Freeper responses (US & abroad) to NIE report.....

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are so pitiful and pathetic it's laughable....unless the voting idiots at home buy this crap.

From RedHotCuppaPolitics (being spread around right wing blogs):

It's Clinton's fault:

The US more or less gave into terrorism overseas for a couple of decades before 9/11. When you kick over an anthill, the ants scatter, but they're even madder and they still sting. I think that is what is happening with Al Quada and their allies. The radical islamist movement has been growing for a long, long time here. We just slept through it.

And, oh yeah, Iraq had ties to Al Qaeda:

Part of the war on terror is to deny terrorists state support. It's not all of it, but Iraq's one of the beachheads.

And this is really the Democrats fault because we talk about it:

It would be nice if another part of the war on terror would involve denying terrorists their propaganda victories. Unfortunately, US Democrats and their buds in the media also find the same propaganda useful.

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A brain fart from Australia's Howard:

http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2006/s1748328.htm

JOHN HOWARD: Well my response is that there are many theories about the origins of terrorism and the factors that bear on terrorism.

One fact is absolutely certain, and that is that Australia and the United States and many other countries were terrorist targets long before the military operation in Iraq.

I remind you that the 88 Australians who were killed in Bali were murdered before the invasion of Iraq. And I remind you that the first attack on the World Trade Centre took place in 1993 - 10 years before the military operation in Iraq.

Oh yeah, honey, that addresses the issue: there is MORE terrorism in the world thanks to Shrub, you, Blair, etc -- are you stupid or just another liar? Nevermind (said in my best Gilda voice) -- I know the answer.

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From our esteemed leaders: :sarcasm:

http://voanews.com/english/2006-09-25-voa18.cfm

But Mr. Bush's Director of National Intelligence, John Negroponte, said that while there is much to be done in the war against terrorism, the United States has made notable success against what he called the "global jihadist threat."

A White House spokesman also said the published accounts of the classified report do not represent the full document.

Same old, same old.....stamping feet saying "we HAVE made progress" and "there's good stuff in the report but we can't tell you what it is because it's a secret."

And, yawn, more of same old, same old:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/iraq/complete/la-na-intel25sep25,0,7316247.story?track=mostviewed-homepage

But the White House view, according to Watkins, is that much of the radicals' rage at the United States and Israel goes back generations and is not linked to the U.S.-led invasion and occupation of Iraq.

"Their hatred for freedom and liberty did not develop overnight," Watkins said. "Those seeds were planted decades ago."

Yeah, that's it....it's everyone else's fault. And don't forget to add they had us for our freedom & liberty!

He said the administration had sought in Iraq to root out hotbeds of terrorism before they grew. "Instead of waiting while they plot and plan attacks to kill innocent Americans, the United States has taken the initiative to fight back," Watkins said.

WTF....we're back again to Iraq+Al Qaeda = they're gonna git us on our own soil!!!!


Oh goody, a voice of "reason".....John McCain:

Senate Armed Services Committee member John McCain (R-Ariz.), a likely 2008 presidential candidate, agreed with the White House view that such radicalism predated the toppling of Hussein and that radicals were always looking for reasons to recruit jihadists.

"If it wasn't Iraq, it'd be Afghanistan," he said on CBS' "Face the Nation." "If it wasn't Afghanistan, it would be others that they would use as a method of continuing their recruitment."

Well they FOUND their reasons thanks to you and your fellow rethugs, you freaking morong -- what the hell don't you get about the report (and pretty much the entire sane world) saying that?

And lest we forget Shrub's favorite poodle:

http://www.inthenews.co.uk/news/news/defence/iraq-war-blamed-terrorism-growth-$452699.htm

British prime minister Tony Blair, whose support of the initial invasion was questioned by mass demonstrations throughout the UK, dismissed the intelligence report's claims.

He told the BBC that he did not believe "terrorism has increased as a result of Iraq… or Afghanistan".

"9/11, which is the worst terrorist act in the world's history, happened before Iraq or Afghanistan and actually if you go back to this movement, founded on a warped and perverted view of Islam, the roots of it are deep, they go back decades and it is going to take us a long time to root it out," Mr Blair said.

"The idea that we are conducting some war on Islam is utterly absurd; the people who are killing innocent Muslims in Iraq and in Afghanistan are the terrorists, al-Qaida, the Taliban.

"We have got to stand up to it and if we don’t stand up to that is what will increase terrorism in the world as a whole."

With the latest estimates of an extra 50,000 civilian deaths since the 2003 invasion of Iraq, Mr Blair said he took "responsibility for what has happened and is happening in Iraq".

But he asked: "Who is killing these people? It is not British soldiers who are going in and killing innocent people in Iraq, it is British soldiers that are there with the support of the democratic government."

A report published by the UN last week showed that torture levels in Iraq have worsened since the 2003 invasion, despite former dictator Saddam Hussein's brutal use of torture as a tactic of repression.

Arf, arf....I freaking give up. Go ahead, make more statements that confirm exactly what the report said, you human excrement!


Sorry....I'm a little testy this morning. :evilgrin:

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1. Let's see...decades ago...who was in charge? Ronny 1980-1988 and

Poppy Bush? 'Hatred planted decades ago'. Could it have anything to do with the first Gulf War and the US betrayals that happened then?