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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 08:52 PM
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So, I think I changed my mind about the Torture Bill...
Maybe we should let it get to a vote. That way, we have a self-selecting list of who to indict for this subversive bill.

Think of the campaign stick this would give us!

X voted for torture!

X voted to be able to imprison whomever they want whenever they want!

My fear is it would pass and then there's no election.

I guess maybe not, I'm still on the side of Filibuster.

-Hoot
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 08:54 PM
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1. torture could be useful
when dems take back congress...
oh and leave the wiretapping too
that's handy stuff

:evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 08:54 PM
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2. No it would have a better chance of never passing if it was filibustered
or put off until after elections, assuming

1) Dems win majorities

2) Dems do not help vote this in.

I do not have great certainty about any of this, but I think the country certainly stands a better chance on this without one party rule.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 09:05 PM
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4. How sad: "I do not have great certainty about any of this"
You're right to doubt, of course. The Democrats, if not vigorously lobbied, can and well may cave on this issue. Just another small measure of how far we've fallen. I hope our grand children have enough free access to information to know they need to forgive us for allowing this shit to be smeared on our Constitution.
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 08:55 PM
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3. see post here
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femmedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 09:17 PM
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5. No matter how much I want the Dems to win the midterms
I wouldn't allow anyone to be waterboarded in the name of political strategy.

And I know you wouldn't, either, Hootie.

Call your Senators one more time. Tell them again that voting no isn't enough. Tell them to filibuster. And if there's not enough support to sustain a filibuster, tell them to place a secret hold.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 09:34 PM
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6. You've been peeking at my journal, now haven't you? n/t
:hi:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 09:40 PM
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7. Sadly, some would consider it a badge of honor. A Sick Nation.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 09:56 PM
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8. ((((((hoot))))))
You're not alone.

Keep fighting!!!




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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 10:34 PM
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9. {({({(Solly)})})}
Thanks hun!

-Hoot
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