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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:36 PM
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GINGRICH: Repubs Would Of Been Accused Of 'Gay Bashing' If Too Aggressive
Gingrich: House Leadership Would Have Been Accused Of ‘Gay Bashing’ If They Investigated Foley ‘Overly Aggressively’

This morning on Fox News Sunday, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich excused the House leadership for their apparent cover-up of Mark Foley’s predatory behavior. Gingrich said the emails seen by House leadership were “relatively innocuous, there was nothing sexual in those notes.” Asked if there should be “second thoughts” about the leadership’s conduct, Gingrinch responded:

Well, you could have second thoughts about it, but I think had they overly aggressively reacted to the initial round, they would have also been accused of gay bashing.

VIDEO & TRANSCRIPT: http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/01/newt-foley/
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:37 PM
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1. erm, no, PEDOPHILE bashing maybe.
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:46 PM
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15. and serial sexual abuser bashing maybe
considering these boys were pages and Foley was a
prominent republican congressman.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:37 PM
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2. here we go again-Newt trying to change the subject.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:37 PM
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3. You have got to be kidding me. So that's their excuse for
Edited on Sun Oct-01-06 02:38 PM by babylonsister
letting this despicable behavior slide? Now I've heard everything...
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:37 PM
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4. Newt: Once a pig, always a pig.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:39 PM
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5. He will make excuses for every act the Criminal Repugs do..
Edited on Sun Oct-01-06 02:40 PM by MadMaddie
And since when do they care about being perceived as "Gay Bashers"!! That's been their story line for 6 years....why stop now?:sarcasm:
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:40 PM
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6. They certainly gay-bashed with the anti-marriage amendment
when have they not gay bashed???? That excuse won't fly, Newt.
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:42 PM
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8. Yeah, WTF? The Rethugs REVEL in gay bashing! nt
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:46 PM
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16. Just like they revel in bullying everyone else
methinks, I smell a cover-up
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Tanuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:40 PM
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7. Gingrich is obviously the designated stalking horse on this
since he is no longer in the House and has no personal accountability. He'll call in his markers later.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:44 PM
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9. The term
Horse Hockey comes to mind... Gay Bashing? Oh, come on that's better than 50% of their noise machine. It's just because it is one of theirs.. Spin, spin, spin....
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:44 PM
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10. He's part of the cover up
He knows that we know he's involved, and he's on the offensive. Probably he himself
has been boinking the pages, docking his ferry, visiting the space station, yea right, newt.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:44 PM
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11. Well the e-mails were certainly explicit.
Asking the boy about masturbation, saying he wanted to take the boy's clothes off. Then talking about the boy's butt and legs. Then asking the kid to measure his genitalia. How could you find that "relatively innocuous"? There is more going on than what is being said. Bunch of fat old guys getting off on little kids. I think a bunch of the repukes are involved in a little pedophile ring and they are afraid it will get out. I bet Foley disappears.
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joemurphy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:45 PM
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12. When have Republicans EVER been worried about gay-
bashing? Shit. That's their favorite meme.

So Hastert would have acted immediately if the kid was a 16-year old girl instead of a 16-year old boy? Give me a break, Newt. Go crawl back into your salamandrine litte hole and hibernate. Piece of shit!
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:45 PM
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13.  I'm kind of relieved today--

this and others lines of defense sound pretty shallow. Guess the usual 30% of "we, the people" will buy it, maybe no more. I sense fear in the GOP.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:45 PM
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14. Foley KNEW the pages were MINORS--that makes it a CRIME
Edited on Sun Oct-01-06 02:50 PM by rocknation
Not that YOU'D understand anything like that, you dead pundit walking!!!

:headbang:
rocknation
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:47 PM
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17. "Nothing SEXUAL?????" What the fuck is wrong with Republicans?
Are these the same people that thought that the end of America was nigh because Bill Clinton got a blowjob?
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:50 PM
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19. he was just sending lewd offensive e-mail to 16 years olds
because he wanted them for his memoirs????
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:28 PM
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32. This video was very sexual but the coverup
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:47 PM
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18. Nice try, Newt.
Now run along and find yourself yet another wife.
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The Deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:51 PM
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20. This Would Be
Newt "I like getting a hummer in a Hummer" Gingrich? Newt "Deadbeat Dad" Gingrich? Newt "I served divorce papers on my wife while she was in a hospital bed recovering from cancer surgery" Gringrich?
Yeah, well, at least he's not a pedophile, I guess - just a serial adulterer.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:55 PM
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21. Once again, it's time to...
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:58 PM
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22. Did ol' Newt just officially out Mark Foley?
That's a new one...
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:58 PM
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23. OK Newt, what if
a high school teacher or principal had sent an email to one of his students asking him if he was horny? Do you think that firing the individual, investigating him, prosecuting him would be 'gay bashing'? You have kids, Newt; would want that done to them?

Hypocrite. Thy name is Republican.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:59 PM
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24. and no doubt Chris Wallace gives him a pass on it. Idiots
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:00 PM
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25. So Gingrich is, in a sense, outing Foley......
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:03 PM
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26. Full transcript:
Full transcript:

WALLACE: Speaker Gingrich, did House Republican leaders do all they should have?

GINGRICH: Well, I think if you look at what they actually knew, which was that the family did not want anyone involved, and the actual notes were relatively innocuous, there was nothing sexual in those notes. They had him counseled. They had the head of the page program, Congressman Shimkus, talk to him very directly. And I think they thought it was over. The newest incident only surfaced when ABC News interviewed Foley and he resigned within two hours, or I think the House leaders would have moved to expel him.

WALLACE: But, during all those months, they left Foley in the House Republican leadership. They left him as the head of the congressional caucus dealing with exploited children. No second thoughts about that?

GINGRICH: Well, you could have second thoughts about it, but I think had they overly aggressively reacted to the initial round, they would have also been accused of gay bashing. I mean, the original notes had no sexual innuendo and the parents did not want any action taken.

WALLACE: Well, how would it have been gay bashing?

GINGRICH: Because it was a male-male relationship. And it had no — there was no proof, there was nothing that I know of in that initial round that would have led you to say in a normal circumstance that this is a predatory person.
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VeggieTart Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:08 PM
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27. Nothing sexual in these notes?!
WTF?! Talking about taking off clothes and masturbating isn't sexual? WTF?!

And as had been said ad nauseum, when have the Repukes been worried about gay bashing? If they were worried about gay bashing, they wouldn't be pushing all these bills to deny same-sex couples marital benefits.

Plus, there's a big fat fucking difference between a homosexual and a pedophile, and it's clear these idiots can't tell.
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:12 PM
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28. Since when have Republicans ever worried about being seen as gay-bashers?
They take pride in it
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:14 PM
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29. That's LAME!
Better luck next time, Newtie.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:26 PM
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30. What Newt says is irrelevant, and we do not hear his words.
Don't forget, people, that newt has a track record of saying anything, ANYTHING, that he thinks will give "his team" a tactical advantage. He's repeatedly demonstrated that actual truth has no bearing on what comes out of his mouth (or pen).

There are fewer more reliable warnings of "bullshit shoveling in progress" than the phrase "Newt Gingrich said:"
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:26 PM
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31. Nothing Sexual?
"Is that making you horny?" isn't considered sexual???
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:36 PM
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38. It is when I say it...
Ba-da-bing!!

Thank you ladies and gentlemen. I'm Jeff in Milwaukee and I'll be here all week.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:31 PM
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33. See Foley is not a pedophile. He is just gay
Newt says so.

Don
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:33 PM
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34. What IS IT with these stupid REPUKES?
Somehow to these assholes "gay" and "pedophile" are synonymous? What gives with that? I swear, I have never seen a bunch of people who are sooooooooo sexually uninformed and mixed up. What? They skipped Sex Ed classes in High School or something?

Geeeeeeeeez, Loooooooooooooou-ise!! I wish to hell they would get a clue about this and sooooooooo many other things! Fucking idiots!

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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:33 PM
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35. When I heard this I laughed my ass off!
Imagine, Newt Gingrich giving a crap about gay-bashing! :rofl:
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:33 PM
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36. Never stopped them before.
:shrug:

--IMM
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:34 PM
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37. OMG!!
What an ignorant, not to mention INSENSITIVE thing to say!!
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:41 PM
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39. WTF?!
I see they are already spinning the "gay = pedophile" meme! :puke:
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:42 PM
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40. Gay Bashing? Newt, stay on page, we're talking about predators
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 07:18 PM
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42. "stay on page"? Ba dum bum!
Nice entendre!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:44 PM
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41. Bullshit
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