I wish Bill Maher would STFU

[nam78_two]

http://www.hbo.com/billmaher/new_rules/20060915.html

New Rule: The next Democratic candidate for president must not wait until after the election to show us his balls. Al Gore didn't make the environment an issue while running for president. But now that his only job is walking his dog--he's all over it. And this week, John Kerry says he's now prepared to kick the asses of the Swift Boat vets who smeared him. A little late, John. Who's running your campaign? FEMA?

My new rule: people that invite asshats like Christopher Hitchens and Coulter on their shows and then kiss their asses copiously, should not rip on the the few high profile people who actually seems to be interested in effecting some real change on the environmental front and who are spending their time and money on something other than antique bong collections...

For the record Bill, Gore was always an environmentalist and has always been pushing for change-and there is a huge counter force there (the oil corpratocracy isn't that easy to fight)...

sheesh....all these media people are irritating ...can't stand them...
jackasses....

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

1. Maher Is A Windbag

He is NOT, and even admits so, a Democrat. He's I guess a Libertarian. He also supported Nader in 2000, and has said he does NOT regret his decision. Even if Nader did have a hand in costing Gore the election.

He Kisses Up to his right wing guests, and even admonishes the audience if they should Boo one of them. He "pretends" to be left of center.

[nam78_two]

3. yeah he is kinda like those south park guys (whom I can't stand either)/nt

[BobRossi]

8. Bill nailed it...

Truth is the truth.

[rug]

2. Yeah, but it's still a good rule.

[nam78_two]

can't disagree with that/nt

[Mojambo]

4. A more productive way to frame this post

would have been to say you disagree with Bill Maher.

It's rather stifling to debate to tell people you disagree with to STFU.

For what it's worth, I kinda agree with Maher. Al Gore was still an environmentalist back then, but he did NOT make it a big part of the campaign (like he should have.)

[nam78_two]

7. Its has been hard to make it a campaign issue in the past

but he did NOT make it a big part of the campaign (like he should have.)

Its hard to make a campaign issue of something that the bulk of the populace doesn't care about :shrug:. Thats politics for ya unfortunately...

Its only recently that even the vast majority of liberals are showing much interest in this (I think Katrina had something to do with that). Poll after poll in past years have shown that the environment is 6th or 7th (if not lower) on the list of issues people care about.

I think that what someone does when they are no longer in politics, i.e. how they choose to spend their time when there is no political capital to be gained from it, tells you a lot about who they really are.

[ShortnFiery]

5. Bill Maher is MSNBC's Tweety with brains and no partisan ties ...

He's the comedian who's job it is to keep people off balance and he does his job well.

Tweety, however, parades as a legitimate Journalist but really functions to serve his RNC Masters as an purveyor of disinformation and distortion.

IMO Bill Maher is exasperating but at least he takes "heavy shots" at both sides of the political spectrum. I honestly don't think he has any ties - he's a hard core libertarian.

Tweety loves to hob nob with the Washington Elite, i.e., the worst kind of establishment media whore.

Maher is a Comedian - Tweety is Comedic :P

[Eric J in MN]

6. Firstly, Gore was ridiculed in 2000 as an opponent of

..the combustion engine. The idea that if only Gore had talked more about the environment, he'd have become president, is a dubious idea from Joe Klein.

Secondly, Al Gore is chairman of "Current TV."

[NEDem]

9. Why should he STFU? He's telling the truth.

The truth might sting sometimes, but its still the truth.

[InsultComicDog]

16. Indeed

I think most of us here have said something similar in our frustration... when are the Democrats going to fight back? It's still a problem and I'm glad that Maher is pointing it out. Let it be known that we expect our candidates to stand up for themselves when attacked, and for us.

[CBGLuthier]

10. You may want to give this a read

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech;, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

This being the anniversary of the passing of the bill of rights and all, thought it would be a timely reminder.

[nam78_two]

17. Its a figure of speech...sheesh

Its called letting off steam...
It means that I hated what he was saying ....
:eyes:

[LisaM]

11. Gore has always been really strong on the environment

not that the people running the so-called "debates" in 2000 cared at all about that. I don't recall any questions about it. There was one in the 2004 "debates" and it came from a citizen at the Town Meeting-style debate.

If Gore's views on the environment didn't get out it's because the press (who hated him) didn't cover it. When Kerry spoke here in the fall of 2004, hundreds of people waited hours to hear him in the rain. He gave a very thoughtful, well-written speech that targeted issues that mattered to our area (Puget Sound). What did the local (supposedly liberal) media cover? The fact that he and his wife had their anniversay dinner at the most expensive restaurant in town. Gore got pretty much the same treatment, so I agree that Bill Maher should STFU. The title was why I read this thread! I heard Maher live once and it was the most profanity-laden tirade I ever had the displeasure of listening to.

[Red Right and BLUE]

12. Truth hurts. Bill is right on this one. eom

[ComerPerro]

13. He does have a point though...

[GreenTea]

14. Where exactly in that "New Rule" is Maher wrong? He's right on the money!

Too bad Dem's don't want to face facts about how spineless most Dem's are.

They'd rather pretend otherwise, make excuses or hide their heads in the sand and HOPE for the best...And the republicans are standing right behind the Dems with their heads in the sand & their asses sticking out in the air...and the republicans just keep kicking them hard in the ass over & over and laughing....

As the Dem's scream, OUCH!!

Dem's never learn, just make excuses...they need to learn to fight back - NOW, not when it's too late and they already got their ass kicked!

[sandnsea]

15. Thank you for your week old concern

Nothing like waiting until after this topic has been beat to death to drag it up for a second beating. :eyes:

[nam78_two]

19. didn't come across it before/nt

[NC_Nurse]

18. He's got a point

That's why people are so excited that BC swatted Wallace on FOX News - because it happens so rarely that a Democratic politician fights back.

[11 Bravo]

20. He reciprocates your desire.

Sometimes Maar makes me laugh; (To Ann Coulter: "You just make shit up, don't you?") At other times he infuriates me; (His continued insistence that a vote for Nader wasn't a fuck-up of colossal proportions.) But at the end of the day, he's a comedian/satirist, and I want him to keep on keeping on. Any burr under the saddle of the entrenched power-brokers is a good thing IMHO.

[LostInAnomie]

21. I think Maher is dead on.

Both Gore and Kerry were far to timid to make waves during their campaigns and because of it the Repukes walked all over them.

As far as Bill's guests go, he is far from a Repuke ass kisser. He is a talk show host above all and he needs conflicting opinions. If he were to shout down the Chris Hitchens and Ann Coulters of the world every time they came on he wouldn't have a show for very long.

[sendero]

22. I wish every...

... addled Libertarian (that would be all of them) would STFU.

[silverojo]

23. Normally, I can't stand Bill Maher

But once in a blue moon, he gets off a true AND funny statement. This is one of them:

"And this week, John Kerry says he's now prepared to kick the asses of the Swift Boat vets who smeared him. A little late, John. Who's running your campaign? FEMA?"

I nearly did a spit-take when I read that! :rotfl:

[Cha]

24. I hope Al Gore gets invited to the

Oscars and wins a statue for "An Inconvenient Truth". Success is the best revenge. bm has always had his little daggers out for Al Gore.

[DefenseLawyer]

25. I think if you asked Al Gore

he would say that one of the mistakes that he will never make again is letting clueless losers like Bob Shrum and Donna Brazile "advise" him what issues he can talk about.

[cynatnite]

26. I gotta agree with Maher on this...

Actually that show was pretty good to watch.

Bradley Whitford is my hero. If I could have any more babies, I'd want to have his. B-)