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antiimperialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-07-06 07:10 PM Original message |
Paper trail DOES NOTHING to avoid fraud |
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rzemanfl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-07-06 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
1. They allow a recount. That's what's important. n/t |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-07-06 07:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. No it doesn't. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-07-06 07:21 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. Please elaborate - What kind of system are you referring to? |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 05:11 AM Response to Reply #20 |
25. And how do you know what is printed on that strip is |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 08:52 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. The strip prints about 10 lines at a time in a window you can see |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-07-06 07:27 PM Response to Reply #12 |
24. It depends on the system. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 08:53 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Same with the touch-screen system I used |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-07-06 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
2. I think I'll believe Andy. Thanks anyway. |
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highnooner (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-07-06 07:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. I voted using an ES&S machine. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-07-06 07:22 PM Response to Reply #8 |
21. Your poll worker sounds like a complete dufus |
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New Earth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-07-06 07:16 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. that's what he's saying |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 05:43 AM Response to Reply #13 |
26. yes, paper ballots n/t |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 08:55 AM Response to Reply #13 |
30. Paper ballots have always been vulnerable to tampering |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-07-06 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
3. umm, it's the little paper in the precincts' hands that matter, not in your |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-07-06 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
4. Hahahahahah.... |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-07-06 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
5. You're right if you're talking about a little receipt. |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-07-06 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
6. True. What we need is an extremely transparent process so that |
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July (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-07-06 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
7. Uh-huh. Thanks for playing. nt |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-07-06 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
9. Thanks for your opinion ... |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-07-06 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
10. Thanks for playing. What's the point of this thread, anyway? nt |
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WHEN CRABS ROAR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-07-06 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
11. I voted in Oregon |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-07-06 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
14. besides, paper can be burnt and then where are you? |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-07-06 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
15. True. Let's eliminate the computers in this process. |
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New Earth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-07-06 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
16. are you referring to a 'trail' as in a "receipt"? |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-07-06 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
17. You don't understand. The paper stays with the machine. |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-07-06 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
18. First of all... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-07-06 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
19. Substitute "paper ballot" for "paper trail" and you end up the same place |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 05:45 AM Response to Reply #19 |
27. But there is a ballot to recount |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 08:56 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. What I am referring to isn't a receipt |
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stop the bleeding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-07-06 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
22. helps to certify elections with an added method for integrity, not fool-proof |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-07-06 07:23 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Secret ballots preclude any kind of fool-proof system |
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NVMojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
32. I believe the fraud committed in 04 in NV on Sequoias has been repeated |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 11:41 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Have you seen any actual evidence of that? |
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