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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:58 PM
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US Supreme Court to Revisit Landmark Abortion Case Next Week
How's this for timing?

The Supreme Court plans to hear a suit to reverse the landmark abortion US case, Doe v. Bolton, from the case’s original plaintiff, who claims the facts of the original case were fraudulent and she was misrepresented by attorneys.

The Court plans to consider the case on October 6, which with its companion case Roe v. Wade remains the chief obstacle to national and state laws restricting or prohibiting abortion. Both Doe and Roe were decided by the Court the same day, thereby overturning the nation’s abortion laws. However, it is the “health exception” established in Doe that permitted unfettered abortion from conception until the moment of birth.

http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/sep/06092810.html
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 11:00 PM
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1. The question will be whose life is most valuable
the mother or the child?
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 11:05 PM
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2. Well, the prelifers have the political advantage, so I'll bet it's the
prechild over the woman.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 11:19 PM
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8. If the government finds the woman to be less valuable
than the child, I won't pay another cent in taxes.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 11:23 PM
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10. And you'll be disappeared. I think that's how they're going to settle
all legal disputes now. Whoosh into the ether. I mean, what good are you unless you pay taxes and buy gasoline?
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 11:27 PM
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13. We own guns and know how to use them
We're Westerners.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 11:33 PM
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16. Well, good luck, but the Air Force has those microwave weapons
that, misused, can blow your head wide apart. And you'll never see it coming. The head of the Air Force (can't remember his name) wants to use it on Americans for crowd control before using in warfare. Sounds preposterous but it's true.
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Stargazer99 Donating Member (943 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 11:07 PM
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3. Bush's administration refuses to fund any countries womens'
health if abortion services are provided. Last week a mother with a dead child within her body and not enough money to pay for the abortion died for lack of surgery to remove the dead child and the mother died with three children at home. Those three children needed a mother and the fundies literally killed her. If the mother's life had no value to fundies how about the three children? Pro-life my *ss.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 11:13 PM
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6. I don't think they are allowed to even mention abortion...
as an option or they will lose their funding. I could be mistaken about this.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 11:10 PM
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4. "unfettered abortion from conception until the moment of birth"
where in the country is this? the right wing has spent decades "fettering" abortion.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 11:25 PM
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11. This was fostered by women haters who think of women negatively
as if they were tramps out there more than willing to kill a full term baby. All stats prove otherwise but the right wing fascists hold on to these belifs to push their will.

These groups hold men completely innocent. It's just the slut woman who the courts want to rule on.
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 11:13 PM
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5. Perhaps this is the October suprise
October suprise.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 11:25 PM
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12. Ah. You're right. It would have to be one of the 2 most important
things in the world: abortion or gay marriage.
:puke:
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 11:42 PM
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18. Actually, reproductive choice is VERY important.
And the American people are overwhelmingly Pro-Choice. Please don't forget that fact. The idea that abortion is "their" issue is another in a long line of deliberate lies.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 11:45 PM
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19. You're right. And being a woman, I should know that. nt
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 12:38 AM
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20. I totally didn't want that to sound like a lecture, either.
:)

I just get fed up with the noise about how the "values voter" is all powerful, and we're getting clobbered on things like abortion. It's not true.
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Frazzled Educator Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 11:17 PM
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7. Hmm. . .kiss the right to choose goodbye.
Alito, Roberts, Scalia, Thomas and Kennedy must be wetting themselves for the opportunity to bring back the back room abortions and the wire hanger abortions.

Good bye right to choose. RIP. 1973 - 2006!
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 11:22 PM
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9. and drinking turpentine to do away with unwanted pregnancies
including rape and incest. The GOP is now trying to exert pressure based on their beliefs.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 11:28 PM
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14. Yawn. "Lifesite?" I doubt it.
Edited on Thu Sep-28-06 11:30 PM by impeachdubya
Sounds to me like the SCOTUS is going to look at this thing and go "Sorry. No sale". It doesn't sound like a real seriously put together challenge or anything.

While I don't underestimate the agenda of the far right clowns the GOP has stacked the court with, I don't think this is the torpedo with which they plan to sink Roe.

And doing it before the election would be a monumentally bad idea. One thing these pro-life goobers always forget is, THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS ARE PRO CHOICE. The Republicans want voters to be thinking about spooky terra-ists when they go to the polls, not the fact that the GOP wants to throw women in jail for having abortions and ban the birth control pill.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 11:31 PM
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15. Good point
It depends on how powerful W thinks he's stacked the Court.

Note only one woman remains. How shameful for this country.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 11:33 PM
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17. Oh, I think they'll go after Roe- and Griswold, too.
Edited on Thu Sep-28-06 11:36 PM by impeachdubya
They can't STAND that pesky-ass "right to privacy".

But I don't think this is the vehicle they'll use. Not by a longshot. This sounds like a real low-rent affair. (A plaintiff "changing their mind" doesn't affect the underlying legal issues one bit- and didn't they already try that with "Jane Roe", anyway?) Like the lower court just didn't want to deal with these folks, so they pawned it up to the Supremes.

Edit: Of course, I could be wrong. These are fucked up times.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:23 AM
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21. this women involved seems very bitter:


....."None of this was my decision. None of this was me. I don't understand why no one took it upon themselves in such an important case, a case that allowed a law to be passed to take innocent human lives, to speak to the plaintiff in the case. Why they didn't speak to me?"
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:26 AM
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22. and she will be testifying. This is not good (no matter the source)

....The original Doe, Sandra Cano, will testify that Doe v. Bolton was based on fraud
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:30 AM
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23. This gets their foot in the door.
Who can say where this will lead.
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