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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 09:52 AM
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Playstation 3 Release Accessories: Violence, Greed, Stupidity
Edited on Sun Nov-19-06 10:35 AM by mcscajun
Two of the headlines for yesterday's stories on Friday's Sony Playstation 3 release:

Massachusetts Man Is Shot as Crowds Wait for Sony Console
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/18/nyregion/18play.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1163944825-bK1Te3N0GwpyR9v2b0/w/A

Violence Mars PlayStation 3 Launch
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061118/ap_on_re_us/playstation_shooting_32

A casual scan of the stories from the last two days (these noted above and others) reveals both disturbing patterns and disturbing causes.

There was the violence within the crowds of buyers, there was the violence enacted upon them by those willing to prey on a self-made 'captive audience' waiting to buy, and finally the violence visited on those who'd secured this coveted item and were leaving the stores.

Police in different areas around the country availed themselves of different techniques and tactics to control or subdue unruly crowds: talcum powder balls, pepper pellets, nightsticks.

Many were injured or trampled in stampedes as buyers rushed into the stores.

One young man in Connecticut was shot in the chest and shoulder (with a shotgun, yet!) while he waited on line. The assailants were after his money, which they were sure he had for the purchase. Amazingly and fortunately, the victim is in stable condition; oh, and Wal-Mart's going to see he gets his PS3. (Let's encourage this line-up behavior certainly, it's good PR.) Another shopper in Connecticut was beaten and robbed of his PS3 by a group of teenagers. He's in critical condition. One Allentown, PA teen was robbed of his purchase by a man with a handgun. This kind of thing didn't just happen in Connecticut and Pennsylvania: police in other communities around the country have reported other such robberies and attempts.

Consider then the causes:

First, the primary cause: One can only imagine that the release of a product to stores without sufficient inventory to satisfy demand is a deliberate decision meant to hype the product in the eyes of the public. Given the predictable chaos, accidental injury and violence that accompanied this weekend's release, this borders on criminal negligence, if not legally, then certainly morally. If they can't flood the stores with product, they should hold the release date until they can. It's not like this is the first time a release has been accompanied by these types of stories. They may issue corporate messages of concern, but they don't change their behavior.

A store gets eight consoles: 350 people are on line; another got 28, with a line snaking around outside of the store waiting for a shot at one; one store gets only nine, and had no line as they'd sensibly pre-sold them before this week. One Best Buy seems to have been the outlet in this story to handle their line properly: knowing they had only 140 consoles, employees gave out tickets to the first 140 people in line, so everyone else could go home until the store was open. If that system sounds familiar, it's because rock fans have known about the 'bracelet' system for years. Stores must become more responsible about handling these all-too-predictable situations, and the policy and procedures should be handed down from the corporate level.

Other underlying causes: greed, stupidity, and warped values on the part of the public; consider the following:

John Moore's head was burning as he arrived just before midnight on Tuesday at Rockaway Townsquare's Best Buy, where he'll be one of the first people in Morris County to buy a Sony PlayStation 3 when it goes on sale today.

"I came here with a 103-degree fever," Moore, 21, of Budd Lake, said Thursday morning.

snip

Paul Siegel, 19, of Rockaway Township, arrived Wednesday with the hopes of buying and selling.

"A day and a half of work for at least a month of pay? That's worth it," he said, adding that he hopes to get between $1,500 to $2,000, or more, for his PS3.

snip

"I had planned to take (Thursday) to try to do this," said Edmund Keraitis, 49, of Mount Arlington, who also was in line, planning to get a PS3 for his 14-year-old son, Tyler.

"If you're doing this for the money, it's not a bad way to make money," Keraitis said, adding that he wants to teach his son a lesson.

"It's just teaching my son that if you really want something you have to work for it," he said.
http://www.dailyrecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006611170351


Risk your health, profit on scalping hyped products, teach your child that waiting on line is work;all for a product that will be available for purchase later on. REALITY CHECK REQUIRED, PEOPLE!

:banghead:


(edited to fix typo)
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 09:56 AM
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1. it's a great snapshot of modern america.
and it's past time to call into account the character of americans -- not the fundy values voter version -- because they're included.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 09:57 AM
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2. This makes the Cabbage Patch Kids' insanity look
normal...



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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 10:02 AM
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3. Beanie Babies....
...all that crap that was "SO" important to be the first to have....and now, who cares about it? It's quaint!

One of the gaming teens in our outfit says that the Playstation is overpriced anyway, and he wants a Wii! He'll be waiting for it, though--none of that line-standing or frantic racing about. When there's a big fat inventory, that's when it will be bought!
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 11:51 AM
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13. We went to the grocery store last night in Redmond, WA,
home of Nintendo's world headquarters, to get the bulk of the items we'll need for Thanksgiving. To our surprise, it was the Nintendo Wii launch at midnight. We had no idea this was taking place. (We're old, and don't care about video games.) It was cold, the wind was blowing, and the line was already around the building outside. Most of those had been waiting for several hours already.

>he wants a Wii! He'll be waiting for it, though--none of that line-standing or frantic racing about.<

We happened to talk with store management on an unrelated issue; they said at a little before 9:00 p.m. that they did not have sufficient consoles for those already in line. As others in the thread have mentioned, it's hard for me to understand why anyone would endanger themselves for such a thing, but we see it yearly with the "hot toy", the $49 DVD players, etcetera.

It would help if people would ignore the marketing and decide they could live without the latest and greatest, but anyone willing to sit in a wind chill for several hours won't see the logic.

Julie
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 11:18 AM
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10. Yup. I recall the frenzy, but I don't recall anyone getting shot over
the odd-looking kiddie dolls.
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hsher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 10:30 PM
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17. Must not poll whether Cabbage Patch dolls were ugly... must not...
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 10:54 PM
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18. ROFL
I applaud your restraint.

:applause:
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 10:08 AM
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4. only 400,000 available nationwide...?
but the next day, the news story was that another 600,000 will be available by the end of the year.

it was an artificial shortage.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 10:10 AM
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5. Exactly.
This is deliberate, and the manufacturer should be held accountable. Something has to change, because unfortunately people, in the mass, don't.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 10:16 AM
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6. Over 25,000 listed on eBay !
Sony would have made much more money just selling them that way :silly:

http://video-games.search.ebay.com/playstation-3_Systems_W0QQsacatZ62054
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 10:32 AM
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7. And no one would have gotten shot, trampled, or peppered.
But of course, not everyone can buy online.
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Tracer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 10:48 AM
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8. Do the games themselves encourage violent behavior?
Seems to me that the bulk of the video games are excessively violent. Nothing but an opportunity to blast away at "enemies".
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 10:55 AM
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9. That's a completely separate issue, and one for another thread.
This is simply about hype, and buying into hype.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 11:22 AM
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12. Seconded.
Besides, look at the industry in general - it profits off of violence in games. I'll leave it at that since I'd love to write up a huge response on all the nuances involved.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 10:09 PM
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16. Please start a thread about that so I can berate you
for those brilliant words. I don't want to hijack this thread...
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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 11:38 PM
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19. They actually encourage no behavior whatever,
unless button-pushing and slackness of the jaw can be classified as a behavior.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 11:21 AM
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11. The folks buying to sell... I hope the buyers on ebay don't follow through...
Which, I suspect, will be the case.

All of that does not sound like working at all. I agree; it's scalping and exploiting.

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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 09:57 PM
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14. Sigh, would that most people could restrain themselves from
buying something at twice or three times its retail price simply because they can.

Stupidity comes in all price ranges.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 10:01 PM
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15. Folks who put their lives on hold..
Edited on Sun Nov-19-06 10:01 PM by sendero
... over a fucking game machine, how pathetic can you get.

Turn the goddam thing off and get a life already. Oh that's right, it's already on hold.

Weeehhhhaaaa, look at those graphics!
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 11:47 PM
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20. Lives on hold? To do WHAT ELSE?
Spend all day on a message board>?
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