Rebellion in some Fed Agencies? How do we help it become strong?

[havocmom]

Previously posted as reply in another thread. Posting as OP at request of a DUer I respect. Posted in response to this question:

There have been rumors on the Internets that several Departments and Agencies of the Federal Government have begun to rebel against the Bush Administration. Two of the groups that are believed to be in this rebellion are the State Department and a part of the CIA.

So, my question is this:

What are WE doing to help this rebellion become strong?

We raise the level of public awareness - job one for DU

The good spooks and military officers who know an illegal order when they hear one move carefully. As more people learn the crimes of the junta, more info can be poured out to them.

There is a critical mass point. It is coming.

Go back to the inflamed rhetoric bush used lobbying for his get out of the Hague card legislation: He mentioned the need for "clarity" and went on about 'the young intelligence officer who needs that clarity'.

Buzzer went off in my head: There have been refusals to follow illegal orders! The whiny frat brat chicken hawk was not just looking for a get out of the Hague card, he wanted a stick to beat back a mutiny!

The not so civil war is raging in the US. It is starting to be noticeable.

There are many in public service who actually take it seriously, who take oaths to heart, who do it all in service to the Constitution. They are present in all agencies, known and not so known. They are fucking sick and tired of junta appointed department heads who got their jobs based on party loyalty and not on any skill, knowledge, experience. They do not serve the country, they serve Cheney's junta. The good guys are working against such department heads and working FOR America.

We have to back them up by making sure John Q. Public gets it and gets damned pissed about it all. We back them up by getting the truth out in such overwhelming waves the public is rocked from their comfortable delusions that 'somebody is taking care of it all and I can watch Desperate Housewives'.

We back them up by going down the paths they blaze and get others to see beyond the illusions.

The chess game is getting interesting. Cheney is in trouble and worried. You can tell by how hard they are making the puppet work of late.

[rzemanfl]

1. The real source of rebellion will come from the military and will

probably begin with mutinies in Iraq unless we take back Congress in November.

[havocmom]

2. Am thinking when junta says: DO IRAN, brass will say NO!

We don't have anything left for Iran, which is three times the size of Iraq, has a working military AND a unified national identity (which we see is missing in Iraq)

My big fear is the RW fundy xian zealots who have been running amok at the Air Force Academy will start a war with Iran from 45,000 feet, then leave it for the exhausted and depleted Army & Marines to deal with on the ground. It will assure Cheney's patrons continued profits. It will assure generations of warfare from all the ill will it created among other peoples. It will ensure Americans are so busy fighting for their lives, there and HERE, that we won't have time to keep after the criminals who have taken over in America

Am guessing my fear is shared by a lot of spooks and sane military leaders. I know it is shared by other servants of the public currently in federal employ and even in the employ of some of the Contractors making money from the mayhem Cheney has created for them to profit by.

[earth mom]

3. K & R!

(Sorry havocmom that I didn't see this thread earlier today, to K & R it sooner than this.) :hi:

[havocmom]

4. LOL told ya what would happen

like a rock ;)

[earth mom]

5. Well then, let's kick it again!

:kick:

[havocmom]

6. Yeah, maybe the weekday crowd will notice

:kick: