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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 09:07 AM
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Calif. GOP activist "giggles in court" about his own molestation charges.
It's raining boys. Molestation case against prominent Orange County GOP activist Jeffrey Ray Nielsen still drags on, more than 3 years after charges were originally filed. I guess it helps to have friends in positions of power and in the media in Orange County.

"During years of preliminary hearings after his arrest, Nielsen has shown little outward anxiety about the case. He’s routinely smiled and giggled in court with his father, Ben Nielsen, the former Republican mayor of Fountain Valley. To friends, Nielsen blamed the boy for seducing him after they met in an online gay chat room. He’s also told friends that the charges would be reduced or dismissed if the Orange County Weekly, which has attended dozens of hearings, would follow the lead of The Orange County Register and ignore the case. (In fact, the Register favorably mentioned Nielsen in September 2005 without telling readers that he’s an accused child molester.) In an April 2005 e-mail to his friends, Nielsen encouraged them not to cooperate with the Weekly’s investigation into the charges. Nielsen’s well-connected friends have strenuously lobbied this paper not to profile their pal."

http://www.ocweekly.com/news/news/our-thing/25902/
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 09:12 AM
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1. Wow - this article is a must-read
-snip-
Things have been looking up for accused child molester Jeffrey Ray Nielsen, the 36-year-old Christian conservative activist and lawyer with close ties to Republican Congressman Dana Rohrabacher and Scott Baugh, head of the Orange County Republican Party. Police say Nielsen took a 14-year-old Westminster boy as his sex partner in 2003 and maintained a huge cache of man-boy pornography.

But prosecutors have allowed their case against Nielsen, once an intern in the district attorney’s office, to stall for 40 months.

Ironically, those delays have provoked new sex-crime allegations. Saying he fears a subversion of justice, a northern Virginia man claims that Nielsen repeatedly molested him when he was an adolescent.

“For two years, when I was 13 and 14 years old, Jeff sexually abused me while he worked in Washington for Rohrabacher as a legislative aide,” the 25-year-old married man told the Weekly in a recent interview. “There was never any penetration, but other than that? Everything. He wrapped it all up as normal, as love.”
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 10:17 AM
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9. So, the Republican party really is the party of pedophiles
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:28 AM
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12. Foley and this guy aren't pedophiles
Adolescents aren't children (ped=child). These guys are predators.
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 12:23 PM
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16. legally what's the difference?
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 12:26 PM
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17. Yes, they are, and we need to hammer away at that. Relentlessly.
Under law, they are most certainly considered pedophiles.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 09:21 AM
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2. I don't understand why people don't do the one thing the did during all
the times of censorship. They posted stories and articles and whatever on fences, poles, where ever so that the passing public could see them. Stories that are being hidden from everyone could be passed around and exposed just by nailing them to a fence post or telephone pole. Like 'wanted posters' are found in the post office, warnings about people like this could be posted.

Too bad we don't have the same spirit that we had in the sixties. The young people would print 'underground newspapers'. I still have an old copy of one to remind me of what it was like when people all pulled together and fought against a corrupt system.

Maybe when the draft comes back...

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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 09:27 AM
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3. Especially when child molesters and sex offenders dominate the daily news
All we hear about. every day on the news, is which registered sex offender got released and where they are going to live and the people in that neighborhood protesting it and on and on and on... every day that's all they seem to talk about on the local TV news. Yet when it happens to someone with a lot of connections in politics and the media (the tight-knit Orange County conservative community) it's a complete media blackout, and nobody even knows it happened (unless they read alternative papers like the OC Weekly). But the endless parade of stories about other child molesters/sex offenders (the ones without the right connections) continues unabated.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 09:40 AM
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5. There are a lot of things we could all do. Handouts in poor
neighborhoods, post flyers like I said, form a group and print an little newspaper that tells the truth not spreads the lies.

The internet is fabulous but there's a whole untapped world out there. Computers are in millions of homes now but there are millions more that the web doesn't reach. And it we could or would take action, we'd find that audience and if we motivated even a small percentage of them to go to the polls in the larger cities, we'd really be doing something.

The Revolutionary War was promoted this way. They didn't have any nightly news reports to spread the news. Word of mouth and flyers. Newspapers couldn't print any criticism of the British government, that was treason (up until we won our independence).

There's a lot of stuff we can do.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 09:45 AM
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6. We have th Internet now
So we trade our stories with other members of the choir.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 09:50 AM
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7. And that's where you're fooling yourself. The internet is not the only
resource that we should be utilizing.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 02:53 PM
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20. This has nothing to do with what we should be doing.
It is what most of us ARE doing. e-mailing rants and feel-goods to each other as we carry on with our lives.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:48 AM
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14. go to freewayblogger.com if you want to do it with handbills...
start printing and buy a staple gun
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 09:31 AM
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4. Here's the link to the Weekly's earlier story - just amazing
It's from a year ago, filled with details about the investigation and also contains excerpts from e-mail exchanges between Nielsen's supporters and the reporter. Here are some other choice excerpts:

(Nielsen) reportedly abandoned his hard-line conservatism. Once a member of the ultraconservative Federalist Society, he’s joined a gay-friendly, liberal church in Laguna Beach, where he’s been making new friends who might serve as the usual character witnesses. He’s blamed his case on homophobia.

“Jeff has tearfully told everyone he can that he’s the victim,” said one of his Laguna acquaintances.

http://www.ocweekly.com/features/features/nambla-fantasy/18539/

It's just so....Republican.

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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 10:16 AM
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8. This is really two scandals in one.
One is that a member of a prominent, well-connected GOP family in deeply conservative Orange County is now an accused child molester. Whether he abandonded his conservativism or not would make for a third, minor scandal within that community. The second and even bigger scandal, to me, is the fact that the Orange County Register (easily the biggest media outlet in Orange County - definitely the biggest newspaper, and there are few TV stations in Orange County because it's considered part of the L.A. market and the L.A. stations take up most of the dial) - would simply ignore the story, only because it happened to a member of a prominent, well-connected family there. They are covering it up, rather than doing their job as journalists. If it weren't for the OC Weekly this story might have been lost in the mists of time.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 10:20 AM
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10. And we believe him, because he has money...um....because he's
a Kreestien.

Amazing what evil is more easily tolerated when God and the greenback are involved.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 10:36 AM
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11. He's trying to claim he's the victim, when he was the perpetrator. That
really burns me up. Does this guy have any sense or morality whatsoever, or is he a complete sociopath?
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:45 AM
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13. Yes, that's the frosting on the cake
And homophobia isn't the only excuse he makes for the charges against him.

In the article you linked to, Nielsen claimed the boy came onto him. It's true that adolescents can be seductive but Nielsen is an adult. Adolescents often make poor judgements, that's why there are laws to protect them. ADULTS are expected to control their behavior to protect adolescents.

This Nielsen creature is worse than Foley. At least Foley acknowledged he did wrong.

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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 12:55 PM
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18. For him to drag homophobia into it is clouding the issue, it's irrelevant
whether the victim was a boy or girl, really. He still did what he did and it's the same crime whether his victim was a boy or a girl. So for him to blame it on homophobia is just an attempt to throw a wrench into the machinery of the prosecution. The charges of pedophile porn on his computer would be the same whether the photos were man/boy or man/girl, right? It seems like the fact that the teenage victim was a boy doesn't matter - the crimes he is charged with would still be the same, wouldn't they?
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 12:01 PM
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15. He must have an "activist" judge!
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 12:58 PM
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19. And, the DA prosecutor handling the case is the wife of his friend!!!!
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