Senator Byrd is proposing a "Sunset Provision" to allow time for Senators

[KoKo]

to have FIVE YEARS to review the "Torture Bill." He thanks Senators Obama and Clinton for co-sponsoring the bill. Byrd says they did that with the Patriot Act because it was "rushed through" with things added "in the night" changing the bill altogether. He says Bush and Cheney came over and changed the "Torture Bill" overnight. The Senate doesn't know what's in it and a Sunset Provision would allow time to study it.

FIVE YEARS? :eyes: What the heck does that mean? There must be something
less binding that that in the Amendment. Waiting to try to see what else is in the Sunset provision but Warner is talking against it now...so I doubt it will pass.

[niyad]

1. if they don't know what's in it, then why in the HELL are the voting

on it????

[MrCoffee]

2. Don't know what's in it in the interpretive sense.

It's a good amendment.

[KoKo]

3. Five Years to Torture and suspend Habeus? A good Amendment?

And, we don't know what else is in that bill...as Byrd said.

[Marie26]

4. What now?

Bush & Cheney came & changed the bill in the middle of the night? He actually said that? God knows what they're voting on now.

[KoKo]

5. CNN showed Bush and Cheney arriving on the Hill so....what Byrd said

is true. I think they might have arrived with a package of "photo's" that convinced Lindsey and some others to make sure they voted the "correct way." Their NSA and Patriot Act Surveillance have been put to good use. :scared:

[Atman]

6. Bingo

I just can't understand why Byrd feels the need to provide FIVE YEARS of torture and disappearing of people. How about ONE YEAR? Or six months? WTF, Mr. Byrd?

[Marie26]

7. Well, that's disturbing. nt

[flyarm]

8. warner is in a panic..he is bullshiting nothing but crap...

warner ..do they have pictures of you will little kids?? what is the panic in you warner??

what do they have on you lilly liver mother fucker warner??

fly

[flyarm]

9. warner is practically standing over Byrd!!..he is trying intimidation

he is really paractically standing over senator byrd!

what a fucker warner is...so warner is it little boys or little girls pissy pants has pictures of you compromised with???????????

i am so sick of these mother fucking republicans ...it is almost making me sick..

fly

[KoKo]

10. Levin is saying that the Sunset Provision won't disturb anything even

though the bill raises several Constitutional Issue. I'm not sure whether Byrd has written the Amendement in such a way that "Constitutional Issues" can addressed BEFORE the bill Sunsets.

Obama is saying this is not a "conventional war" and unless we build into our own processes some mechanism for re-examining this issue we could go forward forever with this bill setting a precedent.

Nothing good I see about this Amendment giving Bush/Cheney everything which means they can't change it if we get a Dem House and Senate. Sounds like it can't be touched for five years if it passes. :shrug: