"My America is better than this" election meme.

[femmedem]

Maybe most Americans don't care tonight about the torture bill. But they will care if we explain it to them, in letters to the editor, in conversations, in press conferences, and in political ads.

"My America is better than this."

I think this is much stronger than the "But if we mistreat our detainees, other people will mistreat us" argument. Dems are not going to win with the "we support our troops better" meme. It's true, of course, but we won't win that way.

But we will win if we appeal to people's patriotism. If we say that in our America, we don't do kangaroo courts. We don't do torture. We don't hold people forever based on hearsay or because somebody sold somebody to the U.S. for bounty. Our America is better than this.

And we have to keep informing people that our own military admits many of the detainees are absolutely innocent. Because while most Americans probably don't care what happens to terrorists, they still believe innocent people deserve basic rights.

My America is still that good. Isn't it?

[Solly Mack]

1. Obviously America isn't better than this

America isn't special
Nothing about America sets her a part
It can happen here
It did happen here

Indoctrinate a population for countless generations that their country is better, brighter, more free and just more special than other countries...and you get a population that doesn't want to hear their country is a war crime nation. They'll deny it with every fiber of their body.

[femmedem]

3. It is a very difficult realization.

And I think it happens in bits and pieces, if it happens at all. At least it did for me.

That's why I think this message could resonate. It allows them to keep their myth.

[Solly Mack]

4. but I don't want them to keep their myth

sustaining the lie is what got us here

if we want change, the myth must die

[femmedem]

5. I know, Solly. But people can only dismantle the myth a little at a time.

Each layer is so shocking and upsetting. And we have an election in November.

For what it's worth, I do believe this Administration has done more to dismantle the myth than any other. Even my husband's parents get it now. The same parents who practically disowned him during the Vietnam years.

[Nutmegger]

2. This is a sad day.

:cry:

[femmedem]

6. Yes, friend, it is. n/t