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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 04:30 PM
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Foley Guilty of Felony, so is Hastert, Others, PELOSI SMACKDOWN VIDEO!!
Edited on Sat Sep-30-06 05:29 PM by Dems Will Win
This has got to be the most emabarassing and humiliating set of blunders in Congressional history. First they pass a bill on child predators and the Internet, then one of them breaks the law--which is a felony--and his GOP peers allow him to stay on the job, in the bathrooms and in the hallways and on the Web. One real question is, DID FOLEY PREY ON ANY OTHER YOUNG MALE PAGES?

But mainly, dear friends, the Republican leadership all committed felonies according to the strict letter of the law called

the "Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act of 2006," which the President signed into law (with Mark Foley standing behind him). By definition, then, they consider the acts in which Foley apparently engaged to be criminal. They even enhanced the penalties for this conduct. For those purposes, it doesn't really matter what states have designated as the age of consent because House Republicans have declared it to be a federal crime to solicit or discuss sexual acts with someone under the age of 18.

http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2006/09/gop-house-leadership-and-mark-foley.html



Because Hastert and the others covered it up, did nothing and let him continue to work with and near the pages, they too would come under the same laws and increased penalties. Rep. Alexander did NOT report it to the proper authorities but rather to Tom Reynolds of the political RNCC! Because his staffer used to be a Foley staffer.

THIS IS HOW THE GOP KEPT THIS UNDER RAPS! Reynolds, Alexander, Hastert and Boehner are all guilty of NEVER REPORTING THIS TO THE PROPER AUTHORITIES. AND THEY ARE REQUIRED BY THE HOUSE RULES TO REPORT ANY CORRUPTION.

BONUS: Here is Nancy Pelosi's SMACKDOWN on Friday night! Winning her rcorded vote 410-0, after Boner Boehner tries to waylay it forever to the Ethics Committee! lOOK AT THE LOOK ON HER FACE WHEN SHE GETS UP TO DEMAND A RECORDED VOTE--SHE KNOWS SHE HAS THE REPUBLICANS BY THE BALLS--AND SHE IS DETERMINED TO PIN THEM TO THE WALL!

What a resolution that is--you have to see this:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/09/30/boehner-blocks-pelosis-investigation-resolution-surprise/

PLEASE RECOMMEND AND SHOW THIS VIDEO TO ONE AND ALL!

UPDATE: The media is reporting that Boehner's resolution passed 409-0 and the Ethics Committee gets it. Does anyone know what the truth is?

Now REynolds says he told Hastert about the e-mails in early 2006 and Hastert says he "doesn't recall"!

National Republican Congressional Committee Chairman Tom Reynolds (N.Y.) issued a statement Saturday in which he said that he had informed Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) of allegations of improper contacts between then-Rep. Mark Foley (R-Fla.) and at least one former male page, contradicting earlier statements from Hastert.

GOP sources said Reynolds told Hastert earlier in 2006, shortly after the February GOP leadership elections. Hastert's response to Reynolds' warning remains unclear.

Hastert's staff insisted Friday night that he was not told of the Foley allegations and are scrambling to respond to Reynolds' statement.

KOS: Dana Bash reporting Hastert has issued a statement and "doesn't recall" being told about this matter. The spin is they didn't know about the IM's so it didn't seem so serious. Of course, CNN is absorbing that spin seamlessly, instead of saying Republican leadership didn't investigate.


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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 04:34 PM
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1. DID FOLEY PREY ON ANY OTHER YOUNG MALE PAGES?
that's the 64 dollar question, this most likely is the first time Folie managed to get caught.
This is where Pelosi is the lead point on getting this thing investigated- uno-pronto!
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:38 PM
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22. It is said that he did.
And that the "leadership" knew about it and kept quiet.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 04:36 PM
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2. I can't find it. The link only goes to Crooks and Liars
not Pelosi and I can't find her on the page. Where should I be looking???
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 04:39 PM
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3. Here
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 04:42 PM
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4. here's a permalink
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 04:49 PM
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5. A culture of corruption and molestation...
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 04:57 PM
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6. they booed her when she said "as a mother and a grandmother"
what do the republicans have against mothers and grandmothers?
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 04:59 PM
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7. Mark Foley; "The bitch set me up"...
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 05:17 PM
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8. This happened in 2005
Foley did the deed in 2005. I guess it was legal to send perverted IMs to minors before the "Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act of 2006".
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 06:02 PM
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15. Oh hell call the kid an enemy combatant and "haze" him. I'm sure Mark
and his buds can make it retroactively legal. Right?
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 01:08 PM
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19. Weird, this act is the only one ex post facto law I can think of...
Read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Walsh_Child_Protection_and_Safety_Act

And since the Congressman is the one who put that in there, he might not be able to argue against it in court. So while it is unconstitutional, it might not actually be overturned because appeals could be denied!!!
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AIJ Alom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 05:17 PM
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9. Thank you for posting about this act. Looks like troubled times ahead for
the soon to be former Republican majority.
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G Hawes Donating Member (440 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 05:24 PM
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10. Great job on the recorded vote.
And nice post.

But I don't think that these parts are accurate:

the Republican leadership all committed felonies according to the strict letter of the law...


Because Hastert and the others covered it up, did nothing and let him continue to work with and near the pages, they too would come under the same laws and increased penalties.


I've read the Act and it doesn't change the mandatory reporting rules. While the Republican leadership could certainly be held liable in negligence if they were sued civilly by the youth, I doubt that they could be held liable under the Act.


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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 05:44 PM
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14. Here's the crux of the matter, the leadership knew about
Edited on Sat Sep-30-06 05:45 PM by Dems Will Win
Foley and knew of the emails asking for a picture--seems innocuous--but when you look at the email string IT INCLUDES THE PAGE'S RESPONSE OF "SICK SICK SICK" AND OTHER COMMENTS.

This is a true warning sign and the authorities should have been called in to investigate. They weren't. This is ading and abetting--even if just for political purposes. Especially since it is the US House and the young pages, the House rule to reveal corruption and the foreknowledge of a sex offense having been committed are particularly an obvious flouting of the law.

Here are the e-mails:









In short, it's obvious the kid was upset, and that he was "freaked out". That was enough to call for an investigation BUT:

Dana Bash reporting Hastert has issued a statement and "doesn't recall" being told about this matter. The spin is they didn't know about the IM's so it didn't seem so serious. Of course, CNN is absorbing that spin seamlessly, instead of saying Republican leadership didn't investigate.

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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 07:49 PM
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16. THE DEMS WERE NEVER TOLD
Isn't that Obstruction of Justice or aiding and abetting at that point? The GOP head never told the PAGE BOARD!
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 05:29 PM
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11. Wow,strong stuff. Give Republicans one thing, they sure can keep a secret,
albeit a DIRTY one. They knew this was going on since last year and kept in from Dems.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 05:35 PM
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12. Ha! Smackdown!
Take that you fascist bastards!!!!!!!
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 05:40 PM
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13. It appears that Dennis Hastert was fully aware of Folie sexscapades...
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 01:00 PM
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17. kick
:kick:
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 01:04 PM
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18. There we go, I have been pecking around for this...
on LII, and couldn't find anything. GOOD JOB GLENN!!!
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 01:09 PM
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20. MSM goes silent on 5 pagesstepping forward story, must be pretty bad
Hastert & Boner fighting to lose implications
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dickthegrouch Donating Member (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:45 PM
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21. Why the @#$&*(#@$ didn't they call the POLICE?
Everyone who knew about this is GUILTY of

Giving safe harbour to a CRIMINAL.

Aiding and abetting the commission of a crime.

The stink of Corruption permeates the whole damned lot of them.

Law and Order party - blech
I demand those new laws be applied equally
Moral right - double blech
Put them in the system they created: Federal prison, general population; and see how loud they scream.



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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:59 PM
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23. Hastert's office: "No one knew of sexual e-mails" duh!
Rep. Tom Reynolds, had "known about the situation for months and did nothing about it."

House Democratic leader Rep. Nancy Pelosi released a letter on Sunday in which she called on the House Ethics Committee to begin an immediate investigation into when Republican leaders knew of the allegations against Foley.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/10/01/foley.quits/index.html
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 04:09 PM
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24. How many other pages were put
in jeopardy due to the failure to investigate and expose this from the get go? If a high school hid this, didn't report it to authorities and allowed a teacher to continue working with kids they'd big in BIG doo. These are high school kids for cripes sake!
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