Do you all truly understand what the ABC network is about?

[burythehatchet]

Let me explain. Of course the Path to 911 was a blatant piece of propoganda. This fictional film rightfull raised the hackles of all thinking people. But you should be aware that this was only one more in a series of right wing partisan acts in which ABC has ben engaged. A few examples that immediately come to mind:

• On Monday night, the football game at the New Orleans dome had Bush the less awful flip the coin to begin the game. While the crowd booed the ex-pres loudly, ESPN, an ABC/Disney company, played a canned soundtrack of a loudly cheering crowd.
  
  
• Previously on Monday Night Football, Rush Limbaugh was hired as a commentator, his tenure was short lived when he made racial slurs against Donovan McNabb.
  
  
• Monday night football also hired Dennis Miller. He too was canned; he was awful.
  
  
• The ABC networks have a deal to carry Pat Robertson's 700 Club on many of its cable channels. If you are a channel surfer you know that at any time of day you can see Pat on an ABC channel. Previously, when Pat has made outrageous statements (the State Department building ought to be blown up), ABC states that the contract with Pat says ABC can do nothing about the content of his bile.
  
  
• Nightline, which used to be a legitimate news program has been gutted and now is nothing more than a variation of any puffy newstainment shows.
  
  

Its important to recognize what ABC/Disney is all about. What can be done about it is the real issue. These people have an agenda!

[mtnester]

1. I was so sure what they were about, we stopped watching them 2 YEARS ago

and sent a letter to the owners of the local ABC affiliate (Sinclair...even worse) and to many of their advertisers, including local ones, as to why we won't watch (it was Mark Hymen kids) and why we won't buy their products/services as long as they continue advertising with them. We know of 3 locals companies that did stop, but they did not stop putting politcal (Repub) signs in their front yards of their companies....so we still do not shop them..put em at your house if you feel that strong about it...

We also do not watch the local Fox TV channel, as Sinclair also owns them (sister stations with the local ABC affiliate)...so no, we do not watch the Simpson's, et al.

All from a Neilson house too.

So yeah, we know exactly what they are.

[burythehatchet]

3. Very cool

As a huge sports fan, I will find it difficult to wean myself from ESPN, but it will be done. btw, must be cool to be a Nielson household.

[Donnachaidh]

2. Pat Robertson and his American Taliban Network are on here

in Georgia. They have time on the ABC *FAMILY* network.

[Touchdown]

4. Not to defend ABC, but a couple of things need clarifying.

When Disney bought the Family Channel from Robertson, it was stipulated in his contract that the MUST carry his 700 Club program, and that they would be in breach of contract unless they aired it at the time he stipulates. Whack-job or not, Robertson is a shrewd business man. Reports at the time the channel was bought, said that Disney wanted to dump the show, but contractually, they were circumscribed.

Personally, with Disney's vast resources, I'd make my own family channel, and let Robertson try to peddle his to someone else, but that's me.

I don't remember OxyRush on MNF. He was hired by ESPN for a sports talk show, and that's where he made the McNabb comment. Miller is also a commedian who used to be funny. His foray into political hackery is strictly post-9/11. I never liked him, but then I never liked Howard Cosell either.

[NNN0LHI]

15. Every contract has has wording to allow parties to cancel it

You think if Robertson got up every day and started insanely ranting against blacks and Jews that Disney would be forced to air it?

Of course not.

Don

[pooja]

5. Most of the tv shows on air are propaganda...

24... getting America to believe in toture. Its American. Personally, I caught a piece of one show and have never watched since. I thought it was vile and disgusting.

[Bluzmann57]

6. A few clarifications

I do not know for sure that the Monday Night Football from New Orleans was canned applause as I was not there.
Limbaugh was never on MNF, but was on ESPN's NFL pregame show. He officially was not fired, but one would think that ESPN pressured him to resign.
Robertson's 700 club is shown daily on the ABC Family network. ABC bought the CBN and as part of the deal, Robertson was allowed to keep his crap show on the air, but as far as I know, it's not on "regular" ABC.
Having said these things, I still do not like ABC/Disney because of the crap program they had on a couple of weeks ago, "The Path to 9/11", which a bunch of blatant lies. Yes, I do think ABC has an agenda and yes, I do think they need to be stopped. They need some legitimacy. How this will happen is unknown, but it should happen.

[burythehatchet]

7. Thanks for the clarification

I'm looking for the link to the canned applause story.

[burythehatchet]

8. here you go

http://www.rawstory.com/showoutarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailykos.com%2Fstoryonly%2F2006%2F9%2F26%2F8550%2F57285

[Bluzmann57]

10. Thanks

I read the article and to tell you the truth, I do remember hearing some boos during the coin toss. And at the time old bush was introduced, it did seem strange that the cheers were as loud as they appeared to be. As the author said, New Orleans people know better than anyone about the bush family's reaction to the Katrina victims. I bet that ESPN really wanted baby bush, but there is no way that they could drown out the boos, or guarantee his safety for that matter. So now we go back to your original question, that is what to do about the propaganda machine that is ABC? An all out boycott just won't happen, because of MNF as well as College Football. I mean my beloved Hawkeyes are going to upset the Buckeyes on Saturday night and I have every intention of watching it on ABC TV. Can't afford tix, scalpers are making a killing. The game is not on elsewhere, so ABC has to be it. But I don't watch any programming on ABC, such as "Desperate Housewives", "Lost", and whatever else they have on. Also will not watch ABC "news" as they have no credibility whatsoever.

[KoKo]

9. George Stephanopolis and Cokie Roberts plus George Will are enough

to see how biased ABC has been for a decade. Don't they own the History Channel wich many DU'ers has complained runs more war programming than anything else?

[zbdent]

11. I have to say, Dennis Miller was smart, well-spoken, and intelligent

but he had a tendency to speak at a level well above the IQ stations of most of the target audience (of which he now tries to court ...), which is probably why he failed miserable at MNF ... too smart for that crowd ...

Now, if he hadn't embraced evil, ...

[insane_cratic_gal]

12. Heres another piece of evidence

http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=2496755&page=1

<snip>

Sept. 27, 2006 — Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich believes former President Clinton's blow up during an interview on "Fox News Sunday" — and the escalating war of words over whether he or President Bush mishandled opportunities to catch or kill Osama bin Laden before the Sept. 11 attacks — was premeditated to shore up support for Democrats ahead of the November midterm elections.



When is someones opinion suddenly news?


I think ABC's propaganda piece has them of the offensive, why else would they air the opinion of Newt as factual? Then again these guys ran the path to 9/11 too

[City Lights]

13. They also canceled Politically Incorrect.

_ABC is dead to me.

[Subdivisions]

14. On the applause (or not) ...

Surely there's a DUer who was at the game Monday and can give us a first-hand account of whether or not the boos were unanimous.

[burythehatchet]

16. It certainly may not have been unanimous

but the Kos post regarding this incident is fairly convincing.