From now on, it'll be easy to keep your powder dry.

[William Bloode]

If the new torture legislation passes we are all screwed! They are taking away the very rights that protect us as citizens. It is still we the people right?

If this comes to pass when will they come for you? How long till many of us get labeled enemy combatants? Who's first the dissenters, the homosexuals, abortion activists, the socialists among us, the mentally handicapped? How long is it till they can just choose a reason, lock you up and throw away the key? If this passes it's no problem, they can just disappear you and viola your gone!

Once this passes it will almost take an act of god to get it repealed. It is pretty much fact that once stuff like this gets through, the powers that be have a hard time letting it go. Simply because it gives them control to do as they please.

I fear this bill. I fear it more than any "radical Muslim". I can feel a chill clear into the marrow of my bones. Part of me wants to cry, part of me wants to go on a rampage of destruction to vent the anger i feel. I am sick to my stomach, and the only remedy is for this thing to go away.

I am hoping against all hope that the Senate puts a stop to it, ir can at least delay it till after mid term. So far all i am getting is the old keep your powder dry bullshit. We can't have that. Any politician Dem or Repub who votes for this is a traitor, and should be placed in jail for crimes against the Constitution and the people. I would vote for a repuke who voted no on this bill before i voted for a Dem that voted yes.

I can say one thing. It'll be easy to keep your powder dry while locked up in a cell.

[Hugin]

1. They said, "It could never happen here."

They were wrong.

[OneBlueSky]

2. the camps await . . . n/t

.

[Warren Stupidity]

3. Our Loyal No Position Party

has announced that it will not stand and oppose this abomination. The Senate will not stand against tyranny. I believe it is over. We are, as we always have been, on our own with our own resources, left standing to fight against tyranny.

[MamaBear]

4. What good is dry powder if they take away your matches?

This is so, so bad.

[William Bloode]

5. I dont know what to do.

I am so lost and frustrated. My mind whirls with fear, and rage. I can almost feel it seeping through my pores into the air.

Remember, they hate us for our freedom!:scared: :nuke: :puke:

[bbgrunt]

6. it is beyond my comprehension that the democratic party is

not using every TOOL in their toolbox to stop this. They have become co-conspiritors in the death of the constitution.

[madinmaryland]

7. Sounds like the only option left is to bottle it up in the courts.

How long that can will take, I don't know. I would hope that there will be some courts that will rule this legislation as unconstitutional. That seems to be the only hope left.

:scared:

[William Bloode]

9. Yes one can only hope.

I guess we have to try and find a glimmer somewhere. I only fear how much damage they can due until then. How many people will suffer? How many will be locked away from their loved ones and beaten?

Today i cry for my country, and countrymen.

[blm]

8. Become the majority party and REVISIT and REWRITE the bill.

Nothing is over. And it ain't getting Constitutional status.

[William Bloode]

10. Maybe, maybe not.

Once things like this pass they tend to stick around. It gives the government more power, which they are slow to relinquish. I am sure many politico's have been waiting for this.

[blm]

11. Get behind an anti-corruption, open government Democrat who you believe

will issue orders overturning the laws or will use his office to prompt the rewriting of a bill in line with our constitutional values.

Nothing is permanent. The Patriot Act, too, will get a rewrite from the next Dem president that isn't a centrist tool.

[William Bloode]

12. Yes, but how long must we suffer.

The process takes years, how many people will be harmed in the mean time? To do this to our nation is a disgrace.

[blm]

13. It is - I can see an open govt. Dem issuing an executive order overturning

the bill until a better, more constitutional bill is written that parallels the Geneva Convention.