Will the US military be allwoed to torture inside the USA proper?

[muriel_volestrangler]

This may well have been answered somewhere already (in which case apologies, but could someone point me to it), but will the new bill allow the torture ('torture-lite', 'aggressive interrogation', 'serious pain', whatever) to be done inside the 'real' USA - the 50 states? Or is it explicitly restricted to Guantanamo and foreign countries, like Iraq? Is it restricted to military interrogators, or can the CIA, or FBI, do it too? Is it restricted to foreign citizens, or can US citizens be tortured as well?

I'm just wondering if this could affect, say, federal prisoners. Would they have to be sent to Guantanamo to be tortured - in which case, are there any laws stopping that, if they're US citizens? Or can the military be brought to torture federal prisoners inside the US?

[AndyA]

1. Will the US military be allwoed to torture inside the USA proper?

I think the only person who can answer your question now is George Bush. It is up to him, alone, to decide what happens. And he has that legal right now thanks to our corrupt Congress.

[ryanus]

5. Bingo

[goddess40]

2. Allowed? since when do they need permission?

They seem to do what they want and threaten anyone that condemns them.

[babylonsister]

3. According to this, yes:

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-ackerman28sep28,0,2039999.story?coll=la-news-comment-opinions

BURIED IN THE complex Senate compromise on detainee treatment is a real shocker, reaching far beyond the legal struggles about foreign terrorist suspects in the Guantanamo Bay fortress. The compromise legislation, which is racing toward the White House, authorizes the president to seize American citizens as enemy combatants, even if they have never left the United States. And once thrown into military prison, they cannot expect a trial by their peers or any other of the normal protections of the Bill of Rights.

This dangerous compromise not only authorizes the president to seize and hold terrorists who have fought against our troops "during an armed conflict," it also allows him to seize anybody who has "purposefully and materially supported hostilities against the United States." This grants the president enormous power over citizens and legal residents. They can be designated as enemy combatants if they have contributed money to a Middle Eastern charity, and they can be held indefinitely in a military prison.

But other provisions of the bill call even this limitation into question. What is worse, if the federal courts support the president's initial detention decision, ordinary Americans would be required to defend themselves before a military tribunal without the constitutional guarantees provided in criminal trials.

more...

[mom cat]

4. Support the Center for Constitutional Rights in their fight against

this bill:
http://www.ccr-ny.org/v2/home.asp

[DavidDvorkin]

6. There is no longer anything proper about the USA

We are now a most improper country.

It's probably wisest not to ask such questions. Don't bother your little head about it. Big Brother knows best. Trust Big Brother. Love Big Brother.

[mmonk]

7. Many people were disappeared after 9/11

and they were beaten, put in isolation, underwent body cavity searches everytime they went in and out of their cells. So I would say yes, what say ye?