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nolies32fouettes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 06:59 PM
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Can we prosecute Ann Coulter?
Edited on Sun Nov-19-06 07:36 PM by nolies32fouettes
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 07:00 PM
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1. Does she deserve that much attention? nt
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nolies32fouettes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 07:02 PM
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2. It's not theSHE that deserves the attention. It's the crimes because
of what she said.
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LA lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 07:05 PM
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3. This is from the site you linked to
First, this mailing happened in 2005, while Ms. Coulter's comment happened in 2006. It's temporally impossible for Ann Coulter's remark to have prompted this.

Second, it should also be noted the sender sent these things to the heads of the armed services, the head of the FBI, and others, which Ann Coulter never suggested, and which is not even remotely a logical extrapolation from the Ann Coulter comment.

Third, the sender wasn't actually going after these people. She put fake return addresses on the things and then included the letters that said they were poison, because she was trying to get the people whose return addresses she put on the packages in trouble.

Fourth, this is a free country. Much as it is entirely legal for people to openly call for a violent revolution to overthrow the government, or for soldiers to frag their officers, it is legal to call for the poisoning of public officials. That's free speech, as established by the very same liberal Justices Ann Coulter hates so much.

So, to go after Ann Coulter over this, you have to ignore the Constitution of the United States, why the poisoned goods were sent, to whom they were sent, and when they were sent. Other than that, yeah, solid case.
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The Deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 07:24 PM
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9. Actually
It IS NOT "entirely legal" for people to "openly call for violent revolution" or "the poisoning of public officials." Those ARE NOT covered by the First Amendment (as both liberal & conservative judges have found on many occasions.) It is perfectly Constitutional for Congress to pass laws criminalizing such actions. And they have. So irrespective of whether the person in question acted on Ann Coulter's suggestions, advocating the violent overthrow of the U.S. Government or bringing harm to public officials is illegal, and if Ann Coulter did so she could be prosecuted. (Historical note: prosecutions under these laws are rare absent any overt acts.)
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nolies32fouettes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 07:35 PM
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13. true. But it's still seems to me that the courts may rule
that hate speech that leads to a crime may not be protected.

I'm not a lawyer. But oooooh it would feel so good to take that mouth down!
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rusty charly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 08:01 PM
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15. "you have to ignore the Constitution of the United States"
ask any republican for help with this.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 07:06 PM
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4. Who?
?
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INDIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 07:10 PM
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5. Yes!
And after we're done with her, we'll go after Ann Coulter!!!
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 07:11 PM
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6. any relation to Ann Cooter?
:rofl:
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nolies32fouettes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 07:36 PM
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14. ha ha
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 07:12 PM
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7. Why bring Cooter into this?
:D
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 07:17 PM
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8. It's Ann Cuntler you fool!
Learn to spell for Christs' sake!
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nolies32fouettes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 08:53 PM
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17. lol--a little dislexia goes a long way.
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 07:29 PM
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10. On national TV, Anne once proudly stated that she had lied to the FBI
It was during Monica. David Gregory was subbing for Geraldo and Manne was a guest. They were discussing Kathleen Willey's conflicting testimony to Starr and the FBI, when Manne -- attempting to slough off said lies as unimportant (unlike the enormously important Clinton 'lies) blithely mentioned to Gregory that a lot of people, herself included, lied to investigative agencies like the FBI.

She said (approximately) "It's like when the FBI comes to you and asks you about drug use by people you knew back in college, and you tell them you never saw them with any drugs, even though the person was known to be the biggest pothead on campus."

I no longer have the direct quote or the exact time and date -- it was on a hard drive that crashed. But I am certain, CERTAIN of the context. Manne specifically acknowleged that she had lied to the FBI and laughed about iu. Gregory himself seemed shocked by this admission and pointedly asked her if she actually meant to admit that she had lied to the FBI, and she happily said she had.

I remember thinking at the time, "Boy, if you were a liberal instead a wingnut, this would be all over Free Republic by tomorrow and you'd be under indictment by the day after."

But because Manne is protected by the powerful wingnut-preservation-society, she got away with it. Never caused a ripple. I wouldn't be surprises if I was the only one who remembered it. But it happened!!
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nolies32fouettes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 08:23 PM
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16. WOW! that's awful! I can't believe they didn't charge her then!
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 07:32 PM
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11. would be easier to "Commit" him..
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 07:33 PM
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12. Stupidity Is Not A Crime, Alas
Nor is mental illness. Nor is being a sociopath.
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nolies32fouettes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 11:40 PM
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19. That's why Bush is in office! (Cheney and PNAC members too)
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 11:13 PM
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18. Ann Coulter belongs behind bars for election fraud or something too.
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 11:43 PM
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20. I'd rather
try and execute the anorexic he-bitch. And fuck the trial. Just get to the executing part.
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 12:45 AM
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22. you shouldn't say that...only 'cuz they prob. watch this site and can get your ip.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 11:45 PM
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21. No
It doesn't qualify as enticement, so it'd be convered by free speech. How many liberals have "joked" about bad things happening to Bush? Same deal.
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Unrepentant Fenian Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 12:51 AM
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23. Ann the man
Man Coulter is a fool.
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