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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 08:55 AM
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Drastic lowering of gas prices before election is a Conspiracy Theory.
That's what the talking head on cnn's 'minding your business' just said.

He was discussing the amazing low gas prices and how quickly they fell and said that any talk of the republicans deliberately bringing down gas prices to garner favor in the November elections is a silly conspiracy theory.

Is it?
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 08:58 AM
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1. it's a conspiracy all right..... n/t
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 08:58 AM
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2. Nope.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 08:59 AM
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3. answer in two parts
a) they are NOT low.

b) when someone calls something a 'conspiracy theory' these days, it means that there is something to it, IMO, as it is an obvious ploy to discredit ideas coming from those of us in the 'reality-based' community.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 09:00 AM
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4. it's a reality based theory. nt
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cspanlovr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 09:01 AM
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5. Yes, you'd have to be stark raving mad to think they would EVER
lie and manipulate. Right out of your mind. Bat shit crazy. Isn't that so? No right thinking individual would ever imagine such a thing. Heaven forbid!
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 09:03 AM
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6. I don't think Bush had anything DIRECTLY to do with it. Not at all.
Why would he need to? Anyone who doesn't think the oil industry depends upon Bush, and is thankful for their world-record profits, and wants to keep 'em coming and ward of "Excess Profits" taxes and/or new regulations...well, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you, right after I cut it up with a blow torch.

Of course the oil industry is using gas prices in an attempt to prop up their boy. It is far more foolish to think they WOULDN'T be. Any industry will do this...just look at the television "industry." They've got lots of goodies from BushCo, and they pay him back with kid gloves, because it is in their best interest to see the GOP retain power. Pure and simple. It doesn't mean Bush himself has to be the one setting the policy or sending out the orders.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 09:52 AM
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12. blood in the water, and the sharks (oil companies) smell it ...
they sense that the tide may be turning against the Republicans who have allowed the gasoline companies to gain record unfettered profits with no oversight (anybody remember that oil pipeline that was leaking in Alaska? Will that be shut down 11/8?), and that the government might actually have a hearing (or hearings) more substantial than "Hi, how ya doin'? You aren't manipulating prices, are you? No? Good. Gee, isn't it nice that you cannot be held to your statements, and that you weren't forced to swear before God that you're telling the truth?"
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 09:04 AM
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7. Not according to the people I conversed with last night
at my local gas station. I walked into the door and behind the counter was the guy I always have political discussions with when he is there. He saw me and said "So, how's that republican gas price dump working out for them?" I had to laugh right out loud as everyone inside responded with laughter as well. We continued our discussion, out loud, when the others inside joined in while they picked up their bread and milk. All stated that they didn't vote for blivet** and are anticipating the rise in prices as soon as the midterms are over. They are not getting fooled at all by this ploy. Oh, they are taking advantage and buying the gas that they need, but they are not anticipating that it will remain as such once the elections are over.

We then turned to heating oil prices which are falling right now too (5% this week alone). Speculation was that Chavez has them concerned with his offer of discount heating fuel and they are realigning their prices to keep Chavez from getting any good press for his offer.

All agreed that there had been NO CHANGE to the demand or supply to warrant such a quick decline in prices. They are not falling for it at all.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 09:06 AM
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8. our--I mean, bush's friends, the Saudis control the spigot
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 10:22 AM
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13. At what levels have the demand and supply remained?
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 10:07 PM
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19. I think the general thought was
still fairly high here in the land of bedroom communities and commuters with little or no public transportation as an alternative.

As for heating oil, it is still used on a massive scale here in NE. Demand has not gone down for that either.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 09:09 AM
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9. What I want to know is -- How is $2.49 a gallon "low?"
Edited on Wed Sep-27-06 09:10 AM by Armstead
Gas prices are still at a level that would have seemed outrageous earlier this year.

That's the real meme. That gas prices are now low. They've just dipped to the less outrageous level than theyt were at the peak of the recent gouging binge.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 09:14 AM
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10. 'gas prices are falling & all I hear is crickets from the other side"
republican bitch virginia foxx just said that, and, she said why aren't the democrats applauding our president for bringing gas prices down?
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 09:23 AM
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11. It's always just "here, NOW" for them. Instant gratification rules!
They never "discuss" what we all know will happen on the day after the mid-terms: gas prices will swing back up, and to record levels (that's when Darth&Co will fullfil their promise to the energy-sector CEOs, and send what they consider "their" AF cannon-fodder to bomb Iran...).

Idiot$: bomb first, cry later... :grr:

They never "discuss" about the... consequences!
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freedom_please Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 10:27 AM
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14. Here's proof of gas prices and election cycles...
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 10:36 AM
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15. Bush and Cheney's oil industry buddies made billions in profits. Payback
is a common sense move. Gas prices are still too high, btw.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 07:22 PM
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16. No No, prices are falling, drastically, really, you gotta understand
bush always says, 'the merken people gotta understand', I've heard people actually say that prices are lower than ever because of the republicans.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 07:23 PM
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17. then RELEASE the 2001 Energy meetings minutes
Along with footage of a plane crashing into the Pentagon.

NOTHING TO HIDE? PROVE IT!
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 07:33 PM
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18. And that the fact that Bush and Bandar are close personal
buddies is just a mirage, right?

And there were reports that he was promised low prices before the last election, too.

http://www.forbes.com/home/newswire/2004/04/18/rtr1335645.html
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 10:08 PM
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20. It's no theory...
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 10:23 PM
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21. Funny, on CNN last month a guy said the exact opposite
The money dude on CNN was making fun of the fact prices would most certainly go up again after the election.
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freedom_please Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 12:18 AM
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22. I agree about gas prices...
Yes, I'm sure the prices will go up after the election, but not before.
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