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Dems2002 (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:15 PM Original message |
The Modern Draft -- Yes, we need it, but NOT just military |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
1. K&R |
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Dems Will Win (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 04:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
70. THIS THREAD IS MISGUIDED -- READ THIS INSTEAD |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 07:31 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. respectfully disagreeing n/t |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
2. I don't agree that everyone needs to give four years of their life. |
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acmejack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Three whole months? |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
3. While I think an argument can be made |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:37 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. So am I |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. But it's OK for poor kids to have to do so? |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:54 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Hardly the point... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:55 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Yes, it IS THE POINT. |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 05:07 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. No, others are dying for a bunch of rich motherfuckers... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 02:33 PM Response to Reply #21 |
66. Yup, slavery is what I'm advocating. Just like all those slaves in Switzerland... |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 06:25 PM Response to Reply #10 |
36. Nobody is pointing a gun at their head and saying they have to |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 06:30 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. I think universal education is a MUCH better option... |
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Dems2002 (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 05:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
24. What does it mean to be an American? |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 06:05 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. So many points... |
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Dems2002 (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 06:16 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. That would be the more doable option for now |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 06:19 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. I think that no matter how you try to work it |
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Dems2002 (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 06:24 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Which could be helpful as well |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 06:28 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. My uncle owns a successful electrical contracting company... |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 08:12 PM Response to Reply #24 |
41. Guess what - not everyone served in WWII |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 08:22 PM Response to Reply #24 |
44. Stratification of society has a lot more to do with the stratification |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
5. Do you REALLY WANT TO GIVE A MADMAN A BIG ARMY???? |
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acmejack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:35 PM Original message |
How reactionary! |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
22. You're STILL advocating forced servitude... |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
51. But it WILL BE |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
54. Shit doesn't have to taste bad either. |
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Dems2002 (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 06:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
31. It's not the size that matters |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 08:17 PM Response to Reply #31 |
42. Maybe they wouldn't want to have a child at 18, but what if they did? |
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Dems2002 (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 09:07 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. Give me a break |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
6. Oh great.... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:40 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Other, much more progressive countries, have a mandatory service. |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 08:17 PM Response to Reply #12 |
43. Which other progressive countries? |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 02:16 PM Response to Reply #43 |
62. Ever heard of Switzerland? |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 08:23 PM Response to Reply #12 |
45. I don't care what other countries do..... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 02:17 PM Response to Reply #45 |
63. "I don't poll other countries to determine what my opinion will be." |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 02:26 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. I don't know, was there? If you are |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 02:31 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Neither does he. |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 04:17 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. How stupid. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 05:33 PM Response to Reply #67 |
75. Changing the content, not the process. |
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Aviation Pro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
8. As a member of my county's Selective Service Board.... |
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acmejack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:40 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Forget it, AP. |
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acmejack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
9. Obviously all that stuff is not for people like you either, huh? |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
13. Ah, maybe you should do the numbers.... |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 05:00 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Now that you've thought about that, think of what just the payroll burden would be |
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951-Riverside (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
14. If I'm ever forced to sign up I'm coming to the army center with a joint in hand and... |
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rolleitreks (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
17. Over my dead body. The State has no claim to my time. n/t |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 05:03 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. In a democracy, you ARE 'the state.' |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 05:27 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Yeah, even though it's clear that the "State" |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 07:36 PM Response to Reply #23 |
39. In some ways |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 07:39 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. I'm not sure it IS reciprocal... |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 10:55 AM Response to Reply #40 |
55. vote blue |
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rolleitreks (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 05:58 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. Nonsense. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
19. I agree. Add the Public Health Service to the services. |
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Dems2002 (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 05:53 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Agreed |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
26. You first. n/t |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
27. and get rid of Haliburton and KBR... |
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dev (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
29. You've got the top post.... |
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Dems2002 (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 06:18 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. LOL -- Good luck with that |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
46. My children come from a long line of draft dodgers |
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Dems2002 (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 09:16 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. We'll all just sit back and enjoy watching the lions tear apart the Christians |
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jannyk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
47. Agree wholeheartedly K&R nt |
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pdxmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
50. I think that if anything were implemented, it should have to be phased |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
52. ah gees |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
53. Civil War WWI WWI Korea Vietnam |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:12 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. There was a draft at the outset of WWII, Korea and Vietnam |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:24 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. The draft was actually activated PRIOR to our entry into WW2. 1940, iirc. |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:02 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Exactly n/t |
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EdwardM (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
57. As an individualist, I am against any sort of draft. |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 07:33 PM Response to Reply #57 |
72. do you mean "individualist" |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
59. I'm close to being a pacifist, but after teaching in a college where |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 04:34 PM Response to Reply #59 |
69. Remember when in California the |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 08:57 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. If I were running the world of higher education, students would have |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
60. Service earns you citizenship, and only citizens can vote. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
68. The best post on this yet. |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
74. Show me the budget |
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