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RiverStone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:13 PM Original message |
HELP! Confused about C. Rangel's draft talk. Crazy or smart??? |
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LaurenG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
1. He should stop it (IMO) |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
2. Unnecessary. |
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Monkeyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
3. The Draft will not happen just my opinion |
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951-Riverside (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
4. It will be political suicide but it will drum up massive support against the war |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
5. It's honest and direct. I happen to agree with Charlie. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:19 PM Response to Reply #5 |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:31 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. I think you are talking to the war profiteering Republicans |
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Opusnone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:41 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. Exactly |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:40 PM Response to Reply #9 |
26. Well, that's the typical personal attack of a spoiled brat. It's the moral equivalent ... |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:52 PM Response to Reply #9 |
34. Don't think slavery was what the gentleman was supporting. |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:47 PM Response to Reply #9 |
51. TahitiNut is a Vietnam Veteran. I don't appreciate your tone towards him. |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:07 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. And they might demand that we have a responsivle VET |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:22 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. I agree too. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
31. "Participate". implies voluntary action. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:09 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. As a Viet Nam veteran and draftee, it sounds to me like you don't recall those days. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:21 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. I'll repeat myself. We left 50,000+ in vietnam, mostly draftees. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:27 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. I disagree. Despite the hyperbole, Iraq is NOT Viet Nam. |
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PsN2Wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:37 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. A quick trip to Google |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:47 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. That's right. Draftees did NOT get killed disproportionally. |
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PsN2Wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 10:26 PM Response to Reply #50 |
64. Even enlisting in the Navy or Air Farce |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:48 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. Beware of quick trips to google. |
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PsN2Wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 10:32 PM Response to Reply #52 |
65. Well, I know Google isn't 100% |
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PsN2Wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:23 PM Response to Reply #5 |
44. Damn TahitiNut, now you've been outed as a Repub |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:34 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Yeah. Me and Charles Rangel. Republicans. Go figure. |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
59. I'm with you |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
6. Completely fucking stupid and misguided. |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
7. I believe he said: |
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lcordero2 (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
8. sorry |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
11. He wants to have Joe 6pack lookin' at skin in the game |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. They wouldn't go even if there was a draft........ |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 05:00 PM Response to Reply #17 |
62. If we draft without college deferment... |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
12. Doesn't he also support mandatory 2-year service? nt |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
13. if we chose war after war and years of war, then yes.... we have |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
14. Crazy. He's been thumping this particular tub for a while. I understand the reasoning |
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rolleitreks (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
15. No mandatory national service in any form. The guy is |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
16. A "citizens army" means that going to war becomes real. |
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Little Wing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:33 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. It's a confused message |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:39 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. The way to get them out is to make the war real rather than abstract. |
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Little Wing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:03 PM Response to Reply #25 |
37. but that's not the message 90% of the population will get |
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RiverStone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:44 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Agreed! "What noble cause?" - said Cindy Sheehan |
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SusanaMontana41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:33 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. agreed |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:42 PM Response to Reply #16 |
49. Yep. As it is, the "war" is a TV reality show whose ratings are falling. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:59 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. A very apt metaphor. War is reduced to "winning the big game". |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
19. We have three choices |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:42 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. I think you're right. |
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NVMojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
20. it was stupid the first time he jerked it out ... |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
23. Batshit crazy |
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Opusnone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
24. SMART |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
30. I agree with Rangel, we need a draft |
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slaveplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
32. What was even more ominous |
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KingFlorez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
33. It's an anti-war tactic |
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Minnesota_Lib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
35. There is method behind Rangel’s madness… |
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Opusnone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
36. Why We Fight |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
38. The draft hasn't gone away, it is just on hold, and it enables |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
40. I have to say that back when we had compulsory military |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:22 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. "straightened out many a kid" |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
41. I think only poor kids should serve our country (sarcasm) |
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etherealtruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:57 PM Response to Reply #41 |
54. That's right ... |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
48. And one more reason why this is STUPID |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
53. Pelosi and Reid need to get out in front of this |
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Zorro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
55. I agree with Rangel |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:49 PM Response to Reply #55 |
66. Democracy depends on an informed electorate |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
57. If Charlie keeps it up, he won't be running for office in 2008.(nt) |
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Minnesota_Lib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:25 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. He 1st sponsored this draft bill in 2003. He was reelected with 94% of the vote in 2006. |
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etherealtruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:27 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. He's been saying this for years now ... |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
63. Crazy bad and stupid |
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