ALERT! FOX NEWS WEB PAGE (THIS IS THE WORSE THEY HAVE EVER DONE)

[brettdale]

I think President Clinton should sue this is disgusting even for Fox news.

I URGE EVERYBODY TO KEEP THIS KICKED, It makes Chris Wallace look like Keith Olbermann.

There is no way in hell they should get away with this. Its sickening.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,215607,00.html

Former President Bill Clinton, never one to let truth stand in the way of a good line, has decided to reincarnate himself as our tough, anti-terror president.

The man who ran away from military service and displayed striking contempt for our Armed Forces has now announced that he did more -- and would do more -- to combat Usama bin Laden and Al Qaeda than anyone else. In his view, he should be recognized as the best man to fight that enemy.

Speaking to Chris Wallace on FOX News Sunday, Clinton made a bevy of startlingly anti-factual remarks. He announced, for instance, that conservatives had criticized him for obsessing about bin Laden during his presidency -- rather than the truth that he was roundly condemned for doing next to nothing about this serious threat to American security.

[Demobrat]

1. And the Dems continue to play nice.

News at eleven.

[Freedom_from_Chains]

10. Well you know, "Can't we just all get along."

When I see my country going down the toilet the answer is "Fuck No, we can't just all get along."

[Demobrat]

56. It's called taking the high road

to hell.

[Freedom_from_Chains]

61. You got that right

Let's all collectively grow a spine and take our country back. Or did we forget that idea the founders put in the Constitution that ultimately the responsibility for what happens to the country rest with us, the people.

[Duppers]

93. great line and right on

thanks.

[Freedom_from_Chains]

123. Delete

[Freedom_from_Chains]

125. I'm hearing a little AC/DC

"We're on the high road to hell."

[donco6]

2. You might want to check the copyright on this.

Doubt that you can post in its entirety. And why would you?

[brettdale]

15. people need to the lows they stoop too

People need to know the lows that they stoop too, thats why I posted the whole thing.

If they are printing this filth and getting away with it now what would they be like in November.

[IChing]

20. DU could get sued

I don't want that.

[donco6]

21. And we would be surprised . . . because?

Sorry, but posting inflammatory drivel on a propaganda site hardly ranks up with the "worst" that the Bush administration has done. But, whatever floats your boat.

[brettdale]

25. Im talking about

The worst thing Faux has done.

[IChing]

28. I alerted the mods.......on copywrite problems as should you

[brettdale]

45. Just cut it

I have just cut most of it out.

[IChing]

48. Thanks for the edited mods and brent...the editorial is

still a piece of shit...........maybe clinton will sue like he did on the path to 911 movie.

[muntrv]

3. Wow. Faux news actually removed their lips off of Bush's scrotal sack

long enough to write this crap?

[drm604]

4. K&R

Some one should kick this again during the day tomorrow, at this late hour it's going to scroll off of the page.

And yes, this is beyond disgusting. They have no shame. Somebody is obviously desperate.

[Redstone]

5. Thu usual appeal to the fox audience - who,after all

will NOT take the time to WATCH the actual interview, or, God forbid, actually READ Clark's book.

Redstone

[malaise]

6. Fuck Fox n/t

[Dervill Crow]

110. Hmmm. I was just going to say this. Glad I read on. n/t

[DemInDistress]

7. bush had his "Tora Bora" in Dec.01' and failed miserably on

purpose to capture or kill Osama. If OBL had been killed or captured guess what,no invasion of Iraq. bush needed OBL alive and well for his future fear campaigns.


Bill Clinton faced the beasts from faux tv and whooped their asses and tonight keith kicked them in the face,



good few days for Dems.

[lumpy]

99. Rather off subject but... I have always suspected

the kissy kissy love affair the Bushs' have always had with the Saudis has influenced the disinterest Bush has had in capturing Bin Laden. Something really smells about the weird connection between the Saudi family and the Bush family.

[DemInDistress]

105. House of Bush House of Saud .... still had the troops

captured or killed Osama in Dec.01' how could he have possibly justified attacking Saddam? We know today he didn't have the goods on Saddam and manufactured the fraudulent evidence to promote the war, but had Osama
been brought out dead or alive my guess is the people wouldn't have supported the naked grab for Saddam's vast oil empire.

Something smells badly within the Bush/Saudi family...

[brettdale]

8. email

[e-mail] <[e-mail]>

[lonestarnot]

9. Fuck Faux Snooze and the man behind the curtain, pay no attention to him.

[tuvor]

11. And to paraphrase Clinton...

How many times have they held the current president's feet to the fire like this?

I can stand political views different from mine, no matter how nutty.

What I absolutely hate is the hypocrisy.

[babylonsister]

12. Why the hell did anyone recommend this? I dare you to answer. nt

[gumby]

78. I recommended this post.

This article represents the 'alternative universe' that has been created by the extreme right-wing -- with Fox News' advocacy.

It is, I think, important to realize and understand that a right-wing 'alternative universe' REALLY does exist. This article is like a sun-dried tomato of propaganda. It dehydrated all the propaganda into the concentrated enabling myth of the right-wing extremists.

The left ignores these enabling myths at their own peril. This article is clearly just another sleazy piece of right-wing crap. But, it is offered in this current clash for history.

Whose history are you going to believe? The claim for history is very, very important. I, for one, don't want it written by Fox News and their "opinion" writers, which are basically the same as their "news" department. Fox News has a very definite effect on the population. Don't you know that?

This writer did have a new quip. He said Clinton is "quintessentially a temporizer". There ya go. They report to millions and millions of Americans; you do whatever you do.

[mojowork_n]

87. "Alternative Universe"/Bizarro World -- The War of Words

I agree, this is a horribly serious issue. It cuts to the heart of the whole RedState-BlueState/BushCoWorld-Reality-basedWorld cognitive dissonance.

Who can the average news consumer have confidence in? Besides telling their listeners how absolutely brilliant they are for tuning in to their drivel (and how gosh-darned smart, trustworthy, "truthy" and filled with uncommon 'common sense', their own views are, generally) the right wing radio guys are always "setting the Republican Record *straight*. It's propoganda, Karl Rove talk-and-spin 24/7...

This cited excerpt from Faux isn't the only example. Last night I was driving home late and I turned the radio to Sean Hannity. He had the same sort of 'Clinton's re-writing history B.S., and had had Chris Wallace on his show earlier. He claimed, based on some quotes from a speech President Clinton gave (taken out of context?) 4 or 7 years ago... that Clinton had "given up on catching Bin Laden". And of course, the 'main stream media' will never report those things'...

[Imagevision]

129. Allen, these types running for office should all be exposed and booted!

[tblue]

13. Fox sux. The b@stards never stop lying.

That is what they do, the only reason they exist is to fabricate a reality they pull right out of their @ss. Don't read their web site anymore, Brett, because it will only piss you off.

[intheflow]

14. I would love to see Clinton sue Faux over this.

It really is packed with lies, very slanderous. I doubt it will happen, though. I don't know why, but all the Dems seems to think if you confront the media with the truth (i.e., Clinton was strong against terror, Gore won in '00, Kerry won in '04) somehow the American people will turn again st the people telling the truth. :eyes:

[neuvocat]

16. What else did you expect? Seriously.

Why even bother going there? Are people gonna believe it? Yes they are. They will believe anything you tell them though because it just isn't like them to employ any critical thinking skills in this Mc Culture of ours.

[countmyvote4real]

17. The Propaganda Channel.

They revise history (including their own) on an hourly basis.

[nolabels]

63. At least they're consistent

:shrug:

[countmyvote4real]

77. Help me out cause I didn't chuckle.

Are you actually praising them for their consistent dishonesty? Now I'm stretching for us both when I wonder if your cheers for the consistent dishonesty of the GOP echo machine might possibly bring them down.

I don't know your circumstances. For all I know, you might live near a petting zoo in Indiana. That would at least explain your freakish response. Just duck and cover (and kiss your ass goodbye.) The "Islam-o-fascists" SO want to nuke that petting zoo for the attention of the world. The emphasis and the total casualties would be what? I doubt that it could come close to the casualties in NYC.

I'd like to believe that I am too raw tonight to get your laugh. I'll just leave it there.

[nolabels]

83. It was just a dose of sarcasm me thinks

Don't be unnerved, it's them trying times when it is most easy to learn about ones own feelings and others.
The contrast I was trying to allude to is of the others in the propaganda apparatus. They use a type of passive-aggressive tact to suck others in. They do this because some of the things they boast of is factual nature. If you start believing in them enough the lies they tell you won't notice as much or it just wont matter that much to you. Every once in while you will notice a lie but mostly the show will go on so as help you forget. When you are vegging in the brain waves of alpha the brain is highly suggestive so it will get dismissed as unimportant. The tricky part is when push come to shove like selling a war, an agenda, a (so called) leader or political candidate they are right there selling it too.

TURN OFF YOUR TELEVISION!
http://www.alternativescentral.com/turnoffyourtelevision-part1.htm

[muntrv]

18. Uh faux news, chimpy hasn't caught osama either. Chimpy also dodged

the Vietnam War. And how's that quagmire in Iraq going?

[bridgit]

19. i just love foxnews, they're so fair, so noble, so balanced, so...

american :sarcasm:

[Spiffarino]

39. I love...

...The Orange County Lumber Truck!

And in your dreams
You can see yourself
As a prophet saving the world
The words from your lips
I just can't believe
You are such a fool

Zappa wrote this about Nixon in 1970.

[bridgit]

44. i miss Frank...

:cry:

[Mr_Spock]

22. Please preserve this for all history!! Fair and balanced my ASS!!

They are just begging to self-destruct and blame it on someone else (just like Bush)

Republicans are the most passive aggressive cowards I have ever seen in my entire life.

Sickening!

[Scout1071]

23. They are slandering Bill Clinton.

Or is it Libel? I forget.

[thesquanderer]

24. Even they don't call it "news" though

At least they do properly label it as an opinion piece.

[lyonn]

26. Oh the "Foxs" do have a way with words

Actually it sounds like all of the neo cons' speeches since Clinton ran for president up to the latest from bush, rummy, cheney, etc. Distortions and just plain lies. Don't ya' love when they again claim Clinton is such a liar? I have not heard what the lies were other than the Monica.

I love it when they appear to be scrambling to get out of the hole they are in.

[Erika]

27. Faux News is in dying throes. They build it at the expense of

Clinton and he just told them how it was and to go get F'd.

Faux was an enabler of terrorists, much more willing to go after Clinton than terrorists. That is now known and documented.

In a way it's humuorous, they were going after Clinton when Newt, Livingston, Burton and Watts had done much worse.

All in all, Faux has lowered news to the level of a sewage stream in a third world country.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

29. What the fuck dude?

Some wanker writes a fucking stupid editorial and all of a sudden it's THE WORSE THING EVER AND HEE SHOULD SOOOOO SUEEEEEEOOOO?

Are you even fucking aware of the life and death issues going on in this world right now? Where in the fucking priority scheme does a baseless lawsooooooooooooot against Faux fall?

It's a stupid fucking right-wing editorial on a right-wing news site. For fuck's sake get over it. Give the megaphone to someone else and chill the fuck out. Or at least get pissed off over something worthwhile.

[Erika]

34. Get Real Faux has fought against every humane issue there is

and they are powerful on the non-thinkers. This is something to get pisses about. Faux is the leader against any progressive movement to help Americans. Like I said, get real.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

51. Whatever.

I'm sure the fight against this editorial will go down as one of the most important actions of the progressive movement in the United States in the early years of the twenty-first century. The cry of "Remember the Fox News Editorial!" will ring out in union halls across the country. And when the historians tell of this time, they will rank the Battle of the Fox News Editorial alongside the New Deal and Johnson's Great Society in terms of its political impact.

Get real? How's this for real:

Fox News is a business. More than that, it's a Rupert Murdoch business. Which means that while its politics may be right-wing, its bottom line is alwaysmoney. So they love the little shit-storm they've brewed up right now. They love the fact that it pisses off people like you in the OP. And they really love the fact that you link to their web page, which sends money to Murdoch, which makes Murdoch happy.

Furthermore, I'm not sure how me getting angry about some stupid Fox editorial does anything for any cause, anywhere. Fox is a right-wing source. This means they print right-wing crap, broadcast right-wing crap, and post right-wing crap on their right-wing crap website. And I'd rather not go there at all, as it's just an exercise in getting myself pissed off over something which is completely irrelevant.

[Erika]

55. Who linked to their news page?

Whatever is quite correct. Clinton had the guts to recognize Faux as a major tool of the right wing, and had the guts to put them down. Why not you?

Whatever.

[jbnow]

41. Psst

Wanted to tell you quietly that if the OP went over the line a little, maybe you should also think about getting pissed off over something more worth while and uh, chill out.

[Erika]

47. How nice. n/t

[last1standing]

30. This is no better than a broken record...

endlessly looping on the scratches and playing the same worn out talking points over and over again. "Aspirin factory...empty tents in the desert...eight years....Sudan offered...etc..." Every one of these well worn lines has been proved untrue, but the wing nuts just keep playing them until the rest of us are ready to break the God Damned record player. But faux knows their audience, and the ignorant masses who want to hear this drivel will clap their hands like simpletons and ask to hear it again.

Note: Apologies to those here who have never heard a record skip (Damn! I'm old).

[LTR]

31. Now THAT'S desperation!

They pulled out everything they had in this article! This is the funniest shit I've ever read on their site!

:rofl:

They even called him a draft dodger! :wtf:

Never mind all those deferrments Cheney got. And don't even get me started on AWOL Bush.

This is conservoporn. Nobody's gonna buy this shit. It's just spinsanity from FAUX.

[Zomby Woof]

32. They got hit where they live

They are now lashing out like the wounded beast they are. This piece of shit screed is proof that he succeeded.

[dave123williams]

135. Definately. Agreed.

[Spiffarino]

33. No K&R. Why regurgitate this lying shitsack's meme?

With respect to the OP, I don't understand why this needs kicking.

Cass is factually challenged, preferring instead to spout the right-wing's version of the Clinton legacy. This is the same bullshit they spewed while he was president. I expect most people are as tired of it as we are. There's no point in revisiting these lies.

[C_U_L8R]

35. the hair loss ad in the middle said everything

Faux and Faux's audience is pretty pathetic

[tabasco]

36. I already emailed them about this disgusting piece of filth.

Dirty rotten liars, cowards, and traitors.

[Historic NY]

59. I already wrote them..........

Explain why our present administration refused to even accept the bin Laden threat. Connie Rice shelved any of the information provided by the previous administration during it transition meeting. We later find out from Richard Clarke that Clinton indeed was intent on getting bin Laden. If Fox NEWS is asking questions perhaps they should ask President Bush why he did nothing, to take up the hunt for Osama. Bush had a full eight months to digest all the transition reports, briefings from CIA Tenat, Richard Clarke, etc. He allegedly didn't pickup any of the stuff until the week before the planes hit. 911 wasn't an intelligence failure it was a failure to concede that anything the previous administration was involved in was worth following up on. Clinton may have tried and failed but he was putting the pieces of bin Laden together as a threat to this country. He was responsible for the capturing & prosecuting the suspects in the first bombing of the World Trade Center. Perhaps if the Republican Congress under Clinton was more concerned about bin Laden & terrorism instead of a blow job they would have supported and aided his efforts. Clinton took bin Laden seriously did Bush?

[Maraya1969]

37. In case you want to write in support of Clinton here is the Faux email

[e-mail] <[e-mail]>

[DKRC]

106. I did . Here's the message:

"Lies now should not go unanswered."

They didn't. Chris got a new one ripped & his balls
left the building in Clinton's pocket.
Y'all should never have set this up. The backlash of
the majority of Americans is growing against your
format of all lies, all the time.

Good luck. You're going to need it.

[madmusic]

38. Just did my first alert.

For this bashing piece of trash.

[Brundle_Fly]

40. I find it hilarious.

Fox more and more is exposing themselves as plain old propaganda.

This is a flat, boring, purely incorrect and poorly written attempt at trying to recoup even a dollop of journalistic integrity, and they have to do all with lies, in a thinly veiled "opinion piece"

This shouldn't worry anyone here, there is people that will go along with blasting clinton forever. 20% of that clinton bashing base, goes to free republic and are forever lost... the other 80% don't have the internet whatsoever.

Bill Clinton, made enough of an impact in that session, that fox HAS to put this crap out to try to remold the story. They know it didn't play like they wanted, Clinton Crazed, perhaps, yet making sense, shit, what have we done.... !!

The tide is turning, the King has no clothes! They exposed themselves, the Dem's should hit fox hard, and call them what they are, Republican Infotainment Propaganda.

Don't worry guys, the October surprise is weeks away.

[Erika]

42. How embarrassing for Mike Wallace

Is is the short man's syndrome that Chris suffers from?

[Raffi Ella]

43. Spin FAUX Spin!

The sheeple heard some truth!!!!OH NO!!They're gonna start questioning your lies and propaganda!!Spinnnn FAUX Spinnnn!

[cui bono]

46. what are the FCC laws...

regarding all the intentional lies that go out over the airways, be it TV or radio (I realize this thread is about the internet article but I've been wondering about this in regards to the airwaves)? I mean really, if CBS has to pay a hefty fine for a little nippage slip up, and radio stations have to pay fines for particular words being said, shouldn't they have to pay fines for the far more offensive act of intentionally telling lies to deliberately mislead people and put forth a particular agenda? Is there not some law against this sort of thing?

[Erika]

52. Nah, Bushbots control this

You're on your own. The Bushbots have turned our government into the W regime, and his appointees march in step. Bushbots find comfort in that control and rigidity by others.

[magellan]

49. If FAUX had any credibility as a news org this would be shocking

But in the process of keeping their terminally brain dead audience happy they've only proved Clinton's point, that they're nothing but a RW propaganda mouthpiece.

Geez, could you tell Murdoch runs that outfit? Next it'll be "Aliens are reproducing in your septic tank!"

[Erika]

62. Cavuto is showing you how to hedge against the aliens

in your stocks.

[upi402]

50. yes, news traitors

shocked, shocked I tell you
:hangover:

[rodeodance]

53. First they take the interview off utube-now this. Wonder what they are

so afraid of?

[mucifer]

54. It's an editorial not a news story.

It answers questions like why did bush do nothing for 8 months with "well Clinton doged the draft and protested against the VietNam war." How stupid. It's writen so bad that I could tear it apart and I'm not that bright.

[Erika]

58. Why hasn't W yet caught OBL should be the question

He's had over 5 years.

[otohara]

57. Lies now should not go unanswered.

Oh that's rich

[eppur_se_muova]

116. Why the word "now"? Were lies OK before--when FAUX was telling them?

They always manage to give away what they're *really* thinking.

[Old and In the Way]

60. This reads like a post off FR, except all the words are spelled correctly.

This week's editorials at Faux are next week's historical record. Orwell would be amazed.

For all I know, the person that wrote this POS is an AQ operative. If you were Al Qaeda, wouldn't you be working overtime to keep this administration in power?

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

64. Title is spelled wrong ("worse" instead of "worst")

On Edit: NM you meant the Fox editorial hit piece.

[Erika]

65. Very wise post

Faux Bushco uses terra terra terra. Kind of like the radical islamists.

[babylonsister]

68. Oh, yes. I think Al Qaeda and this admin could be in cahoots.

They fit the mold, and it's worked for them both/all.

[babylonsister]

66. Why are you posting faux news rants? Not what I want to see here,

especially after seeing Clinton yesterday, and Olbermann and Stewart tonight. Those are the words I want to see, absorb, and spread!

[young_at_heart]

67. How can "Fox News" get away with its' title?

If people truly think this is "news" then our poor country is sinking fast!

[dave123williams]

136. When Al Franken won, after Fox sued him for copyright infingement....

Well, I'll just let you read it for yourself:

"FOX News sought damages from Franken, claiming in its lawsuit that the book's subtitle violated its alleged trademark rights in the phrase "Fair and Balanced". The lawsuit was dismissed, and the attempt backfired on FOX News in that it provided Franken with free publicity just as the book was launched. "The book was originally scheduled to be released Sept. 22 but made available Aug. 21," according to its publisher. "We sped up the release because of tremendous demand for the book, generated by recent events."

In the lawsuit, Fox described Franken as "intoxicated or deranged" as well as "shrill and unstable." In response, Franken joked that he had trademarked the word "funny", and that Fox had infringed his intellectual property rights by characterizing him as "unfunny." The publicity resulting from the lawsuit propelled Franken's as-of-then-unreleased book to the #1 sales position on Amazon.com's best-seller list.

On August 22, 2003, U.S. District Judge Denny Chin denied Fox's request for an injunction to block the publication of Franken's book, characterizing the network's claim as "wholly without merit, both factually and legally." Three days later, Fox filed papers to drop its lawsuit.

Franken, and others, claim Fox's lawsuit was brought at its commentator Bill O'Reilly's insistence, a claim denied by O'Reilly. O'Reilly told NPR presenter Terry Gross that he had considered bringing a separate suit against Franken for defamation, but given O'Reilly's success and fame, concluded that proving actual damages resulting from the Franken book would be too difficult. Following the lawsuit's dismissal, a Fox spokeswoman stated, "It's time to return Al Franken to the obscurity that he's normally accustomed to." Franken, in turn, suggested that the Judge had unwittingly supplied Fox with a more defensible trademark: "Wholly Without Merit"


(from wikipedia.org)

[liberaltrucker]

69. Ya know, I'm ALMOST to the point of calling for...

Arm** Revol*****. But let's see what happens Nov 6.
Mods, I completely understand if you delete. I, nay, WE
are extremely pissed.

[babylonsister]

70. Don't be. What if this was a hit piece to make Clinton look bad?

Who's manipulating the media?
Today was a GREAT day for Dems, but sucked for soldiers. :-(

[Downtown Hound]

71. It's an opinion piece

You can't sue over an opinion piece. The difference between an opinion piece and Fox News' regular reporting is only razor thin though. It's usually masked by clever wording and maybe throwing in the counter argument of "the other side" usually a conservative, centrist Democrat or an out and out loony leftist to paint the entire left in a negative light. But this piece is clearly labeled opinion, and as such, no legal action has a chance in hell against it.

[Marie26]

72. And they paired it with another opinion piece:

"The Path to Sept. 11 - The ABC Sept. 11 miniseries on events leading up to the terrorist attacks gave Americans a well-crafted dramatic interpretation."

But there's no coordinated effort here. :rofl: Why would Clinton possibly think the interview & the 9/11 movie were part of a coordinated campaign?

[pa28]

73. It's the right wing clown car.

Just when you think you've seen them all another one crawls out to pander his act for the mouth-breathing Republicans scattered around in the stands.

[sakabatou]

74. SOB! That's a complete lie!

[threadkillaz]

75. Ronald A Cass wrote that?

The one who co-authors with Ken Starr? dunno.

KENNETH W. STARR AND RONALD A. CASS
Alito's sticky thicket
By Kenneth W. Starr and Ronald A. Cass | December 11, 2005
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/12/11/alitos_sticky_thicket/

[texasleo]

79. "unpossible!"

[Jack Rabbit]

76. There is no pavda in Izvestia and there is no izvestia in Pravda

Or even a privatized Pravda.

[B Calm]

80. They still can't get over the fact 9-11 happened on Republican watch!

So they try to rewrite history, just like they did for Ronald Reagan..

[Perky]

81. Eh....its an opinion piece...(however stupid) and he is a public figure

People are entittled to say what they believe and publiuc figures can't sue.

[MelissaB]

82. I can't believe people still use Fox and news in the same breath.

I also can't believe that I was surprised at this.

[BlueEyedSon]

84. All lies, all the time... nt

[Shipwack]

85. To start with..."anti-factual"? Is that even a word?

What's next? Anti-truthiness?

[BootinUp]

86. Talk about a hit job.

That was written by a trained dumbass freeper.

[LSK]

88. WAG. THE. DOG.

Let those mother fuckers have it.

[e-mail]

[Dora]

89. He said it: "Lies now should not go unanswered.: n/t

[mapatriot]

90. What did you expect?

ANYBODY who watched that exchange, from beginning to end, came away KNOWING that Clinton made a fool out of little Wallace, the mini-me of faux journalism. But we can't possibly be surprised that FAUX non-news would post an opinion piece on their website that is critical of Clinton. What did you expect?? The folks at FAUX loved the results of the smack down so much that they threatened to sue You Tube.com if they didn't take clips off their site.

So we'll hear alot of gnashing of teeth and hissing from O'Reilly and Hannity, spastic indignation from Coulter and Beck and all kinds of "did not"'s from the administration (first was from Rice.) But in the end, they know and we know that Clinton looked GREAT. Take it to the bank.

[Jade Fox]

91. On a positive note....

clearly they are scared to death of Clinton. Clinton is still very popular, and his Fox butt-kicking is having an impact.

[DUyellow]

92. Google

It was on Google’s main news page last night. Since when has editorials become news? I have never seen Keith up there.

[file83]

119. Good question, and...

Welcome to the DU! :hi:

[lumpy]

94. FOX is pissed because Clinton called them out for

their ultra-biased, dirty trick's, unfair & unbalanced support of Bushco.

[BlueJackal]

95. Guess Murdoch's going to milk this for all its worth nt

[BluePatriot]

96. *blink blink*

"Speaking to Chris Wallace on FOX News Sunday, Clinton made a bevy of startlingly anti-factual remarks. He announced, for instance, that conservatives had criticized him for obsessing about bin Laden during his presidency -- rather than the truth that he was roundly condemned for doing next to nothing about this serious threat to American security..."

what. the. hell.

Arrrrrgh freaking 1984 wanna-be morons....

Someone send this to KO to rip to shreads, please....

[Seabiscuit]

97. I sent an excoriating e-mail to Mr. Cass yesterday about this.

[Mad_Dem_X]

98. Faux News are Nazi B@stards

I can't wait to witness their downfall, which I hope and pray will be soon.

[Liberal Dose]

100. I just sent an email to Ronald Cass, and asked how much the WH paid him to

write this Op-Ed hit piece. I'd really like to know the price on throwing all journalitic integrity out the window. [e-mail] :mad:

[huskerlaw]

101. hahahaha...shocking

Faux News is slandering Clinton instead of actually responding to his charges? No way!

Please. Those assholes wouldn't know a lie from the truth if it smacked them in the face.

The good news is that the only ones listening to them anymore are the hopeless Kool-Aid drinkers who are now actively seeking out misinformation that fits into their existing schemas.

To everyone else this looks like exactly what it is. A desperate attempt to pass the buck. Thankfully that's just not working as well as it used to anymore.

[alteredstate]

102. Ugh

kicked

[Rocknrule]

103. Sounds like Rita Skeeter got a job at Fox News

[MethuenProgressive]

104. I curse Ronald Cass, may his daughters be drafted to serve in Iraq

or Iran...

[Rocknrule]

107. How long before they try to claim 9/11 happened under Clinton's watch?

[SeanQ]

109. The scary thing is

I not only no longer think that it is impossible they could try, but I wouldn't be suprised. After all, that is what they are effectively trying to do now. Push responsibility for 9/11 on Clinton - as if Bush had only just been elected days before the attack, and could do nothing more than respond and clean up Clintons mess. :mad:

[civildisoBDence]

108. C'mon, FoxNews, we all remember the "wag the dog" attacks after

Clinton dropped those bombs.

Shameless, just shameless.

[Goblinmonger]

111. Hey, Oceania is at war with Eurasia.

Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia. Don't you know anything.

The most hilarious irony is the "We report. You decide." motto at the top of the page. Apparently the motto is "We report. You decide. Except about Clinton, because we all know he is a lying liar."

[stella]

112. THE BEST THING YOU CAN DO

Is to stop watching Fox news period. I never have Fox news on not even for a second.

[demo dutch]

113. Yeah and they claim to be fair and balanced! Right!

[krkaufman]

114. It's an editorial from their "opinions" page ...

... so I'm not surprised to see such a degree of propaganda. (Well, maybe a little surprised. I didn't think Right Wingers had that much imagination.)

Their main page, however, IS giving Bush's spin on the NIE report their top headline, and *do* have the deceitful caption under the Clinton video link on the right column: "President Clinton gets defensive."


p.s. Ok, Fox News does get one atta-boy. I love their caption next to a Paris Hilton pic at the bottom of the page: "Not So Hot: Paris Hilton, like, charged with misdemeanor driving under the influence."

[dback]

115. ...aaaaaaand here's my response to them

Dear Editor:

I have included a web link to a timeline that details the Clinton administration’s anti-terrorism efforts, compared to the Bush administration’s. Please feel free to compare and contrast them accordingly.

http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/7/30/154040/162

Also, please have Mr. Cass stay on topic when he is frothing at the mouth. If his beef is with the Clinton administration—or with the man himself—he should stick with it, instead of taking irrelevant swipes at the past (JFK, Camelot) or the future (Hillary Clinton’s theoretical run for president) loaded with cheap shots.

In fact, this entire piece is little more than character assassination, with few facts to back it up. “Startlingly anti-factual remarks,” indeed.

Almost 2/3 of Americans in the latest CNN polls think that the Clinton administration did more to combat terrorism than the Bush administration, and Clinton’s approval ratings remain around 60%--almost 20 points higher than Bush’s. Much as these numbers—as well as the number of U.S. soldiers and Iraqi civilians dead on George Bush’s watch--must stick in Mr. Cass’ craw, they don’t lie.

Flagrantly biased “reporters,” however, do.

Dean Backus

[file83]

120. Sound effects for that kung-fu chop:

That's gotta hurt! :thumbsup: Way 2 go.

[Bjorn Against]

117. Notice how the columnist completely ignores Bush's first eight monthes

Sure he mentions those monthes in passing, but he NEVER tells us anything that Bush did during those eight monthes. He does tell us some things Clinton did during his time in office, although he dismisses them as not being enough. Well what would have been enough? How does he know Clinton had a chance to get bin Laden and failed to act? I don't think he has access to high level intellegence other than the kind Karl Rove selectively leaks to him. He blames Clinton for not getting bin Laden but he NEVER mentions the fact that Bush did not get bin Laden either, and he certainly does not mention the fact that it was the Reagan administration that trained bin Laden to fight against the Soviets.

There are so many factual errors in this piece that FOX News is really discrediting themselves by posting it on their website. Even opinion pieces need to stick to the facts, and it is every bit as journalistically dishonest to print lies on the editorial page as it is to print lies in the actual news itself.

[file83]

118. "anti-factual" -- WTF?

What kind of newspeak is that?

[Guaranteed]

121. ROFL! And to think Clinton said that this was a conservative hit job!

Ohhhhh, how wrong he was! :rofl:

[agincourt]

122. I sent them a not very nice email,

Basically telling them what a bad,bad man, Bill Clinton was for not keeping W's ass wiped for 8 years after leaving office.

[dave123williams]

124. I responded...like so:

Interesting editorial. So, in 1998 when Clinton threw American might in
the form of cruise missles at Bin Laden, (love how you make it sound like
50 tomohawk cruise missles coming over the horizon isn't a big deal) and
your crowd cried 'wag the dog'...that was somehow supporting the country?
Or the President in a time of war? Or the military?

Interesting also that you completely gloss over the fact that this
President and his cadre of cold-warriors discounted the threat in their
first eight months in office, leaving us *wide open* to attack. Clinton
warned you, and you still did NOTHING. Not one meeting on terrorism,
but plenty of sabre rattling with China, as I recall.

Your arguments are pretty transparent, and your credibility has pretty
much evaporated.

Keep writing these editorials; they're hilarious.

Keep clinging to your bankrupt ideology and your precious, fake
Connecticut cowboy. Keep trumpeting the most qualifiably incompetent,
bloodthirsty, profiteering and corrupt administration in the history of
this Country.

And by all means keep calling the 60% of Americans that are against this
war unpatriotic.

Keep telling us we have to be afraid, and reap the whirlwind in November.

Keep telling yourselves that the Emperor really does have clothes.

Here's a clue: It's just not selling anymore. Check your ratings.

Keep crying wolf; what happens at the end of that story again?

It helps us at the polls, because people are seeing *right* through your
well-polished brand of fearmongering baloney, see?

I can't *wait* for the subpoenas to start flying.

[kwolf68]

126. Bill Clinton protested in the Soviet Union?

Is that true? I thought he did that in England.

[dave123williams]

130. That actually is true, I believe. But, who cares?

For people who spend so much time crowing about freedom and democracy, they sure don't seem to like it very much. Clinton wasn't alone in thinking Vietnam was fucking stupid.

[Imagevision]

127. Let's get Condi's comments on 9-11 report refutes claims Bush did as much

as Clinton, 9-11 Commission Report clearly states Bush administration response to terror problems was "scant" at best! -- Condi is a bit of a wind-bag on her comment against Clinton.

[Avalux]

128. EVERYONE!! This is an editorial; a political opinion.

Ronald Cass is hardly worth the outrage, he writes for the National Review, is a rabid Bush supporter and hates liberals. I could care less what he writes - it's on FOX, and anyone who reads it and cares are too far gone anyway.

I am embarrassed this post has 59 recommendations.

[ShortnFiery]

131. You make sense.

National Review :thumbsdown:

[emdee]

132. Remember when Republicans didn't want to play "The Blame Game"?

I think they've changed their minds!
Haha
emdee

[grannylib]

133. OMG...what a load of crap, but then what else does Fox Fraudcasting

ever put out but crap??
What can you expect from a network that airs Hannity and More Hannity, O'Lielly et al?

Shameless fucking whores and propagandists for the illegitimate, imbecilic weenie in the WH and his handlers/minions.

I'm gonna e-mail them anyhow, like it'll do any freakin' good.

[Alizaryn]

134. Yikes

I hope he replies to that garbage

[cap]

137. Cass is a right wing hit man...

google him for grins and giggles... He's an attorney with no experience in foreign affairs.
Ask Fox why they are publishing HIS opinion when he has no experience whatsoever to opine on the matter... Sheesh... arent the usual neocons good enough? Why not Feith? Oh yeah... they really dont want the spot light shown on their guys now do they... because we'd be asking THEM questions like what the hell were they doing about Bin Ladin?


He thought Harriet Miers was competent...

Part of the RW cabal... doesnt want monopolies to be regulated, and a whole host of right wing garbage.

[Red Right and BLUE]

138. One question.

It's Fauz Snooze.

Who gives a shit?

Okay two.

Why the shock?

Okay three.

"It makes Chris Wallace look like Keith Olbermann."

Are you fucking kidding me? :puke: