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MoseyWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 08:06 PM
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The New England Patriots Football Team
could be used as an example of "How To Be A Good Republican Business".

Don't pay anyone, other than the top few "CEO's", worth a damn. Get rid of anyone who expects to be paid a reasonable wage (reasonable for the NFL). Don't allow any of the assistant coaches or players to talk to the media.

They make me think of workers in the early 1900's who had no methods for improving their lives. Of course, they are, many are at least, paid outrageous money, but the concept is the same.

The Patriots have won three of the last five super bowls. They are cheap, and epitomize the repuke ethic. The Patriots. How convenient.

(end of thought)

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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 08:09 PM
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1. I'm sorry, didn't Limbaugh call them a bunch of socialists?
Edited on Sun Sep-24-06 08:09 PM by Kagemusha
Just wondering.

Edit: And industrial corporations don't operate under a salary cap.
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MoseyWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 08:11 PM
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2. Maybe
I really don't know. I haven't listened to him, and I don't watch most network/cable news shows.

I just had a thought.

If he said they're socialists, he's totally mistaken. Surprise. Surprise.

:)
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 08:13 PM
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3. I don't listen either, haven't for many years but it was widely reported
after one of their Super Bowl victories, FYI. Not that I don't see the logic of your argument.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 08:14 PM
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4. He is a major Pittsburg fan
so he isn't a fan of the Patriots.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 08:15 PM
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6. Until next January
when he will be a fan of the next Superbowl Champions
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 08:17 PM
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9. He has been a Pittsburg fan for decades
dating back to his early years in broadcasting which were in Pittsburg.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 08:18 PM
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10. Ahh. He jumped on the bandwagon when they were powerful in the 70s
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 08:20 PM
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12. That might well be the case
but as a long, long term Cincy fan, I had the major hots for Boomer back in the day, I get pissed when I am accused of being a fair weather fan now.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 08:25 PM
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15. Wouldn't suprise me, he is such a fraud anyway
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MoseyWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 08:15 PM
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8. to clarify
I'm guessing you're saying Limphead is a Pitt fan.

not me!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 08:14 PM
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5. They wouldn't do it if the public didn't fall for it...
It's related to the millionaires vs billionaires (players vs coaches) PR thing. Everyone ALWAYS is against the players, their union etc. ("those millionaire loudmouth whiners - can't they be happy and shut the hell up?") - meanwhile, the billionaire owners always get a free ride.

Gee - I just realized - one side is for black folks, and the other is for white folks. What an amazing coincidence.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 08:15 PM
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7. I am not sure your theory entirely holds up
From what I recall Brady insisted on being paid less with the extra money going to shore up the line. He also insisted on his linemen appearing in his ads.
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MoseyWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 08:19 PM
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11. The focus of this argument
is directed towards the "CEO's", not the workers who give up something in expectation of not having worse things happen.

Unions and their workers slowly gave up everything over the years until they have next to nothing left.

Brady is a worker, whether he knows it or not, and he lost the one piece of his puzzle that he wanted to keep; Branch. The "CEO's" didn't give a damn, even though they had millions to spend under the salary cap. They let him go. Brady should think about that one.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 08:21 PM
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13. admittedly that is a fair point
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MoseyWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 08:25 PM
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14. Hey
:toast:

and Dean for Pres!
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 08:54 PM
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16. ermm....

I dunno about this. Football is a team game, and 'superstars' were getting paid far in excess of their relative value in the football being played.

And maybe there just is excessive money floating around pro sports, which should be spread wider and less extremely to the very few.

Not that I like excess salaries and benefits to CEOs, but a semi-socialist view has to be consistent.
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MoseyWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 09:01 PM
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17. Part of what I was saying
admittedly, in a cryptic way, was that it doesn't matter what the few "superstars" make. They are still workers in a system that cheats them.

I'm sure there was competition among the overseers, and I'm sure the bossman was always watching.

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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 09:41 PM
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18. ..and now they are reaping what they sow...
..currently losing to the Broncs and looking completely out of step..
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