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MoseyWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 11:30 PM
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The Older People Are Suspicious Looking
After all, they have different colored hair and look all wrinkly.

They are not like us. They are not like the people I know.

I think there is something wrong with them. I think they are trying to hurt us. I think we should get rid of them.

The Younger People are Suspicious Looking

After all, they have different colored hair, and don't have wrinkles.

I think there is something wrong with them. I think they are trying to hurt us. I think we should get rid of them.

The Children Are Suspicious Looking

After all, they have different colored hair (if any at all) and look pudgy.

They are not like us. They are not like the people I know.

I think there is something wrong with them. I think they are going to hurt us. I think we should get rid of them.

The People are Suspicious Looking.

After all................
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 11:35 PM
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1. Rules for a TSA W employee
good analysis.
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 12:05 AM
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2. There are only two kinds of people in the world...
Me, and everybody else. And everybody else looks suspicious.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 12:23 AM
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3. I was telling a group of women about
an incident at the airport in Seattle where I witnessed a woman who had to be 90 having her shoes yanked off, then being hoisted up out of her wheelchair to be wanded. She was so frail, she couldn't stand, and it took two TSA goons to prop her up for the inspection. Poor old woman looked terrified. She had no idea what the hell was happening. Her daughter, who was also a senior citizen, was yanked out of line and treated to the bra feel-up treatment. Anyhow, I was describing this scene to this group of women, and one cut me off cold with "Well, they could have been terrorists. Anyone could be a terrorist, you know."

How does one respond to such paranoia? Suspicious of 90 year old hunched over women in wheelchairs? If that attitude is typical, we're fucked.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 12:46 AM
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4. are you serious about the 'bra feel up treatment'?
they're actually groping woman's breasts?

man, i'm not flying until a that creep is out of office...
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 08:20 AM
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6. They do it under the guise of searching for
a metal object. Unfortunately an underwire can set off the metal detector, and they use that as an excuse to feel women up. It's happened to me, too. I have 12 small pins in my ankle from an old surgery and depending on how sensitive the machine is, that can set it off. When it did set it off, I explained to the guy about the pins, showed him the scar, and invited him to wand the ankle. He had no interest in that. Called over a female tsa person and watched while she "examined" my bra - plain view of everybody. Your tax dollars at work.
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muesa Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 01:51 AM
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5. Began in 1966-68
Edited on Wed Sep-27-06 01:52 AM by muesa
  1. The breaking of the workplace "social contract" - the beginning of serious union decertification effort; first mass layoffs of white collar workers.
  2. The Nixonian "Southern Strategy"
  3. The Reagan attack on "liberal" higher education -- e.g., U.C. Berkeley.
  4. Both Health Care Costs and Education costs began to "seriously" out pace the Consumer Price Index.
  5. Productivity improved faster then wages.


The "American Dream" is over. Bushism was the coup d'grace.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 08:33 AM
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7. Yeah, gropefests
Let me tell you about every experience I have had flying since 9/11.

I am a dark haired brown eyed easily tan woman. My heritage is Scots, with a great great great grandmother who was pure Seneca. No one would figure that otherwise, my heritage is pure Scots, officers in the Revolutionary, senators, sheriffs, printers of the very first broadside of the Declaration of Independence, travelers on the Mayflower, and traced back to the Romans when they first came to the area now known as Scotland. That said, I suppose I could look foreign.

Every damn time I fly...EVERY time..I am pulled out of line, have to take my shoes off, have to have a woman agent come over and I am felt up head to toe pretty much in front of everyone. In stoic silence I stand, while all 100 pairs of eyes on every person in line, is signaling to me "thank GOD it is you being handled and not ME." My husband, bless his heart, has STEEL in his eyes, because they never pull out his light brown haired, blue eyed self, to do this to.

My carry on bags are spilled onto the ground, gone through and pawed. I have to take my camera out of its bag, open every slot. My purse is dumped into a box, and everything gone through.

Every time, every airport stop, every time.

I hate flying to this day. My husband won't even BET with me anymore as to whether I will or won't be searched. I will. It is inevitable that I lose my temper, and get the body cavity search..inevitable.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 08:41 AM
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8. I know what you've been through and it's humiliating.
As related above, I've been singled out because the pins in my ankle from an old injury set off the metal detector. What my ankle has to do with my chest is anybody's guess, but I'm quite confident these people get off on the abuse. There's no excuse for the treatment you've been subjected to. None.

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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 08:53 AM
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9. You know that, I know that and so does everyone in line watching
But..what if my hubby started complaining...what if I started complaining?

You and i both know where I would land. Same with you...a simple pass of the wand over your ankle, which I am sure has scars to go along with that, would suffice to show where your metal is at.

Me, I do not set off the alarms...I do EVERYTHING I can to NOT set off the detectors. I do not wear jewelry or shoes/bras with metal eyelets/underwire, nothing.

I get singled out WITHOUT setting anything off, except the small suspicious minds of the TSA agents who assume I could be foreign because my skin color is a tad darker ( I mean it, I can tan in SECONDS) and my eyes and hair are dark.

What is worse? Myself as I stand in line and watch someone get handled who is obviously of Middle Eastern descent, who I have spoken with in line, who I know is a US citizen, who once they get handled, gets led off for the body cavity search I know is also my destiny at some point.

I am my own nightmare as well....sad.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 09:38 AM
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11. My husband frequently travels for business with a
Edited on Wed Sep-27-06 09:44 AM by LibDemAlways
co-worker who looks like he might be from the Middle East. The man doesn't even wait to be pulled out of line. He asks the TSA guy where he should stand, and is always told to step out of line for the extensive search. Always.

As for the ankle, I show the people the scar and invite them to wand it, but they have no interest in that. The ankle becomes their pretext for the bra feel-up. It's disgusting.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 09:04 AM
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10. How does one respond to that? Forcefully, because people need to be
fucking awakened. Something like, "Bullshit, she's no fucking terrorist. Are you out of your fucking mind? Get real, bitch," should do fine.
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