Why such hate from fundies and neocons against Hillary Clinton?

[theHandpuppet]

Honestly, I've never understood it. She wouldn't be my choice for a Dem presidential candidate (I disagree with her on too many issues) but the vitriol aimed her way from fundies and neocons goes back to when she was First Lady. Why such irrational hatred of Hillary? On what is it based? Why in the world would a so-called "man of God" compare her to Lucifer?

I remember when Bill Clinton was in office it was common to see Hillary-hating bumper stickers and signs. She was a favorite target of RW loudmouths on radio and TV, even subjected to public trashing by high-profile Republican lawmakers. During election years I even heard some voters claim they weren't going to vote for Dems because they hated Hillary Clinton. What sense did that make?

Just what horrible crimes has Hillary Clinton committed to be measured against their righteous yardstick? She's an intelligent, competent, educated woman who's worked hard to achieve her goals. She's been a loyal wife (under very trying circumstances) and raised a wonderful daughter. Unlike Herr Bush, she was (is) a regular churchgoer, isn't addicted to drugs and alcohol, and has used her political influence to support the rights of women, the poor, the disabled and minorities -- which I would expect from any true follower of J.C. So why do fundies compare her to Lucifer and not the drug-addled, lying hypocrite responsible for the deaths of untold thousands, a man who robs from the poor to give to the rich, who dispenses not loaves and fishes but bombs and torture? In the (nearly) six years Bush has been in office -- with a GOP-led House and Senate at his disposal -- just what has he accomplished? Unending war and and a national debt the likes of which this country has never seen? What else? But RW fundies pray to his image while comparing Hillary Clinton to Lucifer?

Maybe someone here can explain this bizarre hatred to me because I just don't get it. I really don't.

[HereSince1628]

1. She was one of the lawyers serving the impeachment of Nixon.

I suspect THAT is enough to warrant unlimited attacks.


On edit: I mean that she worked for the committee that impeached Nixon, not that she served the papers.

[theHandpuppet]

10. I really don't think that's it.

I'll bet you that 90% of the American people have no idea she was in any way involved with the Nixon impeachment.

No, this hatred is grassroots and when Hillary-haters are asked to explain the basis for their vitriol, they really can't. They just hate. It's totally irrational.

[HereSince1628]

17. Well, sure, the VolkzGOP follows the lead of its unterfeuhers

Who very well know it.

[wickerwoman]

2. She's an uppity woman who can't cook.

They hate her because she has opinions and education and exposes what small, shrivelled, limp brains they have.

[LostinVA]

7. And because she kept her maiden name n/t

[riona]

3. Perhaps her work on healthcare.

Seems to me that's when they latched on. It worked so well that they continued.

[Yupster]

36. I think you're right

I think the complaint was that she was given power that she didn't have any right to.

While she talked about not being an old-fashioned wife, but being a woman of substance, she got her power the old fashioned way -- by having it given to her by her husband.

I think this was the basic seed of the hatred.

For myself, I'm pretty sure she will waltz to the nomination, and I'll be happy to vote for her.

[Gman]

4. They talk about us hating Bush

what we say and do is child's play compared to the way they treat the Big Dog and Hillary to this day.

[JerseygirlCT]

5. I'm with you -- I don't get it.

But the closest may be in your post:

"She's an intelligent, competent, educated woman who's worked hard to achieve her goals. She's been a loyal wife (under very trying circumstances) and raised a wonderful daughter. Unlike Herr Bush, she was (is) a regular churchgoer, isn't addicted to drugs and alcohol, and has used her political influence to support the rights of women, the poor, the disabled and minorities -- which I would expect from any true follower of J.C. "

Perhaps it's the shame they feel in comparison? That and fear of strong women who don't follow their marching orders?

[LostinVA]

9. BINGO!!!

[theHandpuppet]

14. But why the hatred from RW women?

Why do they fear and despise Hillary Clinton, especially RW women in positions of power and influence?

[zanne]

28. The slave mentality.

There are women in the right wing, who, for purposes other than religion or conscience, object to women working outside the home and even women using contraception. As long as their own lives are going swimmingly, they will try to deny women of their rights.

[Hubert Flottz]

6. "Hate Thy Neighbor?"

God gets mixed up too sometimes, I guess!

[EST]

8. The drivel brained rushbots have been trained to hate

by years and years--almost two decades now--of daily hashing ani bashing by their trainer. Their need for a daily hate brace is palpable: the Limpbowel jones is full of teeth.
Their hate is mindless. If questioned, they regurgitate talking points with absolutely no thought, no self-examination. Put in four bits, push a button, out comes mindless hatred. Clinton hating is a favorite brand.

[mdmc]

11. Her husband bested them at every turn ... made them look foolish

And he can do it again, through Hillary Clinton.

[baldguy]

12. Politics. The American Taliban want more & more power.

And they will do everything to destroy people who stand in their way.

[acmavm]

13. She is the stereotype of what it would be like for women if the

equal rights amendment had been ratified.

Men are afraid and the 'stand by your man' women are threatened.

[theHandpuppet]

15. But isn't she the ultimate "stand by your man" woman?

She stood by her husband through the most trying of times and has raised a lovely, intelligent and responsible daughter. What's their real excuse?

[acmavm]

23. That's true. Except I have a feeling a deal was cut there. Of

course I have a suspicious mind and who knows?

[cynatnite]

16. She's a strong smart independent woman...

That's why they hate her.

I loved it when she said:

"I'm not sitting here as some little woman standing by my man like Tammy Wynette."

From that day on she had my respect and still does despite my disagreement with her on some issues.

Always smile when you remind a RWer that Tammy Wynette performed at a Clinton fundraiser.

[zbdent]

18. Simple - she's a Dem

If she was a Repuke, they'd be singing her praises unto Heaven ... and pointing out how conservative she was, and praising her work on the Wal-Mart board of directors ... (that last smear, I'm not sure which they're trying to smear ... Hillary or Wal-Mart ...)

[madokie]

19. I ask the same of some DUers

one of my first lessons here was to never mention Hillary unless it would be in a lesser light. wtf over :shrug:

[pnwmom]

26. Me, too.

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

20. She's the Clagina

...to Bill's Clenis.

I joke, but seriously, they are obsessed with the nether bits of these two leaders. They envy the Clenis and they are terrified of the Clagina. Seriously.

[liberaldemocrat7]

21. Fundies sh*t in their undies

Fundies shit in their undies

when someone actually does jesus' work

They soil them brown

when the poor get helped by DC town

Fundies shit in their undies

when liberals violate fundies law

that government shouldn't help the poor

Don't look on the surface for the source

of fundies hate

just look underneath

and realize that fundies have crapped out

what they previously ate.

[lectrobyte]

22. They got that whole "women subservient to men" thing going. A

woman leader to them is like a big ol' crack in the middle of their world view.

[mtnsnake]

24. Hillary is a brilliant LADY, a perceived LIBERAL, and thus a major threat

to every neocon in this country.

[leesa]

25. Because the corporate media has conditioned them to respond that way

There is no real reason. They don't KNOW why. Falwell just told them yesterday she was worse than Lucifer. Why? No reason given. The corporate media long ago chose her as our candidate as their alternative if their preferred party isn't popular. It creates street theatre and perpetuates the illusion that there is a choice being made.

[pnwmom]

27. They hate her because they feel threatened by her. The bigger question

is: why do so many DU'ers hate her?

[liberaldemocrat7]

29. because she panders to those thugs.

She supported the flag amendment.

The Republicans use the flag to divert attention from their

support for cheap labor

support for unsafe working conditions

support for unsafe products

support for religious christofascist oppression.

[pnwmom]

35. Just because Republicans misuse the flag

doesn't mean it's wrong for Hillary to support the flag amendment.

Hillary's overall record makes her one of the most progressive people in the Senate. Nothing like the Rethugs. They're right when they accuse her of being liberal. Compare to the average Republican, she IS very liberal. According to Progressive Punch, her voting record on Progressive Issues was a 91%. The large majority of Republican Senators was 15% or lower.

www.progressivepunch.com

[Marie26]

30. Feminist backlash

Just IMHO.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

31. I like Hillary less and less as time goes on, but the hatred the wingnuts

have is definitely over the top and always has been.

I trace it to insecure, pseudo-masculine, dimwitted men being intimidated by an intelligent and accomplished woman.

It's the same kind of mentality that led the wingnuts of Oregon to launch THREE successive recall petitions against Governor Barbara Roberts in the early 1990s.

I was mystified by these petitions, because while Roberts was not one of the greatest governors I'd ever know, there was nothing offensive about her, either, so when I saw three men gathering signatures in a shopping center, I asked them quite seriously what their reasons were.

"We're angry about the new restrictions on logging."
"That's a federal policy," I said.
"Well, then there are the cost overruns on the remodeling of the state capitol."
"That project was started and mostly completed under the previous governor."
"Then there's the high unemployment rate."
"That's the national economy."
They were silent.
"You know what I think?" I said. "I think you don't like Barbara Roberts because you don't like women in positions of authority."
As I turned and walked away, one of the men called out, "Feminazi!"

[Lydia Leftcoast]

32. I like Hillary less and less as time goes on, but the hatred the wingnuts

have is definitely over the top and always has been.

I trace it to insecure, pseudo-masculine, dimwitted men being intimidated by an intelligent and accomplished woman.

It's the same kind of mentality that led the wingnuts of Oregon to launch THREE successive recall petitions against Governor Barbara Roberts in the early 1990s.

I was mystified by these petitions, because while Roberts was not one of the greatest governors I'd ever know, there was nothing offensive about her, either, so when I saw three men gathering signatures in a shopping center, I asked them quite seriously what their reasons were.

"We're angry about the new restrictions on logging."
"That's a federal policy," I said.
"Well, then there are the cost overruns on the remodeling of the state capitol."
"That project was started and mostly completed under the previous governor."
"Then there's the high unemployment rate."
"That's the national economy."
They were silent.
"You know what I think?" I said. "I think you don't like Barbara Roberts because you don't like women in positions of authority."
As I turned and walked away, one of the men called out, "Feminazi!"

[in_cog_ni_to]

33. She didn't stay home and bake cooikies..remember that quote from her

during the first campaign? It ROYALLY pissed off the bow to the husband, do as husband says, barefoot and pregnant RW believers. She's too strong, self assured, intelligent and powerful for the sheeple. The RW men like to dominate their women and the RW women like to be dominated by them.

"Feminism is the radical notion that women are people"

RWers see women as second class citizens.

That's why they HATE Hillary.

[triguy46]

34. I think there is an as yet undefined factor...

We all assume its because she's a: woman, liberal, educated, intelligent, democrat, and so on, but it just seems that the extreme hatred that so many of her surpasses the equation that we have developed. Is there some undefined quality that the fundies see that we don't, kind of like the whistles that only dogs hear? There have been other women, albeit, not first lady, who have had these qualities, but only generated run of the mill kind of fundie hatred and scorn. These folks just go ape shit whenever she is mentioned.