Are we going to have posters telling us what a great guy Bush1 was after he kicks the bucket?

[NNN0LHI]

I don't think I am going to be able to take much more of this Republican idolization around here like we have had with Ford.

A thug like Ford wears a decent looking suit and all of a sudden he becomes something special or something? Sorry but I am not falling for that shit.

And don't forget that Saddam wore nice suits too. He was still a thug. Just like every Republican president I can remember in my lifetime.

Don

[TankLV]

1. God I hope not.

If any idiot DOES indeed try that crap, we will know who is and who is not a true Democrat and Patriot, that's for sure...

[dave_p]

14. Not comparable

Ford was a Republican expression of policies rooted in the US political consensus. I don't like that consensus one bit, but mainstream Democrats have to answer for it as much as Republicans.

Bush represents (even more than Reagan) a complete perversion of everything the US has ever claimed to stand for - progress, freedom, order, law itself. Where Ford was a prisoner of the system, BushCo took the system hostage and used it to violate every tenet that had ever earned America respect, even the ones many of us view as founded in self-interest.

They're not the same. No, I won't be saying any nice things about Chimpy.

[peekaloo]

2. I call a "No Comparison Zone".

as in don't compare the two pieces of shit with the same last name to conclude which was less evil.

Geez I had an O'Shrilly moment there. :sarcasm:

[peacebird]

3. I can't decide if folks 1)don't know history, 2)don't want to speak ill of the dead, or 3)

compared his presidency to shrub and suddenly Ford didn't look *so* bad......

:shrug:

[xultar]

8. Maybe people wanted to have respect for the family's grief. You can understand

that can't you.

If not you have no class.

[peacebird]

20. I do understand that - it falls into the category of "don't speak ill of the dead" for me

Happy New Years!

[SmokingJacket]

40. But there's a big difference between respectful silence and

rewriting history. I'm all for the former. The latter, not so much.

[Radio_Lady]

48. We just went through that in this family. My son's father passed on Dec. 1.

This man practically abandoned him when he was age 1. He did try to keep our son in his live, and he and the stepmother took over custody when our son was 10 years old, and did a good job until he was 18.

However, our son didn't like him very much. His father was always criticizing him and his wife. The wife's family really hated him.

But he stood up and delivered a very beautiful eulogy, but it was filled with lies.

Oh, well. I guess he was just trying to put "lipstick on a pig." Or something like that.

I didn't talk with him about it, and really don't know if I should.

[malaise]

61. They are two separate issues

You can have respect for a family's grief without inventing history and without the ridiculous deification of Ford. Ford was nothing that I have heard on TV since his death. He set the stage for the Ws of this world. Nixon should have been in prison with his cabal, but no Ford was so do decent, he healed the nation, blah, blah, blah? What did he heal when the nation is more divided than ever, when the current president can refer to the Democratic party leadership as traitors and supporters of terrorists. I am sick of the pretence of goodness when all around is evil.

Now here is the king of evil and Laura with their pretence :puke:

[Poll_Blind]

11. There is also the "Don't make us look disrespectful!" contingent.

  I think the reasoning is if we don't start dancing on tables when bastard Republican presidents die the Republicans will either A) Treat us with some more respect (why this is important, I dunno) or B) They'll see, through our compassion, the error of their bastardly ways and (my favorite) C) "We've got to show them we've got more class than them!". Hey, we can look classy all the way to the Gitmo dog cages as far as the Republicans are concerned.

  Or, to steal a line from the great Leonard Cohen, "...some other form of boredom advertised as poetry."

  I really have no idea why the death of a Republican president would cause fights among DUers over the issue of who is or who is not respecting him enough. Hell, when Carter dies you think the Republicans will do anything but gloat?

  For that matter, we'll have our hands full with those at DU who will be happy to see Carter dead.

  Augh...

PB

[uppityperson]

69. #3, Ford compared to Bushes

[Raine]

88. Some of us

don't like to kick a guy while he is literally "down" for the count.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

4. posters, TV specials, newspaper coverage and more.

oh THOSE KIND OF POSTERS.

sorry.
He is a master manipulator and criminal. You kinda have to admire his success, despite treaties, laws, and a semi-free media. The way he has managed to get away with it for so long is admirable in a sad, depressing and disgusting way.

[Loge23]

5. I'm in mourning all right...

...for the death of sanity in this country.
Look, I feel for any family's loss - how about #3,000's family??
But the level of sentiment for a former, unelected president is reaching the saturation level already.
The freakin' Post Office is closed on Tuesday for a National Day of Mourning!! Is this nuts or what??
Have we forgot what these guys are? THEY ARE POLITICIANS!!
They are put in office to provide leadership and direction for the country. THEY ARE NOT ROYALITY!! THEY ARE NOT KINGS!!
Mr. Ford, rest in peace. But I'll pass on the Pomp and Circumstance already.

[Warren Stupidity]

6. Gerry was an amiable oaf and a lousy president.

He really wasn't much of a thug. Yes I know about East Timor, but do you think Gerry had enough upstairs to actually understand what that policy decision meant?

BushI: now that is a different story. One has to conclude that he is the godfather of the Bush crime family, and therefore fully qualifies for 'thug'. He should be referred to, in mafia crime reporting style, as George "Poppy" Bush. Too bad he doesn't have a Soprano belly, then again the Wasp gangsters never do.

Yes of course we will have the usual suspects telling us what bad sorts we are for not having sufficient respect for the passing of George "Poppy" Bush.

[xultar]

7. First. I don't like speaking ill of the dead like within days of their death.

The family is grieving. Though I may not like the person who died I'll respect the family's grief.

Second. Speak bad about him right now.
Third. When someone dies if I have nothing nice to say I don't say shit. OFten it is what isn't said that speaks the loudest.

Third. So, I'll rip him a new one up until he croaks. Then I'll keep quiet till he's buried out of respect for the family then when he's in the ground I'll start rippin again.

Simple.

[KittyWampus]

12. Xultar, this is about some DU'ers needing to feel so much more INFORMED than others

You see, they know all the facts and the rest of us are just ignorant and revisionist.

[xultar]

16. Ahhhh. I get it. So if we show respect for a death and family grief we are labled uninformed

and ignorant by informed classless lumps.

I gotcha.

Cryingshame you always help me clear things up. I so dig it!

[Zhade]

80. Considering you're a self-professed believer in "Intelligent Design"...

...I wouldn't be so quick to accuse OTHERS of not having the facts.

[jaxx]

9. GHWB will go down in history as the sire of GWB..........

That ought to about finish getting good marks.

[KittyWampus]

10. 'Republican idolization'? Got a link to any of that on DU? How sad that when Du'ers don't trash

someone who just died others feel that is "idolization".

Try for a little balance and perspective, please.

[xultar]

13. Apparently people have no class and want others to join them.

I can't understand how respecting a family's grief can be seen as idolization.

Makes me wonder if freepers abound cuz for fux sake we all know freepers have no respect or compassion for anyone @ any fuxing time.

[Capn Amerika]

65. Respecting a family's grief?

1.) The guy was 93 years old. Doncha think they knew this was coming?
2.) Do you really think the Ford family reads DU?
3.) Any public figure who controls the fate of some many people on this spinning mud ball deserves any criticism they get, alive, dead, on their death bed, on the way to the morgue or where ever.

It is a primitive superstition not to speak ill of the dead. They are dead. And in Ford's case, fuck him. He contributed to the degeneration of the human race by instigating policies and setting foundations that made and are still making people suffer.

[xultar]

91. 1.) The guy was 93 years old. Doncha think they knew this was coming?

SICK SHIT. THAT IS SOME SICK ASS SHIT.

[Rosemary2205]

15. Is this another "agree with me or you're a freeper" thread?

smells like it.

[Double T]

17. bush 1 NEVER was a great guy, whereas Ford had a lot of integrity and.......

enough guts to pardon Nixon so that our Country would not wallow in impeachment proceedings and the like. I don't believe there has been a president in the last 50 years with as much integrity and REAL dedication to this country as Gerald Ford.

[NNN0LHI]

19. Before I respond let me ask if if you are posting sarcasm?

Because if you are you are good at it.

Don

[Double T]

22. As with right wingers, some left wingers can't see ANYTHING GOOD.......

in moderates or the center. Quit having such a narrow focus.

[NNN0LHI]

35. Now that we have that out of the way...

...you are saying that Ford pardoned Nixon from having to put the country though an impeachment.

El wrongo!

Nixon had already resigned when Ford pardoned him. Nixon was looking at being indicted and tried for felonies against the United State Of America. Thats you and me.

Ford said to us that a Republican president is above any and all laws. Fuck that!

That is exactly how we got into the situation we are in right now.

Don't sound like you know too much of the details concerning that pardon to me. That was the plan.

I bet you know all the details about a blue dress though.

Funny how that works isn't it?

Don

[Name removed]

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[Double T]

96. Better check your facts..........

Nixon was being impeached. Nixon THEN resigned. Ford Pardoned Nixon. http://www.landmarkcases.org/nixon/nixon.html

[fishwax]

47. you think ford had more integrity and dedication than carter?

what did carter do to indicate his lack of integrity or dedication, relative to Ford?

[mitchum]

51. You have to be fucking kidding

[Double T]

52. Sorry. NO, I'm NOT.

[mitchum]

60. Okay...will you trade me your car for a handful of magic beans?

[Double T]

64. I need my car; nothing against Jack, but you can keep the beanstalk......

Thanks anyway.

[struggle4progress]

53. Ford cited friendship in Nixon pardon

Fri Dec 29, 2006 4:23pm ET
By David Alexander

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Former President Gerald Ford told an interviewer last year he pardoned Richard Nixon in part to spare his friend the stigma of a criminal conviction for the Watergate cover-up, the Washington Post reported on Friday.

The explanation goes beyond Ford's previous insistence that he issued the pardon to move the United States beyond the partisan divisions of Watergate.

"I looked upon him as my personal friend. And I had no hesitancy about granting the pardon because I felt that we had this relationship and I didn't want to see my real friend have the stigma," Ford, who died on Tuesday at age 93, told journalist Bob Woodward in a 2005 interview ...

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-12-29T212255Z_01_N29218977_RTRUKOC_0_US-FORD-nixon.xml&WTmodLoc=NewsHome-C1-topNews-8

[Double T]

59. Ford's fault; continued loyalty to a friendship even when Nixon was........

corrupt as corrupt can be. Looking back more than three decades later, it was still the right thing to do; pardon Nixon; for ALL the reasons Ford did IT.

[mitchum]

62. Continued loyalty to a PARTY

Nixon's trials may have ripped the republican party apart, but the country would have been far better off.
Ford was just a lifelong button man for the gop. Not a hero. Not noble. Not honorable.

[Double T]

71. Nixon resigned in disgrace. What more could have been accomplished.......

to continue the proceedings of the impeachment of Nixon? Unfortunately there are TOO MANY life long button men for BOTH the Democrats and the rethugs. Term Limits and abolishing K Street Criminals would do more than ANYTHING else for this nation's political corruption.

[mitchum]

77. Sorry, but you do not know your history...

Nixon had already resigned and was NOT facing impeachment. Ford pardoned him for possible forthcoming criminal indictments. Legal proceedings would have ensnared Nixon and many others who were involved in criminal conspiracies.

[Double T]

95. Sorry, Nixon was facing impeachment, THEN resigned.

Ford THEN Pardoned Nixon. http://www.landmarkcases.org/nixon/nixon.html

[mitchum]

98. Ford gave Nixon a PREEMPTIVE pardon for future criminal indictments

The pardon had nothing to do with impeachment. Since Nixon had already resigned, impeachment (removal from office) was a moot point. Ford's pardon thwarted future investigations into criminal acts upon the part of Nixon (and others) that had occurred when Nixon was president.

[struggle4progress]

63. Loyalty to the "corrupt as corrupt can be" is evidence of "lots of integrity"?

[Double T]

67. It is hairy, but when a friend gets in real deep trouble, usually only a handful of long time......

friends are still left, if their lucky. There is certainly SOMETHING to be said for that kind of loyalty to a friend, it is rare.

[struggle4progress]

76. Shielding someone from prosecution for enormous crimes differs somewhat

from offering a helping hand and continuing support in the case of (say) grave psychiatric disorder or drug dependency.

The first sort of loyalty is merely what one expects from co-conspirators in the criminal underworld.

[Zhade]

82. Mobsters talk about their friends the same way.

Your argument reflects theirs.

[IdaBriggs]

92. If he hadn't pardoned the SOB, then we wouldn't have the current

criminals in office who think they can get away with what they've gotten away with.

Ford may have been a "nice guy" but his "niceness" damned this country to the hell that is the current Republican leadership.

Was he as bad as Reagan? Probably not -- Reagan actively worked to make the lives of most of us hell. Ford just tried to be a "nice guy" instead of a RESPONSIBLE member of Law Enforcement (which is what doing his job would have entailed -- you know, ENFORCING THE LAWS OF THE LAND).

It would have been a lot of work to 1) Jail the Corrupt Criminals who had been abusing the power of the Presidency, and 2) Heal the Nation. Its too bad Ford didn't take his Oath of Office seriously.

If his family wants to grieve privately, let them. They can say nice things about how much they'll miss him, etc. But on a political board it behooves the rest of us to learn the lessons of history so we DON'T make the same damn mistakes (as Pelosi is currently planning on following in Ford's footsteps).

That's my take, anyway.

[billbuckhead]

54. It took guts to pardon NiXXXon?

The seeds of today's Bushco misadministration were in that pardon.

[Double T]

57. It took guts to pardon Nixon, the pardon was extremely unpopular and cost.......

Ford his Presidential election. More than three decades latter, some of the seeds in Ford's administration have become absolutely corrupt, as Ford has admitted, in a posthumous interview. Just another GREAT reason for term limits for ALL politicos.

[uppityperson]

70. How were the seeds of bushites planted then?

I read this elsewhere and got the response then "you need to do your research because you are ignorant". Thanks.

[billbuckhead]

87. Cheney and Rumsfeld came out of the Nixon/ Ford administration

Further pursuit of criminal charges would have taught these thugs a lesson.

[mtnsnake]

18. Are you seriously comparing Gerald Ford to George W Bush?

If so, you're only trivializing just how horrible George Bush is. There is NO president, with the possible exception of Nixon, who even comes close to Bush, not even Ford.

[NNN0LHI]

24. Ford pardoned a man who for political reasons mind you...

...caused the deaths of more than 30,000 American soldiers, and around a million Vietnamese civilians with his Christmas Bombings and such while committing crimes in America to keep himself in office.

You honestly think a person who did that deserved a presidential pardon?

Had Nixon and his minions all been brought to justice for all their crimes the Republican party would have likely been in shreds after it was all over. And deservedly so.

Ford knew exactly what he was doing back then. So did I. He was trying to save the Republicans from going through their national nightmare.

Because the truth never came out in a court of law we still have Republicans claiming it was Nixon who got the bad deal.

Don

[SammyWinstonJack]

25. !!

:thumbsup:

[stevedeshazer]

41. You nailed it, Don.

Thanks for saying it so well.

[hlthe2b]

44. Good points...

We as progressives have the compassion that the RW just cynically claims to have... Unfortunately, it has cost us, too

[mtnsnake]

45. Posters who stick their own words into someone elses mouth are the most ANNOYING

people on the planet.

You honestly think a person who did that deserved a presidential pardon?

This is what bothers me about someone like you. You can so easily take something I said and twist it completely around to make it look like I condoned the pardoning of Richard Nixon by Ford, when that is so far from the goddamn truth that it disgusts me how you could even question me about it.

You should think twice before you go ramming your string cheese rhetoric down my throat again, pal. No way in hell would I ever condone or trivialize Ford's pardon of Nixon, so enough with trying to make someone's subjective post look only like an objective one from one viewpoint only. How offensive...and feeble.

[Warren Stupidity]

58. Does string cheese rhetoric still play?

I thought they retired. Or was that Fish?

[mtnsnake]

66. No such band, but String Cheese Incident just played last night, I believe

Are you a Phish Phan, Warren? Good band. :smoke:

[Warren Stupidity]

73. It was a joke, lame, but a joke none thel ess.

I stopped taking LSD in the 70's, thanks.

[Golden Raisin]

21. The combo of multi-day, televised state funerals

and our inane, repulsive, 24/7 wallowing media is a deadly mix. I'm still barfing from the deification/enshrinement/propagandizing of that skunk Reagan that ensued during and after his televised funeral services.

[SammyWinstonJack]

23. I certainly hope NOT! I'm still trying to figure out what made Ford a great

president while the repubs have done nothing but vilify President Carter in the past and still do. They won't be kind to Carter after his death. They will make a point of disclosing all his "faults" while his was in Office. I hope President Clinton lives many more years, but when he is gone, I can only imagine the disrespect he will get from both the "liberal media" and the right wing slime. I doubt they will lavish upon him the praise they have given to St. raygun and now Ford. Just wait, when Poppy croaks, it will be another love fest. :puke:

[hlthe2b]

26. DIfference between a two-bit hoodlum & a murderous mob DON....

By comparison, one looks slightly less... whatever...:shrug: No such relativity for the Bushes* though.

I could make it a positive and simply say comparison of apples and oranges.

Ford was flawed and I do not agree with much that he did. He was an old school Repug and it is clear that he put party above country. Unforgiveable, but still not on the same scale of what the Bushes* have done..

[Buzz Clik]

27. Ford was a thug?

And you wonder why people put a boot up your ass.

[NNN0LHI]

36. Ford was part of the Republican Nixon/Watergate cover-up

Anyone who doesn't know that is either ignorant of history or lying or both.

Don

[Buzz Clik]

84. So a thug is someone who participates in a cover up. Okay, so who else?

Clinton? Yes.
Harry Reid? Seems so.
Sandy Berger? Without doubt.
Gary Hart? Many times over.

I could do this all day. Can you give me a name of a politician who has not suppressed information for their own benefit or the benefit of another?

Thugs, one and all, right?

[NNN0LHI]

86. Quick look over there I think I see a shiny thing

Did you forget this cover up was of an ongoing criminal conspiracy being run out of the White House that included the break-in of the Democratic National Headquarters in hopes of subverting our national elections? People actually went to jail over this deal. More should have.

Yes, that is very similar to Clinton lying about a blow job. For sure.

Don

[LoZoccolo]

28. "I don't think I am going to be able to take..."

Then leave.

[Rosemary2205]

30. Zinger.

LOL - way to whip it out! LOL :)

[Name removed]

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[Buzz Clik]

85. You can be politically opposed to conservativism and still have rational thought.

This hysteria exhibited by some about what an evil man Ford was is insanity.

[Name removed]

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[mdmc]

29. yes

Poppy

[Annces]

31. It seems like there are 2 distinct camps on threads about people who have died

The ones who want to open the whole subject up for discussion, and the ones who want to honor the death or his family. There was a similar problem that came up when Steve Irwin died.

I was not very informed about politics while Ford was President, so I defer to those who were. I have learned a lot about him, just because he died.

[NNN0LHI]

33. My post 24 pretty much sums up the way things actually happened back then

Not a single major US newspaper thought Ford did the right thing back then. Neither did I. They knew it was a case of one crook taking care of another crook just like I did. Americans in general wanted to see Nixon and his minions pay for their crimes. Just to prove that no man is above the law.

Ford changed all that and that is how we have ended up with presidents link Dimbulb. Bush figures he has nothing to lose either with the power of the pardon now because of that precedent. That is why he keeps shoving it in our faces.

Don

[The Straight Story]

32. Why not, some have done so with saddam :) (nt)

[stray cat]

34. So Ford wasn't perfect - but who is?

I think Ford was a good guy who did what he thought was right whether historically I agree or disagree on his every action. I think in many respects he got a raw deal especially now that I've lived through a president like W. I like Clinton too although I don't agree with everything he has done. I'm not so naive that I have to have a perfect leader that I completely agree with in order to respect him and his life.

[NNN0LHI]

43. So you support his position that a Republican president is above the law then?

No matter what the rascal of a Republican president does, he is above the law and should not be prosecuted for any possible crimes he may have committed and that is just fine with you? Because that is what Ford did in his short stay as president. That is what he was brought in to do.

That is not correct thinking in my world.

Don

[Va Lefty]

37. The Republics use these events attempting to rewrite history

they did it when Nixon died.(Watergate really wasn't that bad-All Presidents did what Nixon did, he just got caught. etc) They did it when Reagan died. (He won the cold war-he turned the economy around). They and their "agents" in the media are doing the same thing now with Ford and how his pardon of Nixon "healed" the country. Well I'm not buying! It set a bad precedent and Nixon deserved to go to jail like Haldeman and Ehrlichman. You can be sure they will so the same when poppy kicks off.

[Beelzebud]

38. In all likelyhood: Yes.

[Midlodemocrat]

39. Remember, we're LIVING the GWB years. A lot of posters

didn't LIVE the GRF years and are dealing with historical information.

GWB is the worst President in the history of the free world and historians will acknowledge that long after his (and my) death.

[ronnykmarshall]

42. and what about a "Goodbye Daddy" thread???

Will we have one of those???

[calzone]

46. This blogger says it so well.......

...I'll never observe any respectful period before ripping Bush. Or Ford. I certainly didn't for Reagone. Politically correct I ain't. It has nothing to do with "compassion".
___________________________________________________________________________________

-----snippage------
"It is a pleasure to record that former president Gerald R. Ford was by all accounts a good and loving son, a good and loving husband and father; that he was tender and supportive regarding health problems in his own family; and that as a political candidate and an officeholder he could get along with people. These are not small matters. There are no anecdotes of his being rude, tyrannical or overbearing with staff or with private citizens. In all his years in Washington, he built up no history – underscore no history -- of private rages or tirades, petty vendettas, cursing out the help or otherwise wantonly abusing female clerical staff among others. On the contrary, virtually everyone who dealt with him (back in the years before I moved to the DC region) seems to have found him pleasant to deal with.

But it would be a lot easier to serve up only the benign eulogies required by the solemn majesty of death, and leave it at that, if our major media outlets were not trying to shove a false “legacy of healing” down our throats 24-7. Thus, noting that 40% of our current U.S. population was not yet born when Ford pardoned Nixon, some of our most prominent media commentators seem to be diligently promoting a fiction that the pardon – before Nixon had been charged with anything – was the right thing to do.

It was not the right thing to do. It did not spare the nation; it spared Richard M. Nixon. The nation had not undergone a long nightmare with Nixon’s resignation; Nixon had. The nation had not endured a virtual state of siege with Nixon’s attempt to spy on and to steal from the opposition and then to stonewall investigation into his actions (assisted by then-head of the Republican National Committee George H. W. Bush); Nixon had. And with all due respect, most of the graybeards on television probably know that. If they don’t, they’re not qualified to be either reporters or commentators. Anyone who recollects the Seventies as being a period when public adoration of Dick Nixon was at its peak – such that seeing him answer questions about Watergate would have been simply unbearable – is remembering wrong.

I take the current debate over semantics regarding whether the pardon was a “deal” to be indirect acknowledgement of the above. Anyone who has listened to Katie Couric, Alexander Haig, Bob Schieffer and assorted historians and journalists over the past couple of days chewing over those sheets of paper that Al Haig brought to Jerry Ford can make a pretty accurate judgment. And not that one wants to promote dishonesty, but hypothetically if you ever do want to make a deal that shouldn’t be made, the game plan is simply to deny at every step that that’s what you’re doing. When you lay out the terms of the arrangement, you say, with bell-like clarity, “This is not a deal.” When the other party receives the terms, he asks, “Is this a deal?” You deny it. Then the other party is within his rights to say firmly, “This is not a deal.” Asked about the matter, you can then say into perpetuity, again firmly, “There was no deal.” This sequence of actions is not only politic but necessary; if it were a deal, after all, it would be illegal. After all, if you made no agreement (to pardon the man later, for example) reduced to writing, you could hardly attest even your own intention. Intention matters, but it is not the same as action. And as the Uniform Commercial Code states, good faith is an element in all contracts."
----snippage-----
http://www.margieburns.com/blog/_archives/2006/12/31/2609851.html

[fishwax]

49. most likely n/t

[mitchum]

50. Some sentimental fools think that death ennobles anyone...

which is really stupid considering how banal it is

[Capn Amerika]

55. I supported Ford.

When I was six years old. He was the President and that other guy, Carter(whom I disliked when I was that age) was trying to take the Presidency away from Ford. I made a construction paper sign "Ford for President" and sent it to the Whitehouse. I got a photo of Ford sent back to me. I've since grown up and respect Carter more than any other modern President. Ford was a Republican automaton, he placed the Rethug party above the good of the nation. He was a crook. Fuck him.

[NNN0LHI]

74. I thought he was alright back then too

Until he pardoned Nixon that is. Then the jig was up. He was just one of them.

Don

[Initech]

56. Hell no!

Like I said before - I was practically doing cartwheels when Reagan died.

Perhaps when Bush dies, we'll know for sure who killed JFK.

[nadinbrzezinski]

68. Is DU going to be around

by the time this piece of shit kicks the bucket?

I severely doubt it...

[NNN0LHI]

72. Bush1. The old man. He looks like death warmed over already

I would say he could go at a moments notice.

Hell, any of us can.

Don

[nadinbrzezinski]

75. Well I am tqlking Junior

as to Senior

I will take the time for the body to be under the ground before I start talking ill of him

Hell I will talk ill of his father, Prescott was a closet nazi and funded IG Farben at Aushwitz... good enough?

[Zhade]

78. We had a number of stupid fools saying that about REAGAN.

So yeah, probably.

[Solly Mack]

79. Without a doubt

[lonestarnot]

90. They say they die in threes, Wonder which two are next. Dick maybe?

And Daddy?

[mitchum]

99. Maybe Herr Doktor Kissinger?

[lonestarnot]

100. Good riddens to another serial killer if his lucky number is called.

[Omphaloskepsis]

93. People think different things.

If you can't take opposing viewpoints try turning off the computer. Seriously, you are not right about everything. I'm not just talking about Bush.

[Bridget Burke]

94. I'll be far too busy shopping for a red dress....

And sewing bells onto my dancing shoes.

[specimenfred1984]

97. Kick

Yes, the same people will be telling us to STFU. Since they call me names, I'll call them a name -- grave panderers. "Grave panderers" use the death of anyone to tell others to STFU and behave like "good people". Apparently when someone dies, there is a period in which no negative opinions may be expressed regardless of the dead person's crimes against humanity.

I don't know when the "grave panderers" STFU time period ends post-funeral, so far I can only guess that it ends when the "grave panderers" tell me it's OK to express my opinions again.

[Generic Brad]

101. I'll be puking on his grave

It will be in homage to the time he hurled on the Japanese Prime Minister. :puke: