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clbuck Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 03:40 PM
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Top 10 liberal talkers and Top 10 gripes about liberal talk in 2006 (long post)
Edited on Mon Jan-01-07 03:40 PM by CaseyBuck
Two great blog entries from our own FightingIrish:

http://ltradio.blogspot.com/2007/01/top-10-talkers-of-2006.html
http://ltradio.blogspot.com/2006/12/top-10-gripes-about-liberalprogressive.html

I can't say I agree with all of it, but it's an interesting read:

The Top 10 Talkers of 2006


As 2006 comes to a close, and we welcome 2007, LTR takes a look at the year in review as the new year approaches. And what better way to do this than publish a bunch of lists?

This one is the biggie. Here, we rank the Top 10 Talkers of 2006. Our list utilizes a criteria based on overall success, number of affiliates, growth of the show, contributions to the format, entertainment value, knowledge of current events and crossover potential. Granted, some factors will outweigh others, and those will be weighted. Political lean of the hosts will not be as much a factor, since everyone seems to have such radically different opinions on the topics of the day.

Sure, the list will prove to be somewhat controversial, and some of you will likely consider calling the DEA on me, but this list is subjective, and merely opinion. To help out, we asked you, the faithful readers, to send in your own lists. Granted, we didn't get a ton of submissions, but the results of this first-ever poll conclude this list of the Top 10 Talkers of 2006. And in the tradition of Casey Kasem, we're gonna count 'em down to #1. So... away we go!

10. Rachel Maddow

Maddow has come a long way in a few short years. With no prior radio experience, the Rhodes scholar and San Francisco native got her first radio job at WRNX in Springfield, MA via a station contest to find new on-air talent. She later moved on to the morning show at WRSI in Northampton and left to become a co-host on Air America's "Unfiltered". She was the least known of her co-hosts, but eventually overshadowed them, so much that when the show was cancelled, Air America gave her a morning show of her own. The show moved to early evenings in September, 2006 and surprisingly, her devoted following allowed her to pick up quite a few affiliates. As 2007 arrives, the future does indeed look bright for Rachel Maddow.

9. Amy Goodman

As I've said many times, liberal talk radio is much more than Air America and Ed Schultz. Case in point is Pacifica Radio, a non-commercial network that recently celebrated its 60th birthday. It's best known show is a hard-hitting news program called "Democracy Now", primarily hosted by Goodman. The show, which reports primarily on news stories seldom reported by the mainstream media and how they really affect people, is called "probably the most significant progressive news institution that has come around in some time" by media critic Bob McChesney. The daily program, which airs on hundreds of non-commercial and commercial stations as well as public access and satellite TV, covers issues relating to war and peace, human rights, and U.S. foreign and domestic policy. Many non-commercial radio programs are well known for their in-depth reporting style, but Goodman and "Democracy Now" take it to a whole new level.


8. Mike Malloy

He was fired from his syndicated gig in August. His current upstart 'network' just finally got satellite access. He currently only has five affiliates. And his hard-hitting, controversial show has often proved to be a tough sell to potential advertisers. So what is Mike Malloy doing on this list? Some may ask why he's ranked so low.

The reason is that I certainly can't think of any other talk show host who has become as much as a force as he has via webstream. His show currently airs on two stations, his low-powered flagship station, KPHX in Phoenix and the much larger KQKE in San Francisco (which at first received the show via land-lines). But thousands of listeners wind down their day with the outrageously outspoken Malloy, who often makes reference to the "flying monkey right" and the "Bush crime family". If liberal talk has not yet taken hold on the terrestrial airwaves, it certainly has via international webstreaming. And one of the reasons for that is Mike Malloy. Many also listen to him via full podcasts through White Rose Society.

Time will tell if Malloy and his fledgeling network, Nova M will succeed. They recently secured satellite access and with that, gained three new affiliates (number three, WINZ in Miami, starts airing his show tonight, January 1, 2007), as well as a slot on Sirius Left. But will it finally take hold? The nature of his show is not exactly advertiser-friendly, and he has proven to be a bit prickly as well, burning bridges with his former employer (Air America). But he draws ears to the radio (or computer or iPod, for that matter). And his show has attracted a very rabid and devoted following. Hopefully, 2007 will be a good year for Mike Malloy.

7. Bill Press

When Press debuted his morning radio show in June 2005, it started out pretty slow. The former CNN/MSNBC personality had one affiliate - WARF in Akron. Over time, his show started to gather steam. He was picked up by Jones Radio Networks, which also syndicates Stephanie Miller and Ed Schultz. Following changes at Air America, and several shufflings of radio shows, Press was able to gain new affiliates at their expense. He also picked up a prime affiliate in Sirius Satellite Radio. Granted, Press is more of a factor in the eastern half of the country, where his show airs in morning drive. But many across the country are now enjoying waking up to Press' friendly, informative style.

6. Lionel

Who would have thought that a former lawyer from Tampa would be one of the biggest forces in late night talk radio? Since debuting his show in 1999 on WOR in New York, Lionel has seen his biggest success with the advent of the modern-day liberal talk format. While Lionel may or may not be a rabid lefty, he takes a rather populist stance on many issues, and rails against the War in Iraq, FOX News and George Bush with an unbridled passion. And using his legal experience, often offers opinions from that point of view.

He is also one of the best in the format in regard to rapport with his callers, as he is not shy about taking opinions from all sides of the ideological spectrum.

5. Al Franken

I'm sure some of you will wonder why Franken is not ranked higher. After all, this established comedian, writer and actor has more or less been the public face of Air America over the past three years. But that personna has become a double-edged sword for both parties. His show has often been uneven and erratic, his reported exhorbitant salary has soured many, and his dedication to his show has been questioned, with even some of his affiliates unsure of his future plans. Some feel that the loss of co-host Katherine Lanpher hurt the show.

Nonetheless, the format does owe a great deal of thanks to Franken, since his presence in the AAR grand scheme helped bring attention to the format and to increase its affiliate lineup. He also bravely serves as the lightning rod for people who attack AAR and the format itself, as he's probably its best-known personality. But how he fits into the future of the format remains to be seen.

4. Randi Rhodes

All hail The Goddess! When Air America Radio debuted almost three years ago, the defacto star of the network was Al Franken. But Randi Rhodes, the most seasoned veteran of the network with two decades of radio experience and ten years doing liberal talk at WJNO in West Palm Beach, FL, was virtually unknown to all but die-hard liberal talk listeners who habitually streamed her WJNO show. As her network went through much turmoil throughout the course of the year and Franken has made overtures to leaving radio, it was up to Randi to keep Air America on course.

Unfortunately, her show itself can occasionally be a bit unorganized. She takes fewer and fewer calls than she once did, and her long-winded rants about various topics tend to wear down even the most die-hard of listeners. She has also become too angry, which is a shame for someone who has such a great sense of humor. This approach has even caused some stations to drop or delay her show, in favor of lighter fare for her afternoon shift. Hopefully 2007 will see The Goddess return to a much more organized and entertaining form.

3. Thom Hartmann

There wasn't a whole lot of positive news for Air America Radio in 2006, but one of the network's near-forgotten stars, and easily their hardest working one, soon became their biggest up-and-comer. After four years of doing his show, first for the now-defunct I.E. America Radio Network, then self-syndication, and finally on Air America's secondary syndication feed, author of many books, speaker, activist and radio host Thom Hartmann finally emerged as a force in the format. Late last year, KPOJ in Portland took a chance and hired him to do a seperate local morning show. Then, up the road in Seattle, KPTK started carrying him live. The result? At the beiginning of this year, Hartmann beat all other talk shows in his time slot, even Rush Limbaugh, in most key demographics. Other stations in other markets took note, and began carrying his show. He displaced Al Franken in San Francisco and Boston, among other places. And people warmed to his extremely informative no-frills show and energetic speaking style.

Granted, this is not the razzle-dazzle hyperkinetic type of radio show most are used to. The theme music and imaging are horribly dated and rather bland, and he doesn't mount the bully pulpit and scream from the mountaintops like many other hosts. But he is knowledgeable, and knows his stuff when it comes to constitutional issues, American history or electronic voting. He'll even invite the occasional conservative on for a reasonable chat. All in all, it looks as if Thom Hartmann is destined for even more success in the coming years.

2. Stephanie Miller

In 2006, more and more people chose to wake up every morning with Miller, figuratively speaking. Airing directly in morning drive throughout much of the country, Steph and company wake up America with her breezy and often humorous take on the day's news events. Morning radio should be light and fun, and Miller and her co-horts deliver it with plenty of froth, raunch and occasional lowbrow humor (or, as they refer to it, "a MENSA meeting with fart jokes"). Not to mention lots of information. Ratings seem to agree, as her show has become a big hit in many markets. So much that she's found her way onto a majority of progressive talk stations across the country. She has dominated her morning shift, to the point that many have abandoned the shift to her, including Jerry Springer.

In a radio genre that features way too many shows that are angry to the point of being downright depressing, Miller has broken away from the pack, and made the news much more fun.

And... our #1 Talker of 2006 is...

1. Ed Schultz

The top spot belongs to Big Eddie and Team Fargo. While his counterparts at Air America had some much-publicized struggles this year, Schultz turned that negative into a positive, by aggressively building his listener and advertiser base, as well as the show itself. The Ed Schultz Show was perhaps the best source on liberal talk radio for coverage of the landmark 2006 Midterm Elections, as he featured many candidates that were shut out of many mainstream news sources. He booked excellent guests, created news himself via the outing of notable Republicans, and aggressively courted advertisers, in order to bring the liberal talk format kicking and screaming into the mainstream. While some on the left may decry this move, it is most certainly the best way to ensure the survival of the format. And Schultz knows this.

Schultz is one of the best at structuring his show. He makes it entertaining and engaging by not making it too serious in nature. He won't spend too much time on news topics, preferring to mix it up a bit by engaging his listeners and callers in other topics, and even breaking away from news and politics to talk sports, hunting and business, in his typical humorous, down-home midwestern manner. Schultz realizes we all need a break now and then.

While he enjoyed increased success over the past three years, he has been a bit of a polarizing force on the left. Many on the far left feel he's too centrist, and that he spends too much time talking about things like hunting and sports. They also feel he's a bit too vicious toward his competitors, particularly Air America, though there are quite a few other hosts that the same could be said about. There are shows that are far more hard-hitting on news stories, but for the average listener, Schultz wraps it all up in an entertaining and informative package.

And what did the readers think? Here are the results, compiled from the lists that you sent in:

1. Stephanie Miller
2. Rachel Maddow
3. Randi Rhodes
4. Mike Malloy
5. Sam Seder
6. Ed Schultz
7. Marc Maron
8. Thom Hartmann
9. Bill Press
10. Lionel

Keep in mind that this is not a scientific ranking. Perhaps it would have been that way if more of you sent in your lists. Nonetheless, thanks for all who participated, and perhaps we'll do this again in a year when we ring in 2008. Happy New Year!


Top 10 gripes about liberal/progressive talk


One of the complaints received here at LTR is that we're not critical enough of the liberal talk format. With the abundance of smarmy attack blogs out there written that try to be funny, yet come off more as whiny, crude, or just plain lame, we decided to take a different overall approach with this thing. And yes, LTR can be critical of the likes of Air America and others, and there certainly is quite a bit to nit-pick about. Sure, the vultures will likely post excerpts of this article in yet more weak attempts to slam liberal talk ("See, even this guy says..."). Uhhh, not so fast. LTR personally believes in being honest and straight-forward, rather than coming off as some sort of "Baghdad Bob". After all, this blog is primarily a meeting of the like-minded, and unlike the other side, we can tackle a little constructive criticism. Consider it 'tough love'.

1. Ed Schultz needs to relax and drop the big radio voice

Big Eddie is a favorite here at LTR, and we understand why he constantly switches topics to non-political stuff like sports, fishing and grilling. After all, the ability to not overkill a topic and to enable it go down smoother makes a show stronger and more sincere. Schultz is a Joe Sixpack-kinda guy. But along with years behind a microphone comes the development of what we call 'the radio voice'. Whether Big Eddie really talks the way he does on the radio in real life is unknown, but hearing him on TV shows or while phoning in to his show on off days, he sounds much more genuine and down-to-earth than his normal bombastic on-air delivery would suggest. Schultz has been around radio for a quarter century, and much of it was doing sports broadcasts. Of course, we all know sports guys like to kick it up a notch, but many listeners gripe that he comes off sounding like a left-leaning version of El Rushbo.

2. Stephanie Miller's show occasionally suffers from overkill

Hey, don't get me wrong. Momma is brilliant, and her show is wildly entertaining. But too much of a good thing is definitely possible. Sidekick Jim Ward is very, very talented, but at times, the voice impersonations can get a little grating and drag on way too long. Okay, we've heard the Dennis Hastert jokes about bratwurst. Too many times. There is such a thing as killing a good joke.

3. Thom Hartmann's theme music/imaging really sucks

Okay, there, I said it. While Hartmann is one of the most intelligent and interesting hosts on the air, and I've probably learned more listening to him than from any other talk show host, his show production sounds like it was done by Ed Wood Studios. The theme music sounds like it's from a bad Blood, Sweat and Tears tribute band, and the voice guy, who sounds like Harry Shearer on thorazine, is pretty cheesy and mumbly, while committing the biggest crime a voice guy can commit - nobody can understand him! Hartmann's show is probably AAR's fastest-growing program, and he deserves production elements (known in the industry as 'imaging') that reflect that. Of course, there are probably many that feel the show's imaging is reflective of Hartmann's simple style. Just one listener's opinion here, but it kinda sounds lame.

4. Randi Rhodes needs to lighten up

Randi Rhodes is a very funny person. And occasionally, she'll prove that on air. Unfortunately, she tends to be more angry than funny. To the point that obvious jokes will slide right by her. And that's too bad. It takes a person with strong tolerance sometimes to sit through a one hour vicious tirade about, say, the Iraq War. Yes, it's a travesty and morally reprehensible, but talk about beating a dead horse! And she does this at the expense of airing callers, who she blows off anyway. Ed Schultz is effective at juggling topics, going off politics to talk about things like sports and barbequeing, and is very consistent in the way he handles callers. Rhodes, on the other hand, sounds like she's going to tear apart the studio at any point. Don't get me wrong - Randi is great, and her show has consistently been one of the best on Air America. But the formatting of her show (or lack thereof) shows that the network really needs to bring in an effective radio person to help keep the show on track. Otherwise, it's really tough for listeners to keep up Randi's thought processes. With a little fine tuning, Rhodes' show could be one of the best in the whole format.

5. Same with Mike Malloy

We know, we know. Mike is Mike, like it or not. And that's why we listen. But his show is not for the weak-hearted. And there is a place for a show such as his, which is perhaps the angriest show in the whole liberal talk format. However, Malloy's at his best when he's taking phone calls. Malloy's show is a perfect fit for the nighttime hours, and is one of the most intimate and personal three hours on the airwaves. Not to mention that his following is one of the most dedicated of all talk show hosts. Hearing callers on the Mike Malloy show gives a kind of community feel to the show, and reassures us that we are not alone. Quite frankly, I'd like to be reminded of that even more.

6. Air America needs to be more about radio and less about the bully pulpit

When the creators of Air America initially announced their intentions of starting up a liberal talk network, I held out hope for one important thing: That it not be merely a propaganda engine. Unfortunately, that's what it seemed to become at times. Some of the powers-that-be at the upstart network made a huge error when they saw AAR as an opinion maker, or a way to influence elections. While I agree with their point of view, it is not an effective way to create a successful radio operation. First and foremost, it has to be about entertainment value. Let's face it, most talk radio out there is basically just entertainment. And while we may loathe someone like Rush Limbaugh, we must admit that he understood this important quality. When radio shows simply become mouthpieces for political parties (as we have seen conservotalk shows, including Limbaugh's, become), it makes for very boring, insulting radio. Luckily, some hosts, such as Schultz, Miller, KTLK's Cary Harrison and others realize this. Even Hartmann, who has turned informative and intellectual programming into an entertaining and captivating three hours, understands this. It's not all about having a big megaphone. It's knowing how to effectively use it.

7. Air America needs to polish their programming

Air America's on-air staff, all Al Franken jokes aside, could easily be referred to as the modern-day "Not Ready For Prime Time Players". They made the right decision to hire good, experienced radio personnel such as Randi Rhodes and Rachel Maddow. And even new host Jon Elliot is not too bad (though he's saddled with the stigma of being the guy who replaced Malloy). But some of their shows are in need of some work. The Young Turks, at times, sound like cable access programming. Sam Seder, though a listener favorite, too often sounds a bit sloppy on the air without a sidekick. And a whole staff of writers and producers can't turn a low-key Al Franken into an effective radio entertainer like Phil Hendrie. Let's be brutally honest, Air America needs to hone their on-air product. It's in dire need of some serious zip. Established operations such as Jones Radio Networks have been successful with creating shows that engage and entertain. Even Clear Channel has been effective with their local programming (take a listen to Stacy Taylor, Jay Marvin, Jim Defede or Cary Harrison for proof). AAR's on-air product can at times sound a bit crude, and this reflects badly on many of their shows. The hosts also need to create their own identities, apart from the AAR structure, as their shows occasionally become more about the internal politics of their employer than the politics of this country. When the fill-in hosts over the holidays (including Marc Maron, Stacy Taylor and Lee Rayburn) start sounding better than the people they're subbing for, that certainly says alot.

8. Air America needs to stop charging for their podcasts

Rush can get away with this, since his dittoheads will cough up the money for anything he's selling. I guess Sean Hannity can as well, since there's a sucker born every minute. Bill O'Reilly? Hell no, he can't even attract radio listeners. But for a struggling network like Air America, which could most certainly use some strong promotion, charging money for their top-tier podcast content is not the best idea in the world. Sure, the bandwidth can cost some money, but podcasting is all a part of effectively promoting the on-air product. Most talk shows nowadays make available podcasts of their shows, and Clear Channel and CBS especially have been very aggressive on this front. Mike Malloy's show has grown over the years due to aggressive audio archiving. Ben Burch has been archiving a healthy selection of liberal talk shows for several years at White Rose Society. Non-commercial outlets such as NPR, PRI and Pacifica have been effectively utilizing podcasts for quite some time. Even Stephanie Miller has recently gotten out of the pay plan, now offering podcasts of her shows to the unpaying masses. Sorry, but AAR is not at the point yet where they should be charging listeners to hear or sample the shows, especially since a lot of the free stuff out there is in many ways superior to much of their own content. I'm not being cheap here (okay, maybe I am), but free podcasts, even snippets such as the ones Ed Schultz offers, are not a bad way to get the product into peoples' ears. Especially with podcasting becoming such an integral part of talk radio.

9. Air America needs a new webmaster

Old news on the front page. Outdated schedules. A list of affiliates that includes stations that no longer carry them. And is Peter Werbe still even on Air America? Granted, not all people really grasp the concept of HTML programming, but coming from someone who taught himself the basics and designed and updated this entire blog, this is a travesty. AAR doesn't deserve all the scorn for this, in fact, the websites for some of their individual affiliates are far more embarassing. But really, does AAR still need a front page announcement declaring the arrival of The Young Turks, THREE months after the fact?

10. Al Franken is really, really, really boring

There. I said it. I'll be brutally honest with all of you. Al Franken, while being a rather funny guy, is a bit of a bore. Allegedly, AAR employs a generous staff of writers to help prop up the show. Guess what? It ain't working. Sure, Al can really turn it on in front of a crowd, and at times he can be quite good. But more often than not, it sounds like he could really care less about doing a radio show. It's too tough to relate to him. And while we're on that topic, it's high time for Al to determine where he wants to take his show, if he plans on taking it anywhere. The rumors and stories about his political aspirations, not to mention interests in other areas of the entertainment world, are very distracting, and are hurting the show terribly. So much that some affiliates have either dropped it or timeshifted it out of prime hours. Even Schultz moved his show to compete with him. Franken needs to make up his mind once and for all, since this foot-dragging is only going to hurt the show in the long run. My personal hope is that he finally decides to leave on a high note and cede his shift to the much-superior Thom Hartmann, a dedicated radio host in it for the long haul. How's that for brutal honesty?
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mconvente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 03:54 PM
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1. Interesting comments/suggestions
My comment is, however, do progressives realize what is left if AAR goes down? Not much, especially in the NYC area. Yes, some of the programs and hosts need some re-tooling, but compared to the alternative (Rush, Hannity, etc) AAR is a godsend. Should we strive for the best programming possible? Of course. But we should not take for granted how we have a radio network championing our views. I know as liberals we like things fast and active, but I'd rather have a sometimes boring Al Franken show any day of the week over fat ass limpballs.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 04:04 PM
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2. Good post
Edited on Mon Jan-01-07 04:05 PM by Bluzmann57
And I agree about Randi Rhodes needing to lighten up somewhat. She is frequently rude to callers, even those who agree with her and doesn't seem to understand humor sometimes. The thing Stephanie has; "the computer says no"' is becoming really annoying as well. Perhaps when they are back from break, they will have fresh material.
I'm sure that many many people in here will ask why Ed Schultz is ranked no. 1. Here's partially why. Very few people have done more for progressive talk than Ed Schultz. As mentioned in the article, he is a "Joe Six Pack" type of personality that us working stiffs can relate to. You see, we like sports, grilling, fishing, etc. and it's kind of nice to hear a radio host talking about those things while still staying on message. Schultz sometimes irritates me, but isn't that one of this country's strengths, being able to have civilized debate? Other hosts would be wise to allow debate on their shows.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 04:06 PM
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3. Hartmann's bumper music has been kicking ass lately --
Edited on Mon Jan-01-07 04:07 PM by IndyOp
Lots of variety and optimistic themes. And, yes, his theme music ->

da-da-da-DA
da-da-da-da
da-da-da-DA
da-da-da-da

...really could use an update -- to say 1950 or so?

And as for Al Franken leaving on a high note and ceding his shift to the much-superior Thom Hartmann, a dedicated radio host in it for the long haul? I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS.

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

I have to say that I don't find Al boring - or terrible, I just prefer Thom. If Al stays, that is fine with me, but Thom *must* be moved into the AAR primary show line up. Must.

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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 04:19 PM
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4. The number 1 spot goes to the only on-air Repuke on the list?
After two years, I'm still waiting to hear an unqualified liberal position from him.

Personally, I think Thom Hartmann and Amy Goodman are miles better than anybody else on the list.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 04:29 PM
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6. Right - the problem is that Ed isn't a liberal.
How can the #1 progressive radio host NOT be progressive?
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 04:25 PM
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5.  I have to hand the number 1 to Malloy
He may be angry , however this anger expresses what many of us feel these days . It's an anger with a personal extension to the callers .

He does not hold back on any issue while other hosts glide past the truth not allowing it to burn in .

In this day we need a bit of fire .

Also he makes the callers feel like part of the show not simply a spring board to a subject .
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 04:31 PM
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7. Unmitigated anger is an appropriate & sane response to outrageous insanity gaining political power.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 04:58 PM
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8. Okay, blame me for everything!
Yep, I wrote it. And yes, I knew that there would be a little controversy here, particularly since Ed Schultz is met with such varied opinions at DU.

Nonetheless, I can't think of anyone who's done more for the format this year. While Schultz may of may not be your personal favorite, you have to admit that he's pretty damned determined to make the format work on a mainstream scale. And without that, we're back to bitching about Rush Lowbrow clones polluting the AM dial.

My criteria, as posted at the beginning of the article was as follows:

Our list utilizes a criteria based on overall success, number of affiliates, growth of the show, contributions to the format, entertainment value, knowledge of current events and crossover potential. Granted, some factors will outweigh others, and those will be weighted. Political lean of the hosts will not be as much a factor, since everyone seems to have such radically different opinions on the topics of the day.

As for my personal favorites, i.e. the stuff I actually listen to, some of them aren't even on this list. And some of the people on this list I don't listen to on a regular basis. I decided to do my own power ranking of sorts, based on where they stand from a radio standpoint, in regard to the whole format.


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Tekla West Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 05:36 PM
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9. have to agree
pretty good review here, and I agree that Al F. is boring. Too interested in being amusing then in doing political stuff.

The talk radio format as invented by old El Rushbo his good old pill popping (cause its entertainment after all) days is not a good one for liberal ideas. Which I'm sure thrills him to no end. The liberal attack does not work out as well on radio (perhaps because its sane) as much as that old Father Coglin, Adolph Hitler ranting.

I think the proof of that is how abrasive that Mike Malloy comes across. And I love him, that signature line of "Did I tell you how much I HATE these people" thrills me. But its not as funny, or not as easy to take as the right wing stuff - too real perhaps, but A. Coulter can joke about taking out a Supreme Court justice and hey, its all in good fun, so who knows.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 06:04 PM
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10. Except for Thom Hartmann and Rachel Maddow
I could not care less if AA goes down the shitter. I've been unhappy with their management and their business plan ever since the XM deal. Randi is an old radio hand and she will land on her feet regardless of what happens to AA. My rankings are similar except I would rate Maddow well ahead of Franken who is indeed very very boring. His show ain't terrible probably because he is able to bring in the best guests but he is no radio personality. Schultz and Miller are the only shows I listen to regularly.
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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 06:46 PM
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11. Hoq about run it like a buisness?
AAR first funding round left it tainted in the buisness community. If the market is financially viable, it needs to be run like a media buisness, not like KPRK or WKRP for that matter.

Progressive radio can and should be self supporting but we need to stop looking at it like calling and more like a media business where ratings and monthly revenue streams matter
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clbuck Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 04:45 PM
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12. Kick
:kick:
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