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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 09:35 AM
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Xtian runs amok, burns 'heretic' churches.
http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=537315&category=SARATOGA&BCCode=HOME&newsdate=11/21/2006&TextPage=1

Church fire called act of intolerance
Police say religious zeal led Bible student to burn Episcopal church

By LEIGH HORNBECK, Staff writer
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First published: Tuesday, November 21, 2006

Clarification: Caleb Lussier, the man accused in the arson of Christ Church in Pottersville, also allegedly burglarized the church by stealing religious items.

POTTERSVILLE -- The Bibles were safe the night Christ Episcopal Church turned to tinder, allegedly at the hands of Caleb Uriah Lussier, police said Monday.

Lussier, 20, allegedly confessed to police that he used gasoline to torch the church in late May after he gathered the Bibles in a bag and placed them outside the reach of the flames.


Lussier, of Plymouth, Mass., is a student at the Word of Life Bible Institute in Schroon Lake, not far from Christ Episcopal. Investigators said he acted out of a religious zeal that also may have played a role in a fire at another church in his hometown and in threats against three other houses of worship.

Warren County Sheriff Larry Cleveland said Lussier thought the members of Christ Church were hypocrites who deviated from the teachings of the Bible and the word of God. He allegedly robbed the church twice in May. On one occasion he left behind a message written in a Bible: "You've been warned." On May 30, a fire at the 77-year-old church burned out of control before firefighters arrived.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 09:40 AM
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1. I'd be willing to bet we start seeing a lot more of this.
Especially when the truths about the Bushco crimes (and the fundie leaders' complicity) comes to light.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 09:41 AM
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2. This post speaks for itself. nt
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 10:14 AM
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3. Sounds like a terrorist act committed by a religious extremist.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 12:02 PM
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12. Yep, we are not only fighting them here, we are creating them HERE
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 02:25 PM
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13. American Taliban
Wants to be a Bubbatollah some day.
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MikeNearMcChord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 10:16 AM
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4. For whom the gods destroy, they first make him mad.
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 10:21 AM
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5. Good lord...

:o

I'm amazed... I knew they were nuts, but THIS...
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 10:53 AM
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6. That's beyond the pale.
I'm so sorry for those churches. What a loss.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 10:55 AM
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7. the extremist language pushed by the religious right
are really ORDERS for individuals to go out and behave this way.

assasinations of abortion doctors, terrorizing women going to and from clinics, extreme harrassing and violence toward gay folk, blaming 9-11 on feminists and gays and lesbians, etc.

this individual did what he was supposed to do -- but leaders of course will be able to denounce from a safe distance.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 10:59 AM
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8. Pottersville? So it's true. George Bailey never got born and the
world went to hell in a handbasket.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 11:10 AM
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9. If he set off a car bomb to burn one of these churches down, would he be called a "terrorist"?
Or just an "extremist"?
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nealmhughes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 11:58 AM
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10. I hope that he realizes that there were sacred articles beyond the Bibles in there.
Communion sets, crufixes, vestments, and possibly even reserved sacrament that was in the tabernacle for emergency sick calls. The "presence lamp" is not there for a cute red light alone in an Episcopal church.

True, it was only brick and mortar, but much more to those of the parish. It was their spiritual home, their communion silver, their font where their families were baptized, their pews where they knelt in prayer.

No establishment that has significant ties to a community ought be destroyed wantonly and frivously, church, temple, synagogue, prayer center, school, library, or historic home.
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nealmhughes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 11:58 AM
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11. I hope that he realizes that there were sacred articles beyond the Bibles in there.
Communion sets, crufixes, vestments, and possibly even reserved sacrament that was in the tabernacle for emergency sick calls. The "presence lamp" is not there for a cute red light alone in an Episcopal church.

True, it was only brick and mortar, but much more to those of the parish. It was their spiritual home, their communion silver, their font where their families were baptized, their pews where they knelt in prayer.

No establishment that has significant ties to a community ought be destroyed wantonly and frivously, church, temple, synagogue, prayer center, school, library, or historic home.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 02:27 PM
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14. I don't suppose any of them would see the paralells
of shit like this to Shia and Sunni killing each other? No, that would require clarity of thought.
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