statements and that was what was meant by "another thread"

English can be so vague sometimes.

Anyways, thanks for letting me know I am not the only one confused about that post.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 07:54 PM
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14. You're right, that was confusing. I'm sorry
I (incorrectly?) assumed that you were repeating a meme recently popular on DU (not by you) that *it's no surprise these Rabid Wingers are racist bastards so-what's-the-big-deal?*

In this case, that smackdown SEEMED to miss the aspect of McCain's comment underlining the arrogance and cluelessness-- and "obvious" racism-- of the Reich Wing. Similar to the "macaca" on camera comments.

It also shows how these Inside the Beltway In Front Of the Camera bad actors forget that there are real people watching them.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 08:47 PM
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16. Don't Let It Get To Ya. Some Will Constantly Knee Jerk Attack For Sake Of
attack. The silliest part of it was that in this case, you were actually in agreement with the OP and said a perfectly logical statement. Why your post was attacked by that which you agreed with is pretty perplexing, but it happens often around here. Some posters can get defensive so easily at the slightest inkling that god forbid someone was disagreeing with them, that they completely lose the ability for critical thinking and rational deduction. Don't let it bring ya down though, your message came through just fine. :)
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 09:01 AM
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23. I Have Asked You Nicely To Find Someone Else To Obsess Over
Wow-- artful mindfuck, mindcrime. One hour after I apologized to the poster, you come along and make a personal attack. Wrapped in a dilema smeared in an enigna slimed in an unsubstantializationedness tucked into an enima bag.

We've got your number :crazy:
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 12:02 PM
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3. That is it, s'alright? S'alright!
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 12:09 PM
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4. That's it
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 01:07 PM
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8. I'll tell ya who's damn "Despicable" and
that would ol' chipmunk mccain..squirrling away nuts for the fall of 2008.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 01:14 PM
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10. Namecalling: Reeps closest thing to Diplomacy
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 01:15 PM
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11. Senor Wences, eh? McCain is an asshole, Bush asskissing bigot.
"Maverick"-- please! He's just an appeaser, a liar, a bigot, and a fool. He'll never be president. He should give up now.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 07:47 PM
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13. Like Bush "reading the stage directions" (courtesy Stephanie Miller)
"In my line o work ya gotta keep repeating things over and over"
"Ya gotta catapult the propaganda"
"The hardest part of my job is connecting Iraq to the War on Terror" :wow:



McVain shoulda kept the racism off camera.
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 08:00 PM
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15. McCain is a fucking low life Mick...
That's OK, I'm a Mick too, but at least I ain't a fucking low life Mick.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 09:01 PM
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20. tsk, tsk. Sinking to their level. Besides, I think he's an American.
Most people from the Southwest don't cling to foreign allegiances and vestigial (and exclusively patrilinear) ethnic labels quite like folks east of the Mississippi. No one calls Pete Dominici an Italian, no one calls Bill Richardson a Mexican.
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 05:25 AM
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21. I live west of the Mississippi, thank you very much...
As far as McCain, hell, I'm pretty damned sure he's used the word Spic, just not in public, probably even Wop too, being the bigotted asshole he is.

But what the fuck do I know, I'm just an Irish Bug, but with a stinger, this is a hint, BTW, think of the Back to the Future Trilogy.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 08:52 PM
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17. For the record, Wenceslao "Señor Wences" Moreno was the ventrioloquist
the hand/wig/puppet was named "Johnny" or "Pedro" depending on which character he was doing.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 08:54 AM
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22. and the handpuppet had a squealy "Frito Bandito" voice
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 08:57 PM
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18. I guess McCain can kiss the hispanic vote away
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 08:58 PM
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19. Didn't he say Senor Cosa?
Edited on Sun Sep-24-06 09:01 PM by Gabi Hayes
http://snltranscripts.jt.org/84/84efranklin.phtml

now, THAT would've gotten my vote




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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 04:40 PM
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24. Thanks-- any foto?
Who did that creepy graphic!! :scared:
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