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G2099 Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 06:56 PM
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Beijing secretly fires lasers to disable US satellites
China has secretly fired powerful laser weapons designed to disable American spy satellites by "blinding" their sensitive surveillance devices, it was reported yesterday.

The hitherto unreported attacks have been kept secret by the Bush administration for fear that it would damage attempts to co-opt China in diplomatic offensives against North Korea and Iran.

Sources told the military affairs publication Defense News that there had been a fierce internal battle within Washington over whether to make the attacks public. In the end, the Pentagon's annual assessment of the growing Chinese military build-up barely mentioned the threat.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/09/26/wchina226.xml
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 07:00 PM
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1. This could threaten Sino Walmart relations. Very dangerous.n/t
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 07:01 PM
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2. That really is fascinating....I wonder if it's true? I also wonder if
the Chinese have satellites that can spy on us....couldn't we just fire on them?
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 01:38 AM
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20. It's The Telegraph -- a most unreliable source with an agenda
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 07:02 PM
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3. Ever since China captured that plane and sent it back in pieces
Bush hasn't had the balls to take on a really big dog. Ever the bully, he's much more content picking on the Iraqs, Koreas and Venezuelas of the world.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 07:03 PM
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4. the truth is they just want to keep Walmart in cheap chinese shit..!!
Edited on Sat Sep-30-06 07:04 PM by sam sarrha
cant sell out the rest of the economy to china if we get pissed and boycott them.. and the Olympics
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LiberalArkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 07:16 PM
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5. The truth is there is not a damn thing the US can do any more.
Think of what life would be over here if China cut off trade with the U.S.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 07:18 PM
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6. Or called in the debt. They own our asses
thanks to bushco deficit.
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:12 PM
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7. I say - lets bomb all the factories!!
Ooops - nevermind.
We would be sitting here without lightbulbs, electronic equipment needed to run military hardware, shower curtains, cookware, clothing, toys, vases, tools, furniture, bedding, office equipment, dishes, glassware, silverware, water jugs, curtains, radios, garden supplies, tires, lamps, hair supplies,......... etc
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:16 PM
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11. but we're knee deep in assholes!!
Bummer about comparative advantage.
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:23 PM
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14. LOL...........
yeah - that whole thinking ahead can be so boring.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:14 PM
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8. We still have a couple thousand more nukes than they do...
so I doubt they will go much further. But this just moved the doomsday clock ahead a couple of hours. THIS IS SERIOUS!
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:15 PM
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9. According to our "intelligence". In reality, we really don't know
how many they have.
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 01:50 AM
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21. Naw, you lot have Hydrogen ones. (Well, deuterium actually),
and lots of them.

Building a nuke like that is not easily hidden. For example, when the Manhatten Project did the step in the process where they purify by isotope, it needed more power than Manhatten itself.

:)

But yes, you don't really know how many they have.

But if you wanted to make as many as America has (why on earth would you even need to do that) then it would be some task keeping it secret.

Making a few would be much easier, of course. :)

Or in summary, they could have very many, but it is unlikely they would have anywhere near as many as you.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:23 PM
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13. This is the result of our failed Iraq policy...
by weakening the military these communist dogs have decided to take us down. After deeper thought, this is a very dangerous thing we have just learned about. One has to wonder if the Chinese will be willing to attack our civilian spacecraft as well. Our GPS satellites could be at risk, and without them our new modern military is basically shit. Our communications satellites would also be at risk. GOD THIS IS NOT GOOD!
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:15 PM
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10. There's really nothing that can be done; China owns the US in many ways
We gave them our factories for cheaper products, but what is cheap? The cost of living continues to rise anyway, but at least the corporations got bigger profit margins now. :sarcasm:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:22 PM
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12. Looks like bullshit to me....
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&ncl=http://www.americanthinker.com/comments.php%3Fcomments_id%3D6247

Those are the only sources google news has, and they don't fill me with confidence.

On the other hand, I'm SURE all the folks here would do due diligence, and not just believe & report everything they read uncritically, so that means you all must have more knowledge of what sources are trustworthy than I do.

So I'll accept your educated responsible word for it - and start screaming like a melodramatic maniac at the Chinese lasering us.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:25 PM
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15. I think it is all too plausible and matches up China's espionage...
and recent military build-up. This is what happens when you play nice with people who have enslaved millions of individuals. Definitely not good.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 10:17 PM
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18. You're a genius. That's the best evidence I've EVER heard. EVER.
"I think it is all too plausible"

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 01:51 AM
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22. Plausible does not equal real.
And lasers like this really would be something!
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:40 PM
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16. Of course the other story is that we never learned of this agression...
because that little piece of at 1600 penn. ave. would piss off all the pukes who like a strong defense.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 09:38 PM
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17. W/O drop shipping from Chinese factories Ebay closes down & all the jobs
selling on Ebay (new sales persons estimated as 400,000 jobs) created under Bush from the folks laid off under Bush will disappear.

There is no way Bush will respond to Chinese actions with more than silence - he has already "cut and run" - indeed try to think of even one Bush foreign policy success ????
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 10:22 PM
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19. China has been cleaning our clock
since the day bush slithered into office, in every way there is.

If they ever call in our foreign debt alone or sell it, we're hamburger.
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