Do you think that the Democrats really understand how we...

[butterfly77]

feel about this administration and what they have done and are doing to this country and people. They seem to still be afraid to respond appropriately to the Bushit.

Clinton has started the fire now it is time to add some kindling. What do you think it will take, are they afraid because they are being blackmailed or something?

[Atman]

1. They are on a different page

They are being threatened by BushCo...they'll expose all their late bills, their hooker rendevous, their drinking problems, their mistresses, you name it. These guys don't play softball like dems do. They're out for blood. Serious blood. Democrats, by the very nature that makes them "democrats," don't have the capacity to fight it. We roll over and ask for a belly rub before our screwing.

[AndyA]

2. I don't know what's going on, but I don't hear much opposition

from the opposing party. Which makes me wonder if the dirt is the same on both sides of the fence. With everything that's going on these days, I would expect to hear some screaming from the opposition. Instead, we have Bill Clinton getting in people's faces to speak the truth and...um...sometimes others. That is all.

[bowens43]

3. Yes, they understand.

They also understand that they can't win with just the votes of Democrats. They need the independents. Partisan attacks will hurt with the Independents.

[barb162]

4. bingo

[TahitiNut]

5. As an independent, I think that's an oversimplification.

IMHO, blind partisanship is the greatest turn-off, whether it's in viciously attacking Greens or slavishly supporting Bush (because he's "ours") or embracing (and funding) a total fascist fuck called Ben Nelson just because his label-du-jour is "D."

I think it's a fundamental error to cluster "independent" into some ridiculously simplistic and superficial left-right spectrum. If anything, the majority of independents are opposed to the authoritarian establishment politics of both parties where the loyalists cheer no matter what, and are liberal socially, demand far more fiscal responsibility (i.e. harness military spending), and are disgusted with the corporate ass-kissing.

Remember, "free market" and "export democracy" are supposedly "left" positions. That's why the current crop of GOP fascists include "neo-liberals."

If you want an example of an 'issue' that independents (such as myself) say "A POX ON BOTH YOUR HOUSES!" ... consider the fact that NEITHER party is screaming about Law Enforcment with EMPLOYERS when it comes to importing labor (NOT 'immigration' but 'workers'!!) and exporting jobs. But the addiction to corporate money is so deeply embedded in both Coorporate Parties that we'll never hear a unified stance from either party on this rape of labor, both blue-collar and white-collar.

[butterfly77]

6. They will get some republicons also...

but there is no reason to fall down and play dead get up and fight, in there face like clinton and those who they have not won will start to see the lies. If the dems say it plainly without beatin around the bush.