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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 12:54 PM
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Rice"Leave the future for some other time."vs."The future is with us today
By Paul Taylor

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - Officially it was all smiles when U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice met the 25 foreign ministers of the European Union on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly last week.

But a pointed exchange behind closed doors on methods of fighting terrorism between Rice and Finnish Foreign Minister Erkki Tuomioja, whose country holds the rotating EU presidency, highlighted transatlantic tensions lurking below the surface.
It began near the end of the meeting, according to one participant, when Tuomioja said ministers were bound to be asked if they had discussed the issue of secret Central Intelligence Agency prisons for suspected terrorists and "rendition flights" to transfer prisoners to states where they may face torture.


Since the matter was not on the official agenda, he suggested they should all agree to say it had not been discussed and that they had agreed on all the points on the agenda.
According to the participant, Rice responded by saying all countries must keep up the fight against terrorism, noting that the discovery of an alleged plot in Britain last month to blow up transatlantic aircraft showed the persistent danger.

Tuomioja replied: "We all agree on the need to fight terrorism but we should do so in a way that does not create more terrorism in the future."

Rice shot back: "Let's deal with those who are trying to kill us now and leave the future for some other time."

Unwilling to leave her the last word as the meeting broke up, Tuomioja added: "The future is with us today."


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So little vision, I am tried of her absolutes also
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 12:57 PM
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1. Rice is an Ignorant person in a position clearly over her head...
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 12:58 PM
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2. Rice as Scarlett O'Hara?
"leave the future for some other time."

Scarlett: I can't think about that right now. If I do, I'll go crazy. I'll think about that tomorrow.

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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 01:00 PM
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3. General Republican way to do things
Edited on Mon Sep-25-06 01:01 PM by texastoast
Make hay while the sun shines and fuck the future generations. Rice has absolutely no vision whatsoever, nor do any of her cronies.

Republicans--the R word party

Rape
Ruin
Run
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boise1 Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 01:15 PM
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4. Those two lines would make an excellent commercial
"How will your children and grandchildren feel when they hear how Republicans felt about their future?"

Rice - "leave the future for some other time."

- "America, the future is with us today."
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 06:14 PM
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9. I thought it would too when I saw it.
which is why I placed it in the title, I like your addition of America to it.
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Karmageddon Donating Member (596 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 01:19 PM
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5. K&R. That is the definitive Condi. Just like her hubby, er, prez.
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nealmhughes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 01:19 PM
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6. What do you expect from a "Soviet expert" who can't read Russian?
But she sure has pretty shoes and plays a mean piano...
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 01:31 PM
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7. That's some great diplomacy
You get served up a softy that anyone would agree to. Deal with terrorism in a way that doesn't make MORE terrorist. But no simple ideal is too simple for the Bush administration. It's much better to try to one up someone than to engage in a little common ground banter.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 01:49 PM
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8. The hearts and minds of the world is what is being lost.
Rice the reactionary visionary before Senator Dodd and Senator Biden last year.

"I said yesterday, Senator, we've made a lot of decisions in this period of time.
Some of them have been very good.
Some of them have not been very good.
Some of them have been bad decisions, I'm sure.
I know enough about history to stand back and to recognize that you judge decisions not at the moment but in how it all adds up. And that's just strongly the way I feel about big historical changes.
I'm being as straightforward with you as I possibly can.


The idea that a decision cannot be judged at the moment but only retrospectively opens a slippery slope of justification.
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