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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 06:02 AM
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If Obama's speech yesterday on civil liberties and nat. security doesn't
make him a prime candidate for at least the VP position on the national ticket, then this party recognizes neither a fine mind nor integrity when it stares them in the face. Rather, we become pale shadows of the GOP genuflecting to legacy candidates who chose to sell us out rather than behaving in our nation's interest by protecting the Constitution. Obama has my support.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 06:09 AM
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1. I think he is running for prez
He is suddenly everywhere.

He is the type of guy who could excite youth in America like no on since Kennedy. He is going to need a tunning mate with serious gravitas and a washington insider. My choice of the moment is Lee Hamilton.

But the thought of seeing Gore, Kerry, HRC, Richardson, Biden, Feingold, Clark, et al and Obama inIowa in January makes for a great show.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 06:23 AM
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3. I favor this scenario ---->
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 06:29 AM
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4. Why bring down Obama by teaming him with a loser?
Gore couldn't beat bush. He certainly doesn't stand a chance against a real candidate.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 06:34 AM
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6. Ok that was just ugly
Edited on Thu Sep-28-06 06:35 AM by tkmorris
There is NO CALL for anyone that calls themselves a Democrat to act the way you just did. You drag down the level of discourse on the entire forum with such pettiness. If you don't prefer Gore that's fine, but be an adult about it for all our sakes.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 06:36 AM
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7. Gore DID beat bush. nt
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 06:36 AM
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8. Your memory is slipping. Gore beat Bush by 500,000 votes.
Bush needed to go to the Supreme Court to win.
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 06:18 AM
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2. I've only been able to find video of it...
..and I can't watch video at work. Is there a transcript? Did he come out soundly and loudly against torture?
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 06:30 AM
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5. When Obama came for a rally in Louisville, he told the crowd
that he was in charge of promoting candidates in the midwest. This probably explains why he is everywhere.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 06:47 AM
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9. There are many fine minds, and people with integrity,
serving the Democratic Party. Many of those people are not given the respect and support they deserve by "beltway" Democrats. Why should this be different for Obama? Why should the party honor his work more than the rest? :shrug:
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 07:00 AM
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10. He's less than a one term senator
with a tendency to be a moral scold and he's repeatedly shown bad judgment, as with his questioning the filibuster.

Not only has he NOT earned his position of prominence, he's done little to take advantage of it and further traditional Democratic values. If that's the best the Dems can do- we're pretty well sunk.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 07:05 PM
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11. My point:
It's not the best Dems CAN do; it's what they WILL do. Too often we don't get the best.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 07:06 PM
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12. Actions vs. words.
Actions in a landslide.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 08:19 PM
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13. He's good at giving speeches, but he never stands up with
Feingold, Boxer or Kerry. No thank you.
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