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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 08:09 AM
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20,000 protesting School of the Americas at Ft. Benning today


Many more around the world. It'd be nice to get this in front of the new Congress.

http://www.soaw.org/new/
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 08:19 AM
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1. kick & recommended
:kick:
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 08:25 AM
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2. Please, that name is so Orwellian
The name sounds like a get-together convention to solve the hemisphere's problems.

Really, the school should be called "the school for dictators."
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LA lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 08:29 AM
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3. The name was changed in 2001
It is now called the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation.

Benning is a closed post as I recall, will they be able to get anywhere near it?
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 09:48 AM
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7. like calling a sow's ear a silk purse.
I know folks get arrested every year at these protests trying to get near it.
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 10:01 AM
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8. yep. what a joke.
from 2001:
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines01/0524-02.htm


the 88 yr old Nun was dangerous, she had to be locked up. :eyes:
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 08:52 AM
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4. Growing in awareness every year.
It would be nice to spread something besides terror. We are the ENEMY! Talk about ugly Americans, call for Negroponte...
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 09:00 AM
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5. God bless Bo Marlow and his family
Robert RS Marlow - family man and president of UAW local 882 in Atlanta GA. He worked tirelessly for economic and social justice. He was a servant to everyone he knew and people he didn't know. Getting rid of School of the Americas was important to him. And while my health wouldn't allow me to go this year, I did my part. And will do it every year. For Bo. For the cause.

I miss you Bo. We all do.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 09:32 AM
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6. A few years ago, high schoolers from my area were arrested and jailed
at the SOA protest. The story of what happened to them in jail was simply horrible -- a girl and a boy -- the girl said she was treated better than he had been, and she had been put to work making the equivalent of "wire mesh dog crates" for prisoners. We can all pretend, close our eyes to reality, or we can do something about the ongoing nightmares.

:grr:
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 10:38 AM
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10. They would have to tase me to death before I
would make cages for other prisoners in the short period between arrest and bonding out.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 12:55 PM
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18. No - you made an incorrect assumption -- they weren't held for
a few days, they were tried and jailed for months. He was in for about 9 months and she for about 4-6 months. Something happened after they were arrested - and they took action for another person who had been arrested who was being treated badly - and they wound up in jail for months. Sorry I don't recall the details. I just remember thinking how out of touch with the reality of "prison" I was.

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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 10:08 AM
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9. The Death Squads March On
It literally makes me sick to my stomach.



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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 10:55 AM
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11. I know.
:hug:

and a :kick: to put this on the new Congressional agenda...
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 11:00 AM
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12. Great!
That's a good sized protest. I wish the media would provide coverage.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 11:03 AM
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13. local (Atlanta) morning news actually had a short item this morning.
I about fell out of my chair. :thumbsup:
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Tuesday_Morning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 11:21 AM
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14. Some excellent slideshows of the protests
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 12:32 PM
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15. At 11:25, 19 people went under the fence and
were arrested. If it is their first offence, they will probably spend 3 or 6 months in federal prison.
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 12:42 PM
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16. McGovern and others have been trying to get this place closed for years
The closest they've come to getting the bill passed was in 1999. McGovern tried again this year, couldn't get the bill to the floor for a vote.

The current bill has 134 co-sponsors and is stuck in committee (note - if link doesn't work, search for HR1217)
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d109:4:./temp/~bdsxvI::|/bss/d109query.html|
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 12:44 PM
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17. Great
It's nice to see that the school's activities are becoming more publicized. Maybe the new Congress can get it shut down completely?
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 01:51 PM
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20. 20 SOA supporters lost their seats in Congress.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 02:04 PM
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21. good deal.
Hope that means that this will get a hearing in this Congress.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 01:43 PM
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19. School of the Americas Graduate Responsible for Priest Murders Found in U.S.
WASHINGTON – The shocking event that galvanized opposition to the U.S. relationship with Central American death squads and that sparked the movement to close the U.S. Army School of the Americas is making headlines again. Former Salvadoran army officer Gonzalo Guevara Cerritos, convicted for the 1989 murder of six Jesuit priests, a housekeeper and her 14-year-old daughter, was arrested by federal agents on October 18 in Los Angeles, California.

Gonzalo Guevara Cerritos, a sub-lieutenant in the notorious Atlacatl Battalion, took part in the November 16, 1989 massacre at the Central American University (UCA) in San Salvador. Less than a year before the brutal killings, Guevara Cerritos received military training at the U.S. Army School of the Americas in Ft. Benning, Georgia.

A United Nations Truth Commission cited 26 Salvadoran officers for the 1989 "execution-style" massacre. Nineteen of those, including Guevara Cerritos, were trained at the School of the Americas, renamed in 2001 the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation or WHINSEC. After its role in training human rights abusers came to light, Central Americans frequently dubbed the SOA the "School of Assassins.”

The SOA made headlines again in 1996 when the Pentagon released training manuals used at the school that advocated torture, extortion and execution. Despite this shocking admission and hundreds of documented human rights abuses connected to soldiers trained at the institution, no independent investigation into the training facility has ever taken place.


more - http://www.soaw.org/new/pressrelease.php?id=119
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 02:17 PM
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22. Kick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and R'd
:toast:
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 02:19 PM
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23. And our local hero, Fr. Bill O' Donnell, is there in spirit.
Father Bill, Presente!
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 03:20 PM
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24. And Wesley Clark still believes in the SOA
I simply do not understand why he does.
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 08:13 PM
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31. Clark's position condemning SOA abuses....

On the Issues
Statement of General Wesley Clark on the School of the Americas
(now known as the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation)

I strongly condemn human rights abuses of any kind. Throughout my career, I have fought to protect the fundamental rights of all people and to promote democratic values that empower people to prevent abuses of power and combat them when they occur.

It is unacceptable that some who passed through the School of the Americas (now known as the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation) committed human rights abuses. Those that did should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law - as should all who commit war crimes or crimes against humanity. In order to prevent such abuses from happening in the future, we must promote a policy of engagement and education with friends and allies in the region.

I strongly support the reforms that have been implemented at WHISC and encourage careful vetting of students. I strongly support oversight measures that ensure that antidemocratic principles are not taught at the school. Thanks to the work of human rights campaigners and others, WHISC is constantly improving the way it teaches the Army's values of respect for human rights, for civil institutions, and for dissent.

http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:EUsQZkGpITsJ:www.clark04.com/issues/soa/+wesley+clark+school+of+the+americas&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=3
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 12:02 AM
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33. This is about more than "abuses"--it is about what the damn school is FOR--
--which happens to be training a Latin American elite in the ways and means of keeping most of their citizens poor and subservient to international corporations. That Clark wants them to be nicer in pursuit of this goal this doesn't mean diddlysquat--it is the goal itself that is reprehensible.
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 12:13 AM
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35. Where did you hear that about him....WSWS.org?
Edited on Mon Nov-20-06 12:40 AM by guruoo
:rofl:
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 02:05 AM
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38. It's what SOA is about, like it or not
Red baiting doesn't change basic facts. What in the hell else would you think armies would be for on a continent where there are almost never military conflicts between actual countries? Where I hear this stuff is from the torture victims of Latin America who always show up at the yearly demonstrations.
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 09:22 AM
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40. Doesn't mean it always has to be about that
Clark has indicated that he wants to change fundamental
policy reg. SOA.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 11:59 PM
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41. I can't think of any good reason for the existence of such a place
There are no South American countries that need armies, as Costa Rica (probably the best place to live in Central America) realized long ago. South American armies have mainly been used against their own populations--the poor majority thereof anyway. Neither Clark nor anybody else has ever offered a meaningful explanation of why such a place is necessary.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 12:06 AM
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34. WTF?
Even in the article you presented, he's still defending it!

"Thanks to the work of human rights campaigners and others, WHISC (SOA) is constantly improving the way it teaches the Army's values of respect for human rights, for civil institutions, and for dissent."

He's praising it, not condeming it.
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 12:17 AM
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36. Taken out of context
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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 12:08 AM
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42.  Clark “Proud” of SOA
General Wesley Clark on Defensive on School of the Americas (SOA/WHISC), Once Under His Command

Clark “Proud” of SOA/WHISC, Downplays Atrocities

From June 1996 to July 1997, General Clark served as Commander of the US Southern Command, where he was responsible for US military activities concerning Latin America, including the School of the Americas (SOA), now known as the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation (WHISC). On Sept. 20, 1996, Pentagon officials admitted that SOA manuals used from 1982 to 1991 advocated the use of torture, extortion, and extrajudical executions against dissidents in Latin America. The New York Times wrote "an institution so clearly out of tune with American values should be shut down without further delay."

On December 16, 1996, a few months after the Pentagon admission of the torture manuals, Clark visited the SOA, not to demand accountability but to give a commencement speech at an SOA graduation ceremony. Six years later and still, no one has been held accountable for the use of the torture manuals at the SOA. The SOA trained death squad leaders, assassins and military dictators. Its graduates were found responsible for some of the worst human rights atrocities in Latin America, including the El Mozote massacre of more than 900 civilians in El Salvador in 1980, the murder of Guatemalan Bishop Juan Gerardi in 1998 and of Colombian Archbishop Isaías Duarte in 2002.

At almost every campaign stop, Gen. Clark is facing critical questions concerning his connection to the SOA and his continued unpopular support of the school. Asked about his continued support of the SOA during an event in Manchester, NH, on Dec. 19, 2003, Clark responded, " I’m not going to have been in charge of a school that I can’t be proud of." In reaction to a question asked in Concord, NH, about the torture manuals Clark stated: "We're teaching police procedures and human rights . . . never taught torture." Despite cosmetic changes, the SOA remains a combat training school that teaches Latin American soldiers commando tactics, psychological operations, sniper and other military skills. Its graduates continue to be linked to massacres and other crimes.

http://www.soaw.org/new/pressrelease.php?id=61
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bobbie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 06:39 AM
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39. That's a vulnerable area for him
I hope he addresses it satisfactorily
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 03:21 PM
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25. LOTS of Boston College students and Jesuits are down there, many are my friends
God speed friends! :kick:
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 04:07 PM
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26. We are paying the millions of dollars to train soldiers
from other countries!! We the taxpayers. Shouldn't the corporations who want to exploit the cheap labor in those countries be the ones footing the bill?
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 05:32 PM
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29. I'm sorry, what on earth does that have to do with my post?
?
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 11:55 PM
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32. nada
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 04:13 PM
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27. Good for them!
I wonder if the fascist radio in Columbus will bitch about them like they usually do...
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 04:17 PM
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28. Last year, a counter event was held: God bless Fort Benning
day, at a large stadium. They had the same event this year. The hotel and food industry loves it all.
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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 05:42 PM
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30. Excellent


K&R
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thinks4herself Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 01:41 AM
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37. Good info - Written by my daughter while she was in high school about SOA (about 7 years ago)
School of the Americas

On January 21, former Mead Junior High teacher, Paddy Inman, was sentenced to six months in a Federal Penitentiary and a $3,000 fine. He was charged with a petty misdemeanor for trespassing on Fort Benning, Georgia, during a protest. Inman and 600 others were protesting the United States Army School of the Americas (SOA). This protest has been highly publicized, however, most people, although they may know Inman, do not know why he was protesting SOA. Actually, many people had not heard of SOA prior to this protest, despite the fact that approximately $2.6 million tax dollars fund the school each year.

The school has been operating since 1946. It was established to promote democracy and train Latin American soldiers U.S. military tactics. Originally located in Panama, the school was relocated to Fort Benning, Georgia in 1987. There, the SOA has received numerous protests by human rights activists because of the use of "Torture Manuals" and the continual human rights violations on the part of some former students.

Although SOA denies responsibility for human rights violations, including torture, by some graduates, they were in direct violation of U.S. military code in the use of so- called "Torture Manuals" from 1987 until 1991. The Department of Defense claims that these manuals contain classified methodology that could "compromise Army clandestine intelligence modus operandi." The manuals also contain references to motivation by fear, payment of bounties or enemy dead, beatings, false imprisonment, executions and the use of Sodiopenthanol Compound as a truth serum. The Counterintelligence portion includes statements that are "in violation of legal, regulatory or policy prohibitions, and contains sensitive Army counterintelligence tactics, techniques and procedures." The only portion of the manuals that did not contain violations was considered completely obsolete by the department.

One passage in the manual states, "The Counterintelligence agent could cause the arrest of the parents, imprison the or give him a beating as part of the placement plan of said in the guerrilla organization."

Another passage encourages intoxication of informants as a means to extract information. These manuals, although revoked from the SOA by the Secretary of Defense, still receive severe protest from human rights activists.

These activists, notably School of the Americas Watch, wish to close the SOA and establish an academy for democracy and civil-military relations. This seems "ironic" to some, as democracy was the original purpose for SOA, along with anti-Communist intelligence operations during the Cold War. The General Accounting Office of Congress points out that the SOA does have a course in democracy. However, this class was not offered until 1996, fifty years after the school opened and the same year the accounting office began investigations.

SOA Watch is working in conjunction with Representative Joe Kennedy (Dem.- Massachusetts). Together they have proposed a bill, House Resolution 611, which will close the SOA and establish an academy for democracy and civil-military relations.

House Resolution 611 has been defeated by a small majority twice, but Kennedy has made large gains in getting the bill passed. He refers to the SOA as an, "atrocity." He also discussed the SOA "Hall of Fame," a wall that displays the pictures of distinguished graduates. He states, "The 'Hall of Fame' in Georgia, is a 'hall of shame' for the American people."

In fact, many of SOA's "Hall of Fame" graduates have been cited with severe human rights violations. For example, General Rafael Samudio Molina of Colombia was cited by the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights as being responsible for a massacre at the Colombian Palace of Justice in 1985. Under Molina's command, the building was set ablaze, resulting in the deaths of civilians. Those who attempted to escape the fire were killed in Army crossfire or, as the commission claims, "direct assassination." Taped conversations between Molina and his commanders establish that Molina was not acting on behalf of the civilian government and the commission states that " used the situation to prove the brutality of the Colombian military and to eliminate individuals, including Supreme Court justices, who were not staunch enough allies of the Colombian Army." Molina was never a student of SOA but has been a guest instructor in 1970 and was placed on the "Hall of Fame" in 1988, approximately three years after the Palace of Justice Massacre.

Although SOA denies responsibility for any human rights violations caused by Molina or any graduates, human rights activists claim direct responsibility on the part of the school. A film titled "School of Assassins," put out by SOA Watch, states that not only were the dictators of Bolivia, Honduras and Ecuador former graduates, but 49 of the 60 soldiers on the United Nations Truth Commission "atrocious human rights violators" list. Manuel Noreaga, General Hector Gramaho and half of the 250 Colombian officers cited by ETEC for violations are also claimed former graduates.

However, the human rights violations on the part of former graduates are not necessarily directly linked to SOA. Colonel Alirio Antonio Uruena Jaramillo attended a Small Unit Infantry Tactics course in 1976. It was not until 1988 that he was accused by the Organization of American States of human rights violations during the Trujillo chainsaw massacres, in which 107 citizens died. The only evidence that Jaramillo was involved was from an eye-witness, who the organization claims "was soon disappeared, Major Jaramillo was promoted to Colonel." Jaramillo was dismissed from the Army in 1995 but the organization does not directly state that his dismissal was due to these allegations.

In spite of the horrible acts by some SOA graduates, there are many who defend the existence of the school. Its defenders point out that a majority of graduates do not commit atrocities. They also explain that of the graduates, only those from Latin America have violated human rights. Graduates from such countries as the United States, Central African Republic, Egypt, Hungary, Jordan, Latvia, Lebanon, Niger, Saudi Arabia, Singapore and Thailand have not been the cause of any violations. Defenders of the school have also said that a majority of the atrocities are caused by corrupt military officials working on behalf of drug cartels. The General Accounting Office of Congress stated that, " virtually all of the countries have representative governments and are pursuing market-based economic policies...civilian authority is weak and fragmented, and problems such as corruption within the government and human rights violations associated with government authorities, particularly military and police forces, remain as threats to the gains made over the past decade."

SOA officials also report their "respect for human rights," which is presented in a mandatory 4 hour class. This instruction is said to include case studies of the My Lai massacre in Vietnam and the El Mozote massacre in El Salvador. However, human rights activists have attributed direct responsibility for the El Mozote massacre to the SOA, as 12 soldiers were former graduates. In the film, "School of Assassins," the only survivor of the massacre, Rafina Amaya pleads, "Please, don't give us any more of this military aid, it would be better to help the poor." Amaya hid behind bushes as 900 fellow villagers, including her children, were shot by military gunmen.

As allegations of direct human right violations continue to mount, now including Amnesty International resolutions, SOA continues to deny responsibility. Claiming that violations occur due to corrupt governments and influential drug cartels, SOA has thus far maintained operational status under Department of Defense command.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 12:12 AM
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43. I can just imagine folks like Hannity and O'Reilly interpreting this
as liberals being anti-education.

"Look! These Hollywood Elitists want to shut down schools!"
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 12:13 AM
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44. Did I miss this on the news?
Or is a demonstration with some 20,000 participants just not worth reporting on?
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