Senate Session started C-Span 2 "compromise" on schedule

[Solly Mack]

http://www.c-span.org/watch/index.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS3&ShowVidDays=30&ShowVidDesc=&ArchiveDays=30

[Solly Mack]

1. McConnell speaking on enlistment rates being met

"reflects the patriotism of today's youth...they understand what is at stake to protect the nation rom AQ and others who would do this nation harm"

[Solly Mack]

2. McConnell still speaking...must read

Speaking on various hearings on post-Saddam Iraq (30 armed services committee)

and other hearings on Iraq...more than 80...and is now asking for a limit on the amount of hearings saying the senate has engaged in enough hearings on Iraq oversight

[LSparkle]

6. Have we found the 8 fucking billion dollars (or whatever) that was lost?

If not, then THERE HAS NOT BEEN ENOUGH OVERSIGHT, Senator Pillsbury Doughboy!

[Solly Mack]

7. That probably went to the CIA to purchase suspects from Pakistan

and other countries

[bigtree]

3. the utter hypocricy is stunning

here they are straining to give the Bushies permission to torture, and in the same breath they puff and brag about removing Saddam. The U.S. has fostered and overseen far more torture, detentions, and killings in Iraq than Saddam ever did under his rule. Now they want to give themselves indemnity after the fact to cover their torture-ordering asses. What a crock!

[Solly Mack]

4. Well said!!!

[Solly Mack]

5. Having a musak moment

[Solly Mack]

8. OK. I'm beginning to feel like I'm watching the movie "Speed"

where they show one loop over and over again while something else is going on

Get on with it already!

[Solly Mack]

9. "Waiting on Speakers to Speak" per C-Span blurp

[Mojorabbit]

10. Must be some back room stuff going on? eom

[Solly Mack]

11. Must be...last minute wrangling

that we aren't privy to

[Solly Mack]

12. They are showing Cindy Sheehan while we wait for the senate

[Solly Mack]

13. Landrieu speaking on Dome

and the workers

[Solly Mack]

14. Landrieu thanking the thousands of workers who worked on the Dome

and thanking others

[Solly Mack]

15. Still speaking on the dome....

bill introductions comes after the speeches

"Reagan honored us all when the GOP convention came here (to the dome)"

"Pope John Paul came"

"Honored history of the dome" is her point

[Solly Mack]

16. Sessions on "fencing the border" immigration bill

"effective in creating a lawful border instead of the unlawful border that we have"

Our borders with Canada and Mexico are unlawful?

[Solly Mack]

17. "time for us to be honest with our constituents"

LMAO...yeah, you really believe that...you betcha

[Solly Mack]

18. "get somebody to run it like it's supposed to be run"

funding and implementing the "fencing the border"


He's basically attempting to take other Senators to task for not moving this along

Claiming people are cynical when Congress says it will do soemthing and then they don't do it (which is a laugh coming from him)

[Solly Mack]

19. "these votes (fencing act) is a real test of the senate to the American

people"

Getting ready to "wrap up" his speech

"fencing works and we have a major problem"

[Solly Mack]

20. His "wrap up" is rather long

Now talking about how terrorists members get into the US...and how this bill will help to stop that

"A member of Hezbollah got in and was found in Dearborn MI"

[Solly Mack]

21. Sessions yielded finally - now Inhofe

speaking on how he wanted to make english the national language and how "liberals" torpedoed it

and to do "everything we can to interrogate these people and prosecute these people"

Inhofe and Sessions stroking each other with thanks and mutual admiration

Inhofe "people are on our side"

[Mojorabbit]

22. Climate change

I can't stand this man

[Solly Mack]

24. Me neither. He's dishonest

[Solly Mack]

23. Inhofe on Global Warming ...and the media coverage

"Hollywood elites and liberals blah blah blah... and then there's myself, as the senator that has spent the most time speaking about the science of GW"

"And of course I'm getting to Gore's movie"


"I used to be a believer until I started actually looking at the science"

He is saying how the media is obscuring the real science about GW and how Hollywood is helping and even says weather people do the same and how everything that happens with the weather is blamed on GW

"so-called hockey stick graph maker and his liberal colleagues"

"Global warming advocates ......and it's liberal propaganda bloc"

Not defensive is he? LMAO

[Solly Mack]

25. "My skeptical views on catastrophic GW have just gotten

more skeptical"

[Solly Mack]

26. OK. Inhofe can shut up anytime now.

He is giving me a major headache

[Solly Mack]

27. Said goal of treaties like Kyoto is to establish a global government

and that's why Chirac supports it and wants rich nations to exceed it..and to dictate US policy

did I hear that correctly?

I couldn't have...I must have missed something

[Solly Mack]

28. Now attacking Gore and "An Inconvenient Truth"

saying only 2 scientist backed the science in the movie

then it was only 5 out of 100 scientist when the media coverage said 100

quoting from a list "debunking" Gore's film


"imagine how long the list would have been if I had actually seen the movie"

uh...uh...never mind

[Solly Mack]

29. If Inhofe ever had to "talk someone down" - they would jump

just to get away from his talking

[Solly Mack]

30. Salazar speaking

Emigration and the fencing bill.

"Doesn't make sense to put a fence in the desert since we would rather intercept people at a point of our choosing instead of guarding an entire fence."

"We are going to put forth a bill that actually works for our country"

to add 12,000 new border control agents

extreme penalties for digging tunnels

[Solly Mack]

31. " we stand up as a country for morals and human issues"

that this issue demands (fencing border/immigration)

[Solly Mack]

32. Salazar yields the floor..waiting for next up

[Solly Mack]

33. Kennedy speaking on report "terror worse because of Iraq war"

Bush claims America is safer but the report concluded the exact opposite

the war on terror is more difficult to win because of Iraq

Negroponte should testify in OPEN session and a report should be made available to the people

We should hear from Negroponte before the session ends this week

[Solly Mack]

34. Bush and Cheney must explain their statements that are directly at odds

with this report

[Solly Mack]

35. Despite the conclusion of the Intel community reached 5 months earlier

that new threats are emerging because of the war in Iraq....the opposite is being said by Bush and Cheney

Are Bush and Cheney deliberately misleading us?

[Solly Mack]

36. waitng on the next speaker - Kennedy seems to be done for now

[Solly Mack]

37. Cornyn speaking (lucky us) Detainee/Torture

Talking about "prosecuting those who need to be brought to justice...in the pre 911 mindset...it concerns me we have forgotten the lessons learned from 911 by debating torture"

[Solly Mack]

38. Cornyn speaking on the CSRT

that the crst (combatant status review tribunals) give the detainees due process

He's talking up the "compromise" and is bothered that they even have to debate this issue

"meet and exceed article 5 of the GC"


It's his answer that the compromise offers no judicial review to detainees or their treatment

[BelgianMadCow]

44. he is totally blowing smoke

trying to say that decisions on unlawful combatants are OPERATIONAL military questions for which civil judgment in court is just not.. feasible

HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO????

Making it look as if time spent in giving due process to the emprisoned is time and energy lost because not spent doing actual fighting.

False dichotomy anyone.


"Hit us here at home", "pre 9/11 mindset"

:puke:

[Solly Mack]

39. Speaking on why removing habeas corpus

is good and legal and why it would harm the war on terror

that they're enemy combatants and no such legal protection is theirs by ruling of the SCOTUS in 1950

now saying how the litigation is making it hard for the US military to do it's job with all the lawyers at GTMO

[Solly Mack]

40. Golly, I feel so alone lololol

[LSK]

42. i have been switching between this and Randi

They finally are starting to debate torture now?

[Solly Mack]

43. Not sure if this is "the" debate but Cornyn is speaking on it

and I wanted to let you know he was

[Solly Mack]

41. now Cornyn is saying if we give the detainees due process

then the soldiers will be harmed because then it calls into questions all their actions in a time of war


like if the kill the actual enemy, are they now in trouble of litigation?

* it's a bullshit excuse but then it is Cornyn saying it

[Solly Mack]

45. Cornyn "we are at war...happier times produced blissful ignorance

move beyond that thinking...meet our obligations..and provide "basic" rights...but we should not tie our hands and undermine the war on terror by treating the rights of the detainees in a way that makes it hard to keep America safe"

[Solly Mack]

46. Cornyn yielded - Musak starting again...waiting

[Solly Mack]

Vote on Besosa next up at 5:30 EST. It's almost 11:30 PM here (Germany)

nominee US District Court, Puerto Rico

[LSK]

47. I dont think this is going to a vote today

Unless they make it a really late night.

[Solly Mack]

48. I'm think that as well..

[Solly Mack]

49. Besosa has been nominated...still waiting for the Senate to resume

[Solly Mack]

50. Senate has resumed from vote. Calling roll

[Solly Mack]

51. Musical selections while roll is called

caught something about a "quorum"

[Solly Mack]

52. Reid speaking. Missed most of it. Was afk

Frist responding to Reid's remarks


Not about the detainee "compromise"

Senate resolution 582 "Global Family Day"

other resolutions

going fast right now

[BelgianMadCow]

53. They are discussing the timing on the compromise NOW

[BelgianMadCow]

54. Levin asked Frist if the wording in the compromise is equal

to what was presented on friday. Frist said some minor changes.

[BelgianMadCow]

55. Now Dick Durbin on floor for 15 mins about the Hearing with the Generals

Democratic Policy Hearing that is discussed in GD now

[Solly Mack]

56. Durbin speaking on a bill and Iraq War Hearing

he wants pushed forward

Senate chamber looks really empty

Frist saying other things need to go before that bill..

Frist speaking on military tribunals...he said small changes have been agreed to but not substance changes...but no mention of exactly what those changes are

Senate about to adjourn until tomorrow

Durbin speaking again about the hearing earlier today about witnesses before senate (Democratic Policy Conference) to discuss the war in iraq...


"hearing is historic...first time we've had an opportunity from Generals that were in Iraq and give us their experience on where we are today"

"(Officers) testified on what is going wrong in Iraq"

[Solly Mack]

57. "generals gave testimony everyone in the senate should have heard"

Durbin going over what was testified to in today's hearing and how bad the situation in Iraq actually is

[Solly Mack]

58. "there is a fear in this administration of hearing unpopular information"

"demand answers from this administration"

[BelgianMadCow]

59. He is stinging about the absence of republican leadership during

the hearing.

[Solly Mack]

61. Yes...he was rather pointed with that

[BelgianMadCow]

62. Well that was the first time I followed a senate session

didn't look like hard work I must confess...

:hi:

[Solly Mack]

63. LOL Not for them.....but sitting through Inhofe was complete

horror for me

[Solly Mack]

60. "Glad Jones came over (to hearing) so it was bipartisan"

"If there are rip-offs by Halliburton, we all should know it"