Allen can put this N-word business to bed. Take a lie detector test

[The_Casual_Observer]

and offer lie detector tests to everybody who has made allegations. I know all about how lie detector tests can't be used as evidence, but it would sure show his good faith wouldn't it?

[havocmom]

1. Bad idea. Compulsive liars often pass

No conscious, no response.

[The_Casual_Observer]

2. Would he take the chance? I wish somebody would at least ask the

question.

[sam sarrha]

3. on Mistress Randi Rhodes show she explained macaca is the Nword in

north africa, the french refer to the north african's as Macaca.. equivalent to our N word. Allen's mother is from Tunisia, and he speaks fluent french.. it is doubtful he doesn't know what it means there.

[tuvor]

5. You know what pisses me off?

People who'd never use the N-word seem to have no problem using the M-word.

(I don't have a problem when discussing the actual word, as you've done. It's the "clever" references to "M-word Allen" and such.)

[walldude]

4. What's the point, we all know he did it and

even if he failed his supporters wouldn't care..

[Random_Australian]

6. Except there is no such thing as a lie-detector test.

You can put all the names you want on it, but when it comes down to it, polygraphs and the like are no longer counted as evidence for a reason.

And that reason is that they are shit.

The end.

[The_Casual_Observer]

8. Don't they still use those things for employment screenings?

Or perhaps that is just a myth, I really don't know.

[havocmom]

10. sometimes, but that's more because out of work polygraph people

sell the idea it will help employers.

It doesn't. Honest people can be very stressed at the whole idea and dishonest ones can pass with flying colors cuz they don't give a crap and don't have ethics to make them stressful at questions.

It doesn't work.

I beat on in a class just to make the point... in high school. I was THE SHY kid and the teacher got so mad he couldn't rattle me he had a friend ask me personal questions to try and get a response. I just set my mind to calm and told myself the machine would not pick up any stress response.

That day taught me a lot. Technology is no substitute for real investigation AND I could train my mind to be very powerful over my body. The latter helped years later when I had a medical problem the doctors said would take multiple surgeries to correct.

[The_Casual_Observer]

14. LIke you said, anybody willing to lie open eyed & steady to a gaggle

of press guys like he has been doing would show no respect to a polygraph test. Well, if there is anyplace to float an idea, DU is the place to do it, there is bound to be somebody who has the straight skinny. Thanks!

Still it would be interesting to see what his immediate reaction would be to a request for one, after all he probably used to watch that
show "Lie Detector" that F. Lee Bailey used to do!

[havocmom]

15. Well, with the legislation passed yesterday...

maybe we could arrange waterboarding?

Kidding, I'm kidding... sort of ;)

[Random_Australian]

11. It ought to be. They still use them in places like Libya, I think.

Because provided that the person knows absolutely nothing about the test, and is made to believe all sorts of funky things about it, then it becomes almost 60% accurate.

But you still find it occasionally around the world.

IIRC, the reason they stopped using it was that in America, a prisoner first taught all the inmates of a prison how to pass the test, then wrote a book about it.

I should hope it is a myth, because it is a stupid POS thing to use.

Unfortunately, people sometimes like to believe it works. :(

Edit: Is it Libya? I can't remember which, but one of the countries that has widespread torture and human rights abuses.

[zonkers]

7. Webb should go negative. Take one from their playbook.

[cynatnite]

9. It seems obvious that most know he's a liar at this point...

given how many people have came out and called him on his racism I don't think it's necessary. The only ones that believe him think bush is gawd.

[NOLADEM]

12. Lie detectors don't work

Barely better than a coin flip, and worse when the examiner doesn't know what they are doing, if the person taking the test is hypertensive, on sedatives, sociopathic, or simply calmer than baseline.

Might as well ask a Ouija Board or a psychic.

[Caution]

13. lie detectors are fiction. they don't work.