Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Zelikow Left Damning Info Out of 9/11 Report. Rice Must Be Fired!

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU
 
KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:01 PM
Original message
Zelikow Left Damning Info Out of 9/11 Report. Rice Must Be Fired!
Philip Zelikow left out the fact Rice met with Tenet about Al Qaida and was warned (just as Woodward says in his book, I believe).

That's right, the CIA director warned Rice and she did nothing.

Rice must be fired or at least investigated.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:03 PM
Response to Original message
1. This is why they WH put Zelikow in charge
Edited on Mon Oct-02-06 07:13 PM by DoYouEverWonder
They needed a gatekeeper at the 9-11 Commission to screen what they could see and what they couldn't see.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:12 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. Precisely! Hell, Bush & Co. had Kissinger to chair the whole thing!
Remember??
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:15 PM
Response to Reply #3
5. Fortunately, the Kissinger idea went over like a lead balloon
Interesting to find out from Woodward how much a part of this misadministration Kissinger really is. The old man is a psycho.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 08:24 PM
Response to Reply #1
13. It is so damn frustrating to have known exactly
what was going on YEARS AGO, and now its "news". Who amongst us did NOT realize what Zelikow's function was..

:shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:09 PM
Response to Original message
2. Various groups lobbied to have Zelikow removed because of
his long time relationship with both Bush Presidents. He was on the Bush II transition team and was in the first meetings with Clinton staff and Clark. He should have been on the witness list and not on the bench.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:14 PM
Response to Original message
4. Reading Kristen Breitweiser book explained it for me.
I am just reading her book right now and one of the major points that she makes is the Philip Zelikow was made "executive staff director".

She says that she never trusted him from the beginning.

Here is just one paragraph that she describes his duties and her perception:

"While the commissioners were the public face of the commission, the real work was carried out behind the scenes by the staff-and there were about eighty staff members who were divided up into each of the key areas. Zelikow was in charge of those eighty staffers and the entire course of the commission's investigation. He would be the commission's gatekeeper; all information that ended up in the final report was there only because Zelikow thought it should be there. In essence, the story told by the 9/11 commission became the story that Zelikow wanted to tell. And that made me exceedingly uncomfortable right from the beginning."

If you have not read this book you should. And we all should be demanding a new investigation as she does in her book.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:21 PM
Response to Reply #4
7. Absolute power corrupts absolutely
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:42 PM
Response to Reply #4
8. Finished her book last week. Been thinking about her
since the 60 Minute Interview. Hope she shows up on some talk shows. I worry about her - how long can one person keep up this fight. I guess in her case - as long as it takes.

So sad to find out she has lupus.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 08:26 PM
Response to Reply #4
14. Very good.
I used that book as a reference in a discussion about the Woodward information a few hours ago.Zelikow is a key player here.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 09:16 PM
Response to Reply #4
17. Thanks, Jeanette in FL. Your post deserves its own thread.
Zelikow wanted to tell the story. Thanks to Tenet and Black, we have another story. I'd say theirs is much closer to the true story.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dave502d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:20 PM
Response to Original message
6. Did Zelikow and Rice work together for bush 1 or raygun ?n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 08:01 PM
Response to Original message
9. Is it too late to send roses to Chris Wallace?
So very glad that we're airing the dirty laundry, finally!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 08:14 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. !
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Roses for Chris Wallace! I can see him now standing behind many vases of roses purchased for him by DUers inspired by his courageous journalism... Just like Helen Thomas.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 08:09 PM
Response to Original message
10. the families fought this guy being on commission!Philip Zelikow
he had conflicts up the asshole..he was on transition team of condi into white house ..he helped her write 2 books ...and the families fought him being on the commission..he had no business on the commission..and he was one of only 2 that were the gatekeepers of the documents in the white house..he and Gorlich...

so this is no suprise..he did the job he was put on the commission for..he kept damning info out of the report..that was why pissy pants and cheney put him on that commission..so their would be omissions!

he was objected to vehemently by the Jersey wives and many of the widows..and widowers! and family members!

fly
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 08:17 PM
Response to Original message
12. Thank Goodness Keith O. picked up this thought. McLauglin also said
as much this weekend on his show. Fire Rice
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 08:27 PM
Response to Original message
15. Yum.... Fried Rice!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 09:12 PM
Response to Original message
16. See What Zelikow Said about the 93 WTC bombing
(a little off topic sorry)


"In the November-December 1998 issue of Foreign Affairs, he co-authored an article entitled “Catastrophic Terrorism,” in which he speculated that if the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center had succeeded, “the resulting horror and chaos would have exceeded our ability to describe it. Such an act of catastrophic terrorism would be a watershed event in American history. It could involve loss of life and property unprecedented in peacetime and undermine America’s fundamental sense of security, as did the Soviet atomic bomb test in 1949. Like Pearl Harbor, the event would divide our past and future into a before and after. The United States might respond with draconian measures scaling back civil liberties, allowing wider surveillance of citizens, detention of suspects and use of deadly force. More violence could follow, either future terrorist attacks or U.S. counterattacks. Belatedly, Americans would judge their leaders negligent for not addressing terrorism more urgently.”"
http://www.foreignaffairs.org/19981101faessay1434/ashton-b-carter-john-deutch-philip-zelikow/catastrophic-terrorism-tackling-the-new-danger.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_D._Zelikow


Gee what a fortune teller...He said that in 1998, was he looking back or projecting forward?


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov 03rd 2024, 07:20 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC