Fuck Foley ... FOCUS ON FUCKING TORTURE

[cool user name]

GEEEEEEEEEEEEZ, PEOPLE ....

[rzemanfl]

1. Self delete.

[swag]

2. Because they don't want us to think about all those wanking Republican

Congresscritters with their willies out soliciting underage sex on-line?

[cool user name]

5. He's dispicable ... no surprise there, sir.

Yet, something far more valuable than a perverted prick fuck is at stake.

Sorry, I think my liberties are much more valuable.

You can focus on Foley.

I'll stick with the torture issue myself.

[Name removed]

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[Democrat 4 Ever]

11. Since when couldn't Dems handle four or five things at one time?

With one hand tied behind our backs? I'm not willing to forget Foley but I'm not going to forget the Iraq report, Woodward's new book, the upcoming elections, the scandals, fraud, the lying, etc. All of these things will stay front and center because each and every one of them deserve our full attention. These horrible acts have hurt many people in order to enrich a few.

The Dems need to make sure every single scandal is hung around the repugs neck and rung like a cowbell every minute of every day for the next two years. No more sitting quietly by while the repugs implode - this is war. They think Dems are soft on war? Won't fight? Let's prove them doubly wrong. They brought this on themselves but if we don't use every single advantage to help this country we truly are lost.

[cool user name]

4. People with low post counts aren't worth the shit ...

... oh, that would be me.

So, because I haven't posted as much as you, that makes my opinion less worthy? Or was it the time of day?

Please, how do I avoid your clique?

[rzemanfl]

12. You are clearly entitled to your opinion.

I think our Rock Hard, Tumescent, Purple-veined, Engorged, Throbbing Republican friends would prefer we whine about the battle they already won than snipe at them on their way to the one in November. I could be dead wrong.

[cool user name]

17. No need to apologize ...

Thank you though.

You are entitled to your own opinion, as well, as we all are.

I think this issue is huge. I would bet more dollars than donut holes that many more people think the same.

I just hope we stay on target. This is definitive, again, in my opinion.

You were kind enough to apologize, yet no apology was required.

[Crazy Dave]

16. It's a stupid and lazy way to attack someone they disagree with

"Duh...you don't know what you're talking about because you have a low post count"

Duh...if they read the friggin' rules they'd know that criticizing others for a low post count is not allowed.

<Do not draw negative attention to the fact that someone is new, has a low post count, or recently became a member of Democratic Underground. Do not insinuate that because someone is new, they are a troll or disruptor.>

Duh...read the rules http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/rules_detailed.html also, the fundies love to suppress and discourage free speech and ideas, go sign up on their websites if you yourself like that mentality.


Welcome to DU "cool user name" :hi:

[rzemanfl]

18. I stand corrected. n/t

[Crazy Dave]

22. Thank you n/t

:hi:

[cool user name]

21. Thank you, Dave!

:hi:

[Crazy Dave]

24. You're welcome and...

...if we should ever disagree on a topic in the future I'll at least give you the courtesy and say why I disagree rather than a derogatory, non-qualifying, one liner.

[cool user name]

30. That is more than fair ... and I hope to be as noble as to do the same.

n/t

[C_U_L8R]

3. but torturing republicans is such fun !!!

force feed them their own hypocrisy
and watch em go pop. Sweet.

[liberal N proud]

6. Foley is just another in the long list of corrupt, criminal republicans

Why all the fuss?

Because KKKarl Rove has the media in a frenzy over it, diverting the attention from all the outrageous things the Congress pushed through in the final days.

[cool user name]

7. Exactly ... remain focused on torture, please.

[orpupilofnature57]

19. Bingo! A bipartisan point,, 36 fucking day's off for elections!!!

[acmejack]

8. I don't really know.

But I get quite tired of it. How many fucking phone calls to your Senators and Congressmen have you made in the last three days, oh righteous one? Get the fuck off my back. What do you think we have been doing all damn week? Maybe we can take a moments respite ,if it is all right with you and the others who have decided to pop in and tell us what to do this fine morning!

I would like to relax perhaps an hour or two after 72 hours of frenzied activity without a bunch of people dropping in and pontificating why everybody is not living up to their personal standards of concern. It is most annoying.

[cool user name]

26. Have you been at my side the past 72 hours?

Are you the guy with the red hair and receding hairline?

I have a bunch of people with me.

Which one are you?

Edit: can't spell "red" for some fucking reason.

[acmejack]

34. I'll not play any games with you.

My point is is get off your moralizing high horse & quit lecturing us. You'll quickly learn, if you haven't already, it isn't all that effective here. People have been frenzied, I dare say equally as agitated as you apparently have been. Simply by being here most of the 97,000 odd registrants are patriots and deeply upset by the events of the last few days. Yes, I am a master of understatement. And yes, I am as outraged as anyone on this board, if you spend any amount of time here you will learn I have sacrificed much in service of this Country, I love her deeply and while I am not always her most articulate defender, I pride myself in being one of the staunchest and most loyal stalwarts against despotism you will find.

I answer to your question, I am the handsome one;)

[cool user name]

36. Fantastic ... let's carry on then, shall we?

[Philosoraptor]

9. Enough with these "Enough with these threads already" threads.

[Demit]

15. Rilly. I'm picturing these posters, if they're forced to consider two

topics at a time, a cork pops out of their heads and their brains fall out, or something.

[orpupilofnature57]

23. Kick ,leave elitism at home.

[KharmaTrain]

13. Sex Sells

Yes, we need to address torture, but from a position of strength, not from the hinterlands we're in now. Focusing on Foley gets us closer to the day when we can bring up this regime's abuse of rights on many fronts and do it as a majority party in the House and or Senate.

While I'd love to be high-minded and think that torture and Iraq and other issues we feel are of principal is what wins elecctions, let's be real here. Nothing gets the corporate media's fascination than a politician connected to a dead naked girl or live naked boy.

Instead of the corporate media feeding the line on how Democrats are weak on defense or "have no plan", the focus will be on the Repugnicans and their lack of accountability and responsibility. Suburban white women...soccer moms and women in the South already were turning on the GOOP and this could seal the deal. Wars and lies are bad, but sex with young boys and lies are even worse. It's gonna force the Repugnicans to be on the defensive during a critical week of an election campaign and give some valuable cover to many local Democratic races.

We've been handed an October surprise that wasn't of our making, but sure can be used to our advantage...and there's nothing wrong with that. It's called politics and our need to restore some sanity to this country and then accountability has to be accomplished with keeping the Repugnicans on the defensive and the corporate media distracted and on a topic that makes Repugnicans look bad.

If this episode swings the House and Senate Democratic next January, then we turn our attention back to torture and do it from a position of strength.

[sweetheart]

28. Yes sex sells, truth fires take a trigger

the transcripts of these degenerate discussions need to be public domain.
The Google search doesn't show shit when i just checked, for foley, and
dems need to getstawork about that. A google search should number 1 on
the dialogs that that republican put on the internet, with his "maf54"
replaced with <republican congressman>. James carville used to do a job,
who does that job now? Shouldn't the democrats have, even on non-presidential
years, a nationwide campaign director? Like in the film, "war room", the
epople knew how to convert on a free electoral gift like this.

http://www.blogactive.com/2004/11/rnc-senior-staffer-seeks-others-for.html

[KharmaTrain]

43. Hang On...We're Just Getting Rolling

Look how this story has played out. The first emails were the borderline and came out Thursday night. Next thing Foley quickly folds tent and cuts and runs. That just opened the door...especially when the next batch of emails came out. Now this is less than 36 hours from when I'm typing this. As always, the rumors go around the world while the truth puts its pants on.

Unlike Iraq (where the corporate media has a black eye they want us to forget about) and Abramoff that requires too much brainpower for most sheeple to comprehend, this scandal is red meat for all sorts of media and surely will get attention from people who usually don't watch the news. It's a literal goldmine to stand-up comics and water-cooler jokes. It also will fuel a media frenzy as there seems to be more about Mr. Foley's past that is about to come to light. The more scandalous, be assured the corporate media will smell the ratings and it'll get lots of play...it's just too juicy to hold back on. They may try to softpeddle it at first, but as the narrative and the trial by media really gets rolling there'll be no way for the Repugnicans to spin this.

Also, now that one rat's been dragged out of the closet, how many others will follow? I can think of several other Repugnicans who have had their sexuality questioned. While Democrats are tolerant of one's orientation, that sure isn't how it is in the parallel universe.

Also how many other Repugnicans have some deviant behavior? I just saw a commercial in an east coast race where the Repugnican incumbent has been accused of choking someone...this Foley story is sure to have an impact on that race. Also, if Hastert and the GOOP leadership covered up this abuse of pages, how many others have been reported and stonewalled? How many other ethic violations of members have occured that have been covered up?

Stay tuned...this is gonna be a lot more fun to watch than another boooosh "Democrats are traitors" diatribe. The Repugnicans are on the defensive at a critical time in the election cycle...it sure feels good to watch them hang out to dry.

[sweetheart]

44. low hanging fruit indeed

dead blown up bodies, every photo that can be dredged up
to represent the 58000 known dead from iraqbodycount,
with the voiceover for the 'are you hard' bit is with
a naked old man hunched over his internet terminal
typing, and wanking his dingaling]

Republicans for iraq, "are you hard",
Republicans for torture, "are you hard",
Republicans for murder, "are you hard".

Its not hard, Vote Democratic this November.

[screembloodymurder]

14. You're right.

There's so much shit hitting the fan its hard to pick a target. We can't stay focused. There are great posts going unanswered. We're like the MSM posting on the latest absurdity and missing the real issues.

[NNN0LHI]

20. Torture won't do it. Sorry n/t

[orpupilofnature57]

27. Kkkarl has Jacko, waiting in the wings.

[Jcrowley]

25. Nero wasn't the only one fiddling

Congress passes 1/2 trillion Bucks for War Machine and the peasantry is focused on other things.
So it goes...

Congress Tries to Break Logjam of Bills

By CARL HULSE


WASHINGTON, Sept. 29 — Congress approved a major Pentagon spending bill today along with a stop-gap measure to keep the rest of the government running through the elections, as lawmakers also tried to dispose of border-control and abortion legislation before heading home to campaign.

On a 100-to-0 vote, the Senate passed and sent to President Bush a $447.6 billion bill for the Defense Department, including $70 billion for operations in Iraq and Afghanistan — a sum that will bring the total spent on those wars and other military operations to more than $500 billion. The House also approved $34.8 billion in homeland security spending, and the Senate was expected to follow suit later tonight.

http://fairuse.100webcustomers.com/fairenough/nyt493.html

[cool user name]

31. Truly valuable post.

Thanks for posting it.

[Crazy Dave]

35. Damn! I wonder how much was approved for Katrina victims...

...rebuilding New Orleans and making the levees safer? By comparison it would probably be like a drop in an ocean.

[LoZoccolo]

29. Yes because our concentrated mind-focus power will change that...

...over the weekend.

[cboy4]

32. I think we're all brilliant enough to focus on more than one issue

at a time, including torture.

The Repukes constantly go on and on about how they're the party of family values and morals........and another one of them gets into trouble for reportedly being a predator?

Hell no am I going to ignore this.

Fuck that.

[cool user name]

38. That's actually a great answer.

Thanks.

[cboy4]

40. Thanks, that's why DU pays me the big bucks

:)

[tinfoilinfor2005]

33. I TOTALLY Agree with you.

Now can I go over to the slimy republican sex thread? ;-)

[Fuzz]

37. He already asked me to. Want to see the IM's?

[deathdog]

:rofl:

Thanks for a chuckle!

[AIJ Alom]

39. Excuse me, but torture does not quite catch the American publics ears and

minds as easily as Republican House Leadership Coverup of Pedophile. This is a major issue that will even force the torture the bad guys supporters to think twice about whom they vote for.

[cool user name]

41. I'll buy that ...

Perhaps, I was a bit trigger happy.

Though, we should focus on the main event and keep the (I can't believe I'm saying this) pedophiles as appetizers.

:puke:

Sorry. I'm going to hell for that one.

[UTUSN]

42. There are MANY roads, big and small... n/t

[paulk]

45. Focus on the election Nov. 7

The Foley issue will hurt the Republicans far more than the "torture" issue will


sex sells

[nini]

46. We should focuson any issue that will help vote those assholes out

Foley is one of them.

[madmusic]

47. The OP is right.

Do we want Foley tortured in prison?

:dilemma:

[Hubert Flottz]

48. He ain't my type at all!

But you knock yourself out!

[cool user name]

49. Now we got to deal with the last (unheard words) of the hijackers ...

yawn ....

[leesa]

50. No kidding. A sniff of crotch and Americans forget all about their

Constitutional rights just being thrown out the window by their Congress. Look how responsive those Democrats are!!!

[treestar]

51. Look at it this way

When it comes time to getting torturing Repukes out of Congress, Foley is a much better way to do it.

The sheeple don't understand the Constitution, but they understand scandal.