1500 species proven gay.

[KitSileya]

At the Museum of Natural History at the University of Oslo, Norway, they are opening an exhibition next month called 'Against the order of nature?' about homosexuality in the animal kingdom. According to the curator of the exhibition, zoologist Petter Bøckman, homosexuality is both natural and necessary in the life of many species. Among the more famous species that practice homosexual sex are dolphins, lions, grampuses (grampi?), and especially pygmy chimpanzees.

Even interspecies gay sex isn't unusual. Homosexual sex is a social phenomenon, and most usual among animals that have complex social structures. In some cases, the homosexual relationships are fleeting, but in many instances they last a lifetime, especially in species that mate for life like geese and ducks. In many species, like the pygmy chimpanzees, some individuals are exclusively homosexual throughout their lives.

As Dr. Bøckman says, while there are some species where there has never been observed instances of sex between same sex partners, it has never been proven conclusively that some species do not practice gay sex, except in species that do not have sex at all. He also describes how the scientists often hide instances of sex between same sex partners in the animal kingdom, either because they are prejudiced, or because they are afraid they'll be ridiculed. They also neglect to see gay sex for what it is, for example when they report any instance when male giraffes show interest in female giraffes as sex, but describe full anal intercourse with orgasm between two male giraffes as dominance, competition, or 'saying hello'.

The exhibition will open in the middle of October, and be open until next summer.
Information taken from an article in the University of Oslo's Apollon magazine (link to the Norwegian article) and translated and paraphrased by me.

[Fierce]

1. "Saying hello"!

Hee!

[KitSileya]

6. It is rather ridiculous,

but then, there are none so blind as those who would not see.....

[Vexatious Ape]

2. Good grief, gay giraffes.

Don't let them find out about this in Kansas.

[Ian David]

8. I've seen giraffes felating themselves to orgasm at Wild Safari in NJ.

That's the REAL reason Giraffes have long necks. Forget that crap about reaching leaves at the top of the trees. That's pointless. Who needs to eat when you can blow yourself?

[KitSileya]

17. And apparently, orangutangs are most inventive when it comes to self-love.

They make dildos out of wood and bark. Many animals masturbate when they don't have anything better to do, both males and females. Penguins, killer whales, deer and other primates do it, for example by rubbing themselves against rocks and roots. In other words, the myth that animals only have sex to reproduce is exactly that, a myth.

[Ian David]

19. There's a giant sea turtle that's been sexually assaulting human swimmers

I think it's in Florida somewhere.

[KitSileya]

47. There's this Norwegian saying about cooking...

you take what you have available, and apparently this turtle is of the same, eminently practical disposition.

LOLLOLLOL

[JuniperLea]

26. My sister had a pet rat that would do that too...

She was too young at the time to know what the deal was, but it cracked her up anyway:)

[mom cat]

28. I saw a great picture a few years ago of two male giraffes "necking"!

It was amazing. I will look for the photo. I think it was in Newsweek.

Actually, it was in Time:
The Gay Side of Nature
From the Magazine | Behavior
The Gay Side of Nature
Even as moralists and activists continue to debate homosexuality, many species casually practice it
By JEFFREY KLUGER
SUBSCRIBE TO TIMEPRINTE-MAILMORE BY AUTHOR
Posted Monday, Apr. 26, 1999
Giraffes do it, goats do it, birds and bonobos and dolphins do it. Humans beings--a lot of them anyway--like to do it too, but of all the planet's species, they're the only ones who are oppressed when they try.

What humans share with so many other animals, it now appears, is freewheeling homosexuality. For centuries opponents of gay rights have seen same-gender sex as a uniquely human phenomenon, one of the many ways our famously corruptible species flouts the laws of nature. But nature's morality, it seems, may be remarkably flexible, at least if the new book Biological Exuberance (St. Martin's Press), by linguist and cognitive scientist Bruce Bagemihl, is to be believed. According to Bagemihl, the animal kingdom is a more sexually complex place than most people know--one where couplings routinely take place not just between male-female pairs but also between male-male and female-female ones. What's more, same-sex partners don't meet merely for brief encounters, but may form long-term bonds, sometimes mating for years or even for life.

Bagemihl's ideas have caused a stir in the higher, human community, especially among scientists who find it simplistic to equate any animal behavior with human behavior. But Bagemihl stands behind the findings, arguing that if homosexuality comes naturally to other creatures, perhaps it's time to quit getting into such a lather over the fact that it comes naturally to humans too. "Animal sexuality is more complex than we imagined," says Bagemihl. "That diversity is part of human heritage."

For a love that long dared not speak its name, animal homosexuality is astonishingly common. Scouring zoological journals and conducting extensive interviews with scientists, Bagemihl found same-sex pairings documented in more than 450 different species. In a world teeming with more than 1 million species, that may not seem like much. Animals, however, can be surprisingly prim about when and under whose prying eye they engage in sexual activity; as few as 2,000 species have thus been observed closely enough to reveal their full range of coupling behavior. Within such a small sampling, 450 represents more than 20%.
More at:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,990813,00.html


The original article had the necking picture, but this version of the article does not have the picture.

[mom cat]

30. Not the photo yet, but check this out:

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The Gay Animal KingdomThe effeminate sheep & other problems with Darwinian sexual selection.

by Jonah Lehrer • Posted June 7, 2006 12:14 AM

From the JUN/JUL 2006 issue of Seed:


Credit: Catherine Ledner

Joan Roughgarden thinks Charles Darwin made a terrible mistake. Not about natural selection—she's no bible-toting creationist—but about his other great theory of evolution: sexual selection. According to Roughgarden, sexual selection can't explain the homosexuality that's been documented in over 450 different vertebrate species. This means that same-sex sexuality—long disparaged as a quirk of human culture—is a normal, and probably necessary, fact of life. By neglecting all those gay animals, she says, Darwin misunderstood the basic nature of heterosexuality.

Male big horn sheep live in what are often called "homosexual societies." They bond through genital licking and anal intercourse, which often ends in ejaculation. If a male sheep chooses to not have gay sex, it becomes a social outcast. Ironically, scientists call such straight-laced males "effeminate."

Giraffes have all-male orgies. So do bottlenose dolphins, killer whales, gray whales, and West Indian manatees. Japanese macaques, on the other hand, are ardent lesbians; the females enthusiastically mount each other. Bonobos, one of our closest primate relatives, are similar, except that their lesbian sexual encounters occur every two hours. Male bonobos engage in "penis fencing," which leads, surprisingly enough, to ejaculation. They also give each other genital massages.


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As this list of activities suggests, having homosexual sex is the biological equivalent of apple pie: Everybody likes it. At last count, over 450 different vertebrate species could be beheaded in Saudi Arabia. You name it, there's a vertebrate out there that does it. Nevertheless, most biologists continue to regard homosexuality as a sexual outlier. According to evolutionary theory, being gay is little more than a maladaptive behavior.

Joan Roughgarden, a professor of biology at Stanford University, wants to change that perception. After cataloging the wealth of homosexual behavior in the animal kingdom two years ago in her controversial book Evolution's Rainbow—and weathering critiques that, she says, stemmed largely from her being transgendered—Roughgarden has set about replacing Darwinian sexual selection with a new explanation of sex. For too long, she says, biology has neglected evidence that mating isn't only about multiplying. Sometimes, as in the case of all those gay sheep, dolphins and primates, animals have sex just for fun or to cement their social bonds. Homosexuality, Roughgarden says, is an essential part of biology, and can no longer be dismissed. By using the queer to untangle the straight, Roughgarden's theories have the potential to usher in a scientific sexual revolution.


http://www.seedmagazine.com/news/2006/06/the_gay_animal_kingdom.php

[KitSileya]

37. Interesting, isn't it.

I completely believe homo- and bisexuality is natural. As a practicing Catholic, I believe that God made people to love regardless of gender.

Thanks for the information - this is absolutely fascinating. Apparently, this is the first exhibit of its kind in a museum. It's about time.

[Ian David]

40. Dr. Roughgarden has some good points, but I think she goes too far.

Dr. Roughgarden seems to want to paint gay animals as both the major indicator and the necessary factor for social complexity.

While I agree that gay animals are a necessary, important and "natural" part of nature, the Roughgarden Theory seems intent on making homosexuality the cornerstone of both Evolution and Civilization.

Of course, for all I know, she could actually be correct-- but I'd be really surprised if "Gay Genes" were more important to the evolution of societies than "Guns, Germs and Steel."

[KitSileya]

43. I would think that evolution is caused by myriad reasons.

Perhaps the precence of homosexual couples is one of them, either because homosexual behavior lessens the tendency toward violence, or because same-sex couples help raise young, or other things I cannot think of.

[mom cat]

50. I wish that "gay genes" were more of a determinent of the

direction of culture than whatever it is that makes guns and steel so valued.

[KitSileya]

52. Amen. I'd rather have men kissing than killing.

I'm not gay nor a man, but I wonder if a lot of men's aggressiveness comes from having to repress so much emotion, and especially emotion towards other males.

[mom cat]

84. LOL!

[WindRavenX]

57. but, there's strong evidence to suggest that being gay is...

...actually quite advantageous in propagating your genes.

In some gopher systems, a gay sibbling will often be the "watcher" for predators and alert his kin to the approaching predator, which puts the alerter at risk BUT helps his kin, which his siblings share 25% of his makeup, pass on their genes.

It's really funny how nature works.

[Ian David]

59. I agree that gay animals and gay genes...

are a necessary and important cog in the machinery of Society and of Evolution.

However, after reading a couple of Dr. Roughgarden's articles, I got the impression that she doesn't see "gay genes" as an important cog, but that she seems to argue that they are the engine that drives all the machinery.

I think that Dr. Roughgarden contributes much toward filling-in some of the blanks and omissions in the story of Evolution, but I don't think she's upset the whole paradigm.

[KurtNYC]

63. A British study found that guys who considered themselves bi-sexual

were almost 80/20% -- that is 80% attracted to one gender and 20% to the other. I believe they used a control group (gay or str8) and found no difference. Let me see if I can pull that study...

If true, it means that humans are essentially bi-sexual and would fit with what is being observed in other species. Biologically it takes only seconds to reproduce but the cohesiveness and heirarchy of groups is on-going and equally important to survival.

edit to add: couldnt google up the study (I'm at work) but here is one of my favorite interviews -- gay penguins:
http://archive.salon.com/mwt/feature/2002/03/08/gay_penguins/index.html

[KitSileya]

64. I loved when they discover in zoos that their most

faithful and popular penguin couples are gay. It's happened in several zoos that I've seen, a German one, besides the Coney Island one. And in fact, many single female birds lay their eggs in the nests of gay bird couples, and these couples are often better parents than straights.

I believe that humans are essentially bi-sexual, as you say. Of bird couples, 4-5% of the couples are gay, which would translate to ca. 8% of the population (not all the birds have mates.)

[semillama]

70. Could you post a citation for that?

Not trying to dispute you, but I'm a birder and wouldn't mind knowing about the study.

[KitSileya]

77. Actually, that's from the article I'm quoting.

It's in Norwegian, so.... but he does say 4-5% of the bird couples (duck and geese, I guess, since he mentions them specifically in the sentence preceeding) are homosexual, and the 8% figure is an estimate of mine - based on 5% of the couples.

[BlueStorm]

68. I have always felt that it was necessary

I thought about this a long time ago, that homosexuality is a means of "population control." After all if everyone was heterosexual and reproducing we would have more people than what we have now and thus more problems.

BlueStorm

[mom cat]

44. Male giraffes "do it" more with each other than with females:

Another function of necking is affectionate and sexual, in which two males will caress and court each other, leading up to mounting and climax. Same sex relations are more frequent than heterosexual behavior. In one area 94% of mounting incidents were of a homosexual nature. The proportion of same sex courtships varies between 30 and 75%, and at any given time one in twenty males will be engaged in affectionate necking behavior with another male. Females, on the other hand, only appear to have same sex relations in 1% of mounting incidents.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giraffa_camelopardalis

[MADem]

3. ...dominance, competition, or 'saying hello'.....????

Saying HELLO? Jeez, a simple handshake or a wave would do!!!!

Seriously, that's an interesting take on how the so-called 'scientists' would be afraid to be honest about their observations....tsk, tsk.

[maxsolomon]

4. don't bother me with your 'facts'

it says here in my bible about gay giraffes... here in leviticus... no, the song of deborah... no, wait...

[KitSileya]

11. Exactly, and one of the things he says,

is that in many cases, same sex orgies are the resolution of conflicts by taking the focus away from violence. This is the case when spotted dolphins meet a type of fish in Norwegian called 'tomle'. It also secures the lojalty between males - for example, male lions not only have gay sex with other male lions when they're not a part of a flock, in many cases they are in fact brothers. Not only gay sex, but gay incestuous sex! (gasp!)

God made them this way - animals cannot sin, so gay sex is not a sin.

[Ian David]

60. I dare the Fundamentalist Christians to preach to the lions about gay sex

Ah, so many Christians, so few (gay) lions...

[KitSileya]

80. That would take care of things, wouldn't it?

The only problem I can foresee, is that the discerning (gay) lion might not want to eat them - I doubt fundies will taste very good, even with massive amounts of ketchup. Too much bile.

[Ian David]

12. My Hebrew School teacher (Circa 1980) believed in gay animals...

In fact, he believed that's why Gawd was willing to drown the animals during Noah's Flood.

I asked him why Gawd would kill all the animals, and he said it was because the animals were doing "wicked and un-natural things."

I tried getting clarification-- were the animals eating people? No, that wasn't it. But he wouldn't elaborate on what "wicked and un-natural" things the animals were actually doing.

Years later, I finally figured out what he meant-- the animals were having gay sex.

So, someone, somewhere, has been pondering gay animals and "The" Bible.

I wonder if it's even in The Talmud somewhere that pre-deluvian animals were gay?

[Ian David]

5. I'm not buying it. How do you get assless leather chaps on a dolphin?

[KitSileya]

7. LOL!!

ROTFLMAO, what a good comeback. (or comeout?)

[lonestarnot]

14. OMG ROTFLMAO

:rofl: Bet that fish gotta chapped ass!

[Miss Chybil]

20. ROFLMAO!!! nt

[underpants]

55. What about the helmet thing-anyone ever really explain that one?

[lonestarnot]

58. Helmet head or ant eater?

[Behind the Aegis]

79. LMFAO!!!

That is a hoot!

:rofl:

[Finder]

9. Nature is bisexual...

and anyone that says otherwise is either uneducated, a bigot, or both.

That said--assigning the term "gay" to a species is a bit out there...

[KitSileya]

16. Well, apparently this is the first exhibition of its kind.

And gay is perhaps a bit clumsy, but writing homosexual everytime, or same-sex is a bit cumbersome.

But since the gay giraffes have been most popular on this thread, it might be interesting to note that Dr Bøckman claims that 90% of all intercourses between giraffes involve two males - whether that means that the species is 90% gay, or that the females only have sex when they're in heat and the gay giraffes any time they feel for it, I don't know, but it seems to say that it's a lot more fun being a gay male giraffe than a straight female one....

[semillama]

74. You know, what all this actually seems to say

is that "heterosexual" and "homosexual" are cultural constructs and have no real place in biology. There's really not heterosexual or homosexual behavior - there's just sexual behavior, no prefixes required. Perhaps the categories should be behavior related to reproduction and behavior related to social bonding/pleasure? If you think about it, how much really of heterosexual human sex is for reproduction? None of mine is, that's for sure.

[KitSileya]

78. Yeah, that sounds about right.

We're far too hung up on sex - or at least in trying to pressure it into specific 'approved' forms and norms.

[Phredicles]

10. How do you say, "I wish I knew how to quit you" in Giraffe?

In general it sounds like giraffes know how to have a good time; I hear they also like to give themselves oral pleasure, what with those long necks and all.

Or are Rethugs just telling Lieberman hello? (When in doubt, go with the cheap shot...)

[Ian David]

15. Giraffe's were thought mute, but they communicate using Infrasound.

Gay Giraffe says, "That sofa disrupts the whole flow of the room."


Silent Sentinels?

For centuries, biologists believed giraffes were the mute giants of Africa's plains and forests -- silent sentinels gazing to the horizon. In recent years, however, new techniques and technologies have allowed scientists to listen more carefully -- and realize that giraffes may be talking after all. Just not in a way that we can hear.

Over the last few decades, biologists using special microphones, recording equipment, and computer analysis programs have realized that whales, elephants, and some other animals were using extremely low-frequency sounds -- far below the range of human ears -- to communicate.

These low-pitched sounds are known as "infrasound," and they have at least one remarkable property: they can travel farther than higher-pitched noises through the air and earth. Such long-distance communication is a must for animals, such as giraffes or elephants, that can be spread over vast territories. Elephants, for instance, may be able to communicate with other animals up to several miles away.

Studying infrasound, however, is difficult. In part, that's because so many things produce infrasound, from rumbling earthquakes and thunder storms to trains and cars. Sorting out wild sounds from the background noise can be nearly impossible. But by doing studies in zoos, where researchers can partly control experiments, scientists have been able to document the existence of infrasound and show that animals appear to be using it to communicate.

More:
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/tallblondes/infrasound.html

[cynatnite]

13. So that means rush is gay

:rofl:

[Kali]

18. Way back in the 70's I did a research paper in High School

Biology entitiled "Deviant Sexual Behavior in Nature" that was fun. Wonder if a kid could get away with something like that these days?

Any human behavior you could possibly think of occurs in non-human species, we are a part of nature, after all.

[Ian David]

23. I've never seen monkeys behave as badly as Republicans do. n/t

[KitSileya]

31. Not to mention, in some species,

the relationships between opposite-sex couples are impermanent, but the same-sex couples are together for years. Republicans seem to value fidelity in theory, but don't practice it, unlike many same-sex animal couples...

[Kali]

61. no but lots of "lower" life forms behave like repugs - worms, maggots,

etc.

[Ian David]

62. Republickers are not like maggots.

Maggots wait until you're dead before they start eating you.

[Kali]

66. Not screwworms.

oooh then we can talk about other parasites and disease organisms too. Republicans are natural after all. :evilgrin:

[intheflow]

71. But I've seen a monkey's ass as our pResident.

[JuniperLea]

21. Don't forget the little hyenas!

They are all born with little penises and play at sex... girl and boy hyenas both have them. I always thought it was so cute... they play at having sex... awww...

:)

[KitSileya]

27. With pygmy chimpanzees,

"sex is a family matter. The little ones give a helping hand when they're not busy giving each other oral sex."

[semillama]

72. I witnessed bonobos doing similar things

at the Columbus Zoo. Once, involving what Randall might call "ass to mouth" to the horror of some onlookers and delight of others.

[progressoid]

22. Damn you Satan!!! Leave the Grampuses alone!!!

[Ian David]

24. I have nothing against gay dolphins. That's hot. But gay Grampuses?

That's just gross.


Grampus
gram·pus Pronunciation (grmps)
n.
1. A cetacean (Grampus griseus) related to and resembling the dolphins but lacking a beaklike snout.
2. Any of various similar cetaceans, such as the killer whale.

[KitSileya]

29. Thanks!

I had some difficulties finding the translation for some of the species mentioned in the article.

[progressoid]

32. No kidding!

I like to think I'm open minded. Heck, sometimes I even like to watch some some hot dolphin on dolphin action. But like you said, grampuses, that's just gross.

[Ian David]

34. Next thing you know, the Grampuses will be trying to adopt our Salmon. n/t

[progressoid]

41. Exactly. This will only spread if we don't do something about it.

And, it's starting to hit home. Frankly, I'm already a little concerned about my Plecostomus. The way he looks at the other fish is a little creepy.

[sutz12]

25. Where I grew up, I was surronded by dairy farms...

Dairy farms typically don't keep many bulls; they tend to be harder to handle than cows. The farms around where I lived only kept one, and they kept him well penned up. We're talking 6-8 foot heavy fences here.

Anyway, I remember distinctly seeing cows humping each other out in the pastures all of the time. I never gave it much thought back then, but :shrug: . Funny how our church never mentioned that, eh? :)

[Ian David]

33. My dog had a gay boyfriend when I had to board him at an "open" kennel

This one little dog kept humping him so constantly, that they eventually had to separate them.

The dog wasn't interested in humping any of the other male dogs-- or any of the females.

All he wanted was to hump my little dog. Constantly. And with great enthusiasm.

I think he was in love at Brokeback Kennel.

[sutz12]

46. Ahhh....true love...

:rotf

[mom cat]

48. My two male Himalayans really love each other. They both ignore the female

cat. She has a complex about it.

[KitSileya]

49. Poor girl, to be so ignored.

You should find her a dating service, or just hire an escort.

[Boomer]

38. Daily gay erotica displays at my house

My 8-yr-old male Lab is absolutely enamored of our young male terrier. From the time the terrier was a pup, the Lab would provide enthusiastic oral sex several times a day. The terrier doesn't seem to mind one bit. :evilgrin:

And one of our female terriers would chase and mount male or female dogs (if she could catch them).

[mom cat]

35. Check out the book: ... Biological Exuberance

http://www.amazon.com/Biological-Exuberance-Homosexuality-Stonewall-Paperback/dp/031225377X

Also check out this google thread:
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=t&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2006-02,GGLG:en&q=homosexual+giraffes

[KitSileya]

39. Thanks! eom.

[Ian David]

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[KitSileya]

53. Ooohh, thanks! I do realize that this is a subject

that must have been discussed before, especially on a liberal, progressive webforum such as DU, but I found it interesting that this is a museum exhibit - the first of its kind, apparently. Even tho' Scandinavia is (notoriously) liberal and open-minded, it's nice to see that they're finally kicking academia on their behind with regards to this subject, especially if it is as the zoologist says, that many scientists underreport or ignore instances of homosexual sex.

[TlalocW]

36. When I was in college

We were visited by an evangelist every Friday who came there to yell at us for allowing women to wear pants and for dancing to music. Since I had open afternoons on Friday I would spend an hour or so making life difficult for him. One time when he was on a tear about homosexuals, I yelled at him to explain homosexual behavior in animals since his theology also believed animals had no souls (thus neither entered heaven or hell) so what they were doing couldn't be considered a sin. He was momentarily taken aback but then pulled this explanation out of his ass:

God gave man dominion over the Earth, and man's sin covers the entire Earth, and thus it corrupts everything on Earth.

I yelled back, "Wait, you're saying that there are two gay monkeys going at it in the rainforest right now, and it's our fault? Are you mental?" He chose to ignore me after that, but every now and then when he was preaching, I would yell, "Tell us about the gay monkeys, damn it!"

The rest of that semester, every now and then someone on campus would yell out at me in greeting, "Hey, gay monkey man!"

TlalocW

[KitSileya]

42. LOL a little bit of ridicule is good for the soul.

And a most efficient weapon against fundamentalists - they're absolutely unable to laugh at themselves.

[Ian David]

45. Somewhere Republican Monkeys are taking bananas from a tribe of chimps...

and using that fruit to pay for golf trips in Scottland.

[Ian David]

54. Jump Back?!? The next time he shows-up, start a dance number...

Footloose
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Footloose is a 1984 movie that tells the story of Ren McCormack (played by Kevin Bacon), a teenager who was raised in Chicago and moves to a small town where the town government has banned dancing and rock music. Ren and his classmates want to have a senior prom, with music and dancing, and so must figure out a way to get around the law and Reverend Shaw Moore (played by John Lithgow) who makes it his mission in life to keep the town dance and rock-free. The movie was loosely based on events that took place in the tiny, rural farming community of Elmore City, Oklahoma. Much of the film was filmed in Payson, Utah and Lehi, Utah, with the Lehi Roller Mills featured prominently.

Dean Pitchford wrote the screenplay for Footloose, Herbert Ross directed, and Paramount Pictures co-produced and distributed the film. Footloose also starred Lori Singer as Reverend Moore's independent daughter Ariel and Dianne Wiest as the Reverend's devoted yet sympathetic wife. Footloose is one of the earliest film appearances of Sex and the City star Sarah Jessica Parker for which she was nominated for Best Young Supporting Actress in a Motion Picture Musical, Comedy, Adventure or Drama at the Sixth Annual Youth in Film Awards, and Chris Penn as Willard Hewitt, Ren's friend, who doesn't know how to dance until Ren teaches him.

Two songs from the movie, "Footloose" by Kenny Loggins and "Let's Hear It For The Boy" by Deniece Williams, both hit #1 on the Billboard Hot 100 and received 1985 Academy Award nominations for Best Music (Original Song). The song "Footloose" also received a 1985 Golden Globe Award nomination for Best Original Song – Motion Picture.

There is a soundtrack of the music from the film released and is available in compact disc format. The soundtrack includes two rock singles, the title song by Kenny Loggins and "Holding Out for a Hero" by Bonnie Tyler, two R&B singles, "Let's Hear It For the Boy" by Deniece Williams and "Dancing In the Sheets" by Shalamar and the love theme "Almost Paradise" by Mike Reno from Loverboy and Ann Wilson from Heart. The film was later released in VHS, Laserdisc and DVD (in widescreen only) formats and the soundtrack went on to sell over 9 million copies in the USA.

More:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Footloose




In 1980, the graduating class made history by getting permission to Dance at the Prom. This international press release resulted in a screen writer visiting our town and writing a movie script. That movie was "Footloose". Although at the time, dancing was a sensitive issue and the leaders chose not to give permission for the city name to be used, today, we are very proud of that history. E Network came to town in April of 2004 and did a special "Based On" program about our city and
"Footloose".

More:
http://www.oml.org/dbs/elmorecity/abdbz.cfm


Artist: Kenny Loggins
Song: Footloose


I been working so hard
Keep punching my card
Eight hours, for what?
Oh, tell me what I got
I get this feeling
That time's just holding me down
I'll hit the ceiling
Or else I'll tear up this town
Tonight I gotta cut
(Chorus)
Loose, footloose
Kick off your Sunday shoes
Please, Louise
Pull me offa my knees
Jack, get back
C'mon before we crack
Lose your blues
Everybody cut footloose
You're playing so cool
Obeying every rule
Dig way down in your heart
You're yearning, burning for some
Somebody to tell you
That life ain't passing you by
I'm trying to tell you
It will if you don't even try
You can fly if you'd only cut
(Chorus)
Loose, footloose
Kick off your Sunday shoes
Oowhee, Marie
Shake it, shake it for me
Whoa, Milo
C'mon, c'mon let go
Lose your blues
Everybody cut footloose
FIRST - we got to turn you around
SECOND - You put your feet on the ground
THIRD - Now take a hold of your soul
FOUR - Whooooooooa, I'm turning it
Loose, FOOTLOOSE
(Chorus)

More:
http://www.lyrics007.com/Kenny%20Loggins%20Lyrics/Footloose%20Lyrics.html




See also:

Did You Know 'Footloose' is based on a true story? -In 1979 the small town of Elmore City, Oklahoma faced a community crisis. The seniors of Elmore City High School wanted to plan a senior prom, but dances were against the law thanks to a not-forgotten ordinance from the late 1800s that forbade dancing within the city limits. A storm of controversy pitted the high school students against City Council members led by the local minister who declared dancing a tool of the devil. This tempest in a teapot that rocked the rural community rocked and rolled the rest of America, too, when the 1984 smash hit movie Footloose, based on their story, set the nation dancing...

Footloose is to be re-made! In the current Hollywood fashion of retro remakes, Footloose is to be re-made by "Chicago" and "Moulin Rouge" executive producers Craig Zadan and Neil Meron. Paramount has made a deal with them to reinvent the 1984 hit as a full-scale musical, according to showbusiness newspaper Variety. Tunes from the original Footloose will be used, including the hit title track and Let's Hear It For The Boy, it added. "We'll use the same premise, but write a new script that will use new film techniques to make a dynamic musical" -Craig Zadan

More:
http://www.fast-rewind.com/footlse.htm

[TlalocW]

76. Speaking of dancing...

Another time when he was going off on a tear about how dancing is evil, I spotted a Latina friend walking to class. Although I'm white, I can dance merengue, salsa, vallenato, cumbia, etc., and she always liked to show me new moves because dancing was her life. So I called her over and distracted her from what the evangelist was saying and asked her to quickly show me the latest move she had just shown me a couple of days ago. So we started dancing in front of this guy and all the students watching us, and he started yelling at her (not me) about her sinfulness. She was a little shocked but quickly recovered and started arguing with the guy while laughing (she realized I had tricked her) and punched my arm kind of hard before she went on to class.

The other good one I had was that he was talking about how you turn women into whores when you look at them with lust in your heart. He was really close to us when he said that so I turned to the woman next to me and apologized very loudly to her so he could hear, but I trailed off and just stared directly at her breasts for a while before I "snapped back" and got mad at myself and apologized to her again for that latest incursion into making her a whore. He called me a whoremonger for my efforts at least. Everyone, including the girl, laughed.

TlalocW

[underpants]

56. Did they account for the Bush administration?

Look I'm just saying

[dback]

65. If this were in the U.S., their funding would immediately be pulled

No sirree, can't have our children "indoctrinated" about "immoral" behaviors, even if it's between animals. It'd be by the same people on the Texas school board who're working to get the teacher fired whose 5th graders saw a nude sculpture in a museum during a field trip.

What's bizarre is, conservatives used to claim that "homosexual behavior doesn't happen in nature." Now that it's been proven that yes, indeed, it does, they've switched tactics and now say, "Well, human beings are specially created by God, and elevated above animals. That's why we have marriage."

Wearying, isn't it?

[Raster]

67. We have an adorable female (spayed) Cocker Spaniel that has a favorite

toy as sex partner. Layla (our dog) has "fuck-bunny." This is a large, white, soft stuffed bunny (almost a big as she is) that Layla maneuvers into the doggie position, mounts it from behind and goes to town, even to the point of producing a wet spot. She only has sex with bunny and only in the doggie position. When Layla is in the mood for a bit o' nookie, she likes to bring me the bunny so we can fight over it and then she wrests it from my grip. She always wins. Then once she has won her treasure, she proceeds to hold it down by the back of the neck and give it the ol' heave-ho. This is a spayed female dog. We have decided that bunny is probably a female bunny and that Layla is a lesbian.

[Ian David]

69. Layla isn't a Lesbian. Layla is a Plushophile

Plushophilia
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A plushophile is a person who has a paraphilia for large soft furry toys, or plushies. However, a plushophile does not always have to have such an attraction to fall under this category. An emotional or sexual fondness of stuffed toys, often in this context known as 'plushies', may also indicate a plushophile.

More:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plushophilia




See also:

Two Ears and a Tale: The plush life (Seattle Weekly)
So I fired up the search engine. To my astonishment, the string "sex + fetish + plush animals" yielded a handful of Web sites. Plushies are real. ...
http://www.seattleweekly.com/music/9914/two-reighley.php

[Raster]

73. You know I was thinking along those lines. It really amazing to see this

little partimix Cocker get all butch go to town on her bunny. Sometimes she goes at it several times in a row.

[Warren DeMontague]

75. Well, Duh. Nature is "against Nature!" I mean, look at all those fossils

clearly planted by satan to lure folks away from the obvious truth of Earth's 6,000 year age, and to encourage homosexuality, darwinism, materialism, atheism, humanism, fornication, and that ever-pesky independent thought in the Lord's easily misled sheep.

[donheld]

81. Check this out

The Gay Animal Kingdom
The effeminate sheep & other problems with Darwinian sexual selection.

http://www.seedmagazine.com/news/2006/06/the_gay_animal_kingdom.php?page=all&p=y


Joan Roughgarden thinks Charles Darwin made a terrible mistake. Not about natural selection—she's no bible-toting creationist—but about his other great theory of evolution: sexual selection. According to Roughgarden, sexual selection can't explain the homosexuality that's been documented in over 450 different vertebrate species. This means that same-sex sexuality—long disparaged as a quirk of human culture—is a normal, and probably necessary, fact of life. By neglecting all those gay animals, she says, Darwin misunderstood the basic nature of heterosexuality.

Male big horn sheep live in what are often called "homosexual societies." They bond through genital licking and anal intercourse, which often ends in ejaculation. If a male sheep chooses to not have gay sex, it becomes a social outcast. Ironically, scientists call such straight-laced males "effeminate."

Giraffes have all-male orgies. So do bottlenose dolphins, killer whales, gray whales, and West Indian manatees. Japanese macaques, on the other hand, are ardent lesbians; the females enthusiastically mount each other. Bonobos, one of our closest primate relatives, are similar, except that their lesbian sexual encounters occur every two hours. Male bonobos engage in "penis fencing," which leads, surprisingly enough, to ejaculation. They also give each other genital massages.


As this list of activities suggests, having homosexual sex is the biological equivalent of apple pie: Everybody likes it. At last count, over 450 different vertebrate species could be beheaded in Saudi Arabia. You name it, there's a vertebrate out there that does it. Nevertheless, most biologists continue to regard homosexuality as a sexual outlier. According to evolutionary theory, being gay is little more than a maladaptive behavior.

[NMMNG]

82. They just don't know any better

They haven't been told the Good News about God and how He wants to send them to Hell if they don't stop that. :sarcasm:

[NMMNG]

83. They just don't know any better

They haven't been told the Good News about God and how He wants to send them to Hell if they don't stop that. :sarcasm: