Would it be fair to 'OUT' Matt Drudge?

[romantico]

I have some friends who vacation every winter in Miami and they say that everyone in Miami know about Matt Drudge.Apparently he goes to all the gay clubs and bars and doesn't really seem to hide his homosexuality. Despite what I have thought over the years these people say that they hear he really is a pretty nice guy. They also said it would not be very difficult to 'out' him either. All you'd have to is take a picture of him in one of these clubs or bars.

Now, maybe I'm wrong but hasn't Drudge in the past said some anti gay comments? I'm not talking about who he associates with or even the party he belongs to and their stand on homosexuality. I'm talking about things he has said about homosexuals that are not very flattering.

I know this is a touchy subject and in my own opinion feel no matter what, outing someone is just mean. However, would it be appropiate/fair to do so? What would be gained? I'm just asking. By the way, this is all gossip and should be atken as that. However, if he really is a nice, sweet guy like they say why would he cater to those who are against him and his lifestyle?

[mtnester]

1. I think you kind of just did

I mean...just sayin

[NYCGirl]

2. Who'd care? NT

[zbdent]

38. Well, when you consider that Repukes make a living "exposing

lefty hypocrisy", exposing the right-wing hypocrites for what they are should (read: SHOULD) take them down a notch ...

[NYCGirl]

40. So would that neutralize him and make people stop reading his site? NT

[LSK]

3. another anti-gay gay republican???

No way!

:rofl:

[Sammy Pepys]

4. I think it's already pretty well-known...

...that he is gay.

[RebelOne]

5. It's pretty much common knowledge that he is gay.

So I don't think it would make much difference whether he was "outed."

[romantico]

11. Well,

I want to be clear about this. This is nothing but gossip. New York Post style heresay. These people aren't the type to spread rumors and I was surprised to hear them say this. They kept saying how sweet of a guy they hear he is. if true, even though I strongly disagree with him on most things, I'm not all that into making life rough for nice people. Then again, the part about him being nice and sweet could also be heresay.

[Avalux]

6. If you think outing someone is mean -

and you admit all this about him is gossip, why did you post this? :shrug:

[romantico]

17. I posted because

I'd like to know if its 'fair' to out only those who we disagree with. No different than gay politicans trying to pass anti gay laws who are themselves closeted gay men

[mcscajun]

24. If you're going to pose these kinds of questions, better to keep

them hypothetical and not name names, or you've already done that which you are asking about.

No point in asking then, is there?

[romantico]

27. I didn't mention any names

other than Drudge of course. I have also repeated that this is heresay, however, I do trust the source on this and don't think they would make it up.

[mcscajun]

29. One Name is all that was necessary in this case.

Just sayin'

[Avalux]

25. Personally, it's not fair - it's vindictive.

I don't like the idea of using someone's sexuality to attack them. If they're an idiot or a jerk, there are plenty of other ways to attack them.

[Captain Hilts]

7. No one would care. Kind of like Rosie O'Donnell. nt

[JuniperLea]

8. It makes me sad that being gay can be used in such a negative way

Although if he is saying bad things about gay people, he is pretty sick and twisted. Maybe his followers should know he is what he professes to hate.

So sad. Quite the dilemma.

[Subdivisions]

9. Who care's if he's gay or not? We've got more important things

to worry about besides the sexual orientation of Matt Drudge.

Sheesh!

[Subdivisions]

15. And another thing...

"OUTING" is out. The novelty has worn off. Mind your own business.

[Horse with no Name]

10. I really hate this kind of stuff

I don't care what anyone does in their own bedroom with consenting adults.
Democrat or Republican. How is it progressive to support Gay rights and then when we find someone who "isn't supposed to be gay", we point and laugh.
It just doesn't seem right.
Now, back to your regularly scheduled snicker session.

[aquart]

12. When did he go "in"?

[meegbear]

13. Telling people that Matt Drudge is gay ...

is like telling people that Bill Cosby is black.

[Catherine Vincent]

14. I don't think he's ever made any anti-gay comments.

[Donnachaidh]

16. he was outed way back when he was trying to be a gossip columnist

on usenet.

It's been close to a decade, but before he morphed into a RW flying monkey, he was trying to morph into
a mix of Hedda Hopper etc. He had the same tactics - taking information from the showbiz trades, and re-writing them to post them to the showbiz groups. He was basically laughed out of all of them. And of course the gaydar alarms were screaming even back then.

He's such a syncophant to anyone who throws him a bone, I wouldn't feel bad if he was outed. But seeing as he's a favorite of the lunatic right, I'd be sure you had some hard facts to back it up. And some personal body armor. :shrug:

[calico1]

18. I don't like the idea of using

someone's homosexuality against them. That is something Republicans like to do. It isn't his being gay that makes me dislike him, so why use that? Besides, I have a feeling most Republicans know Drudge is gay but as is the Republican way, they don't care as long as he serves them. It's only non Republican gays they have something against.

[Dirty Hippie]

19. Hopefully one day outing someone for being gay

will be like outing them for being a person.

[noonwitch]

20. I don't think it's right, but it is inevitable that someone like him would

be outed if he is gay, being a public figure and all.

[mcscajun]

21. Several bloggers have already beat you to it.

http://www.buzzflash.com/editorial/04/07/edi04050.html
http://www.konformist.com/drudgehomo/drudgehomoc.htm (includes links to The Smoking Gun)
http://www.rawstory.com/exclusives/womack/gay_republicans.htm

Yet Drudge denies it:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2092-1572089,00.html

[Bitwit1234]

22. If you are for it you are for it

If you are homosexual than that's what you are. It is hypocritical for a person to be homosexual and then slur and smear them. If you are a homosexual, there is nothing wrong with it. But what you should do if you don't want to admit it, is to shut the hell up about it.

[OregonBlue]

23. If he's an anti-gay gay, go ahead. Make him explain why he hates

his own sex.

[PATRICK]

26. David Brock

Now of "Media Matters" in his book clearly said that Drudge made a pass at him at some party. The media were so studiously ignoring the entire book exposing the conspiratorial Clinton-bashing cabal that it is no surprise even many here don't remember it. Drudge denied it at the time and of course in the bottomless media silence that was enough. Since the source is 100% more trustworthy than Drudge himself I think it has already been done. But there is one plane of reality for GOP insiders and another for the rest of the universe. It will be interesting to watch them flame out during their re-entry to planet Earth.

[eShirl]

28. I thought he was already out.

Also, did'nt some government or republican type "leak" to him a few years ago that someone was gay, hoping Drudge would smear them, and Drudge turned around and made the story about the leaker?

[mcscajun]

31. He's been the subject of many stories, yet he denies it.

I can't say I've spent much time worrying about his sexuality, in any case.

He's worthless on so many levels, it wouldn't surprise me if he was a self-loathing closeted hypocrite.

[chat_noir]

30. Drudge = mouthpiece of WH

Some were subject to legal investigations by the Justice Department (for example, the New York Times for reporting on Bush's warrantless domestic surveillance and the Washington Post for reporting on secret prisons for detainees). Some were even subjected to innuendo and invasions of private life (for example, after broadcasting a story on Army morale an ABC News reporter was outed as gay by right-wing gossip columnist Matt Drudge, who claimed he was given the information by a White House source).

http://edradil.blogspot.com/2006/09/how-bad-is-he.html

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

32. In one sense, it is already done (common knowledge). The other sense

would be to publish irrefutable evidence that even he could not deny. The difference is that this would cause him to lose support from the homophobic part of his right wing audience, which, I'd gather, is a substantial chunk.

I can't off the top of my head think of a single out of the closet prominent gay Republican. I don't really count Andrew Sullivan since he kind of tries to have it both ways much of the time.

[tenshi816]

33. Earlier this year,

the Sunday Times newspaper in the UK did a profile of Drudge in which he specifically stated that he wasn't gay and I remember thinking "who are you trying to convince, Matt, the readers or yourself?". I'll see if I can find the link.

Edited to say I found the link: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2092-1572089,00.html

Here's what Drudge had to say about his sexuality:

David Brock, a former right-wing journalist, claimed in his book Blinded by the Right that Drudge was gay, yet supported a party that these critics see as “homophobic”.

“So are you a gay right-wing Republican?” I ask.

“No, I’m not gay. I was nearly married a few years ago. And no, I’m not a right-wing Republican,” he replies without batting an eye. “I’m a conservative and want to pay less taxes. And I did vote Republican at the last election. But I’m more of a populist.”

Yeah, right.

[GeorgeGist]

34. It is fair to out hypocrites...

if you can prove it.

[Tyo]

35. Anyone who is gay might as well live openly

I mean it's a personal decision, but I think it's counterproductive to try to hide it or play games with it. How can you live like that? All it does is generate more gossip and it makes you look kind of silly actually. The exception to the "tell" rule would be kids who might have abusive parents.

[Nye Bevan]

36. OK. But please don't 'OUT' Elton John or Nathan Lane (nt)

[Tyo]

37. Isn't Elton next in line for the Throne? n/t

[zbdent]

39. Local "news" station decided to follow a Dem city councilman

they had "outed" as a "drunk driver"/alcoholic a while back ... got this guy into a lot of trouble ...

Now, on probation, the station must have a cameraman assigned to him to follow him to bars in Cleveland ... videotaped "him" having a few beers in a Cleveland bar ... trouble (for the station) was, you couldn't see what he was drinking, so they had no real proof other than him being in the nightclub ... and you could barely make out who he was ...

So, if there's that much effort to nail a Dem ... why shouldn't Drudge be dragged through they hypocrisy mud?