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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 11:03 AM
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Do you think Gerald Ford will go to Heaven? Poppy just said he would.
Kissinger speaking now. This funeral alone is enough to keep him out IMO. The BFEE, Cheney, Condi, Gonzales. Yuck, time for a shower.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 11:05 AM
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1. Not unless Heaven is a bar in hell.
:P
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:39 PM
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36. That is Hell, Michigan:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 11:06 AM
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2. I hate questions like this
If I believed in heaven or hell, I'd hope that I'd have enough goddamn humility to not speculate on who gets sent where.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 11:11 AM
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3. Cali, I don't know if I even believe in Heaven and Hell. I lean toward thinking
you live it here on Earth. But when I heard Poppy say that in his eulogy, it made me think about it for the first time. And then Henry Kissinger got up to speak! Just made me wonder what others might think.
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novalib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 11:35 AM
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9. WHY IN THE HELL ARE YOU WATCHING THAT TRAVESTY???!!!
Just curious -- what ON EARTH possesses you to watch or listen to that travesty going on in the National Cathedral???!!!

Almost ANYTHING would be better than listening to a bunch of NAZIs eulogize a SLIMEBALL like Ford!!!!
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 11:28 AM
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5. If I believed in Heaven and Hell...
I couldn't imagine what the point of either of them would be if someone like Ford got into Heaven.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 12:13 PM
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14. Sorry, you don't know enough about
the human heart or soul to make the judgement that Ford should be in hell. No human does. And that's why humility about such things is desirable.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 11:26 AM
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4. It depends on Ford
I see heaven as a state of being that is achieved by an individual by dissolving the veils between themselves and The One.
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 11:30 AM
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6. Must be the truth then
Cons never lie to God, except when they think or talk.
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novalib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 11:32 AM
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7. HELL NO!!!!!
Ford in Heaven???!!!

Ford IN HEAVEN???!!!!

HELL NO HE WON'T GO (to Heaven, that is!!)

ANYONE who pardonned a piece of slime like that LIAR and DESTROYER Richard Nixon MUST go to HELL!!!

In fact, I once yelled "GO TO HELL" at Ford when he was President!!!

I'm GLAD I did it, and I HOPE he is THERE NOW!!!!!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 11:58 AM
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12. I never wish people in hell.
Put aside for a moment that I don't believe in hell. There's something I find really stomach churning about people who as judgemental as you are.
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novalib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 12:35 PM
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15. Aren't You The SPECIAL ONE???!!
My, My!

Aren't you the SPECIAL ONE.

You say you find judgemental (sic) people churning.

I find SANCTIMONIOUS people DOUBLY churning!!!!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 12:37 PM
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16. What's with the generous use of
caps? It hardly impresses.
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novalib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 12:39 PM
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17. PASSION!!
I do NOT use caps to IMPRESS!!!

In fact, I don't do ANYTHING to impress!

I do it as a means of expressing my intense PASSION!!
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 12:46 PM
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20. People who use all caps don't go to heaven.
Some things are not forgiveable.
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novalib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:16 PM
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21. People Who Tell Others
People who say things like "People who use all caps don't go to heaven" DON'T GO TO HEAVEN, either!!!!!

I don't know of a SINGLE PERSON here who uses ALL CAPS!!

So why in the HELL would you post such a ridiculous post!???

It makes NO SENSE at all!

And it is VERY JUDGMENTAL besides!
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:17 PM
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22. Like I care - I don't believe in heaven.
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novalib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:19 PM
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23. NO -- Like I CARE!!!
I believe in NIRVANA!!!!

Is NOTHING Sacred???!!!!

Yes YES IT IS!!!
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:21 PM
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24. No, nothing is sacred.
And if anything is sacred, it is appropriate use of all caps on message boards.

No Nirvana for you.
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novalib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:25 PM
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26. YES! (Can't You Read??!!)
Like I said:

YES. It (Nothing) is Sacred.

Nothing = Sacred.

NOTHING = SACRED!!!

NOTHING IS SACRED!

Who here uses ALL CAPS on message boards!!???

Stop being a Nirvana Nazi, please!!
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:28 PM
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29. No Nirvana For You.
Access denied.
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novalib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:32 PM
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30. NOTHING!
NOTHING can stop me from gaining Nirvana!!

Nothing -- and ONLY NOTHING -- can stop me from gaining Nirvana!!!

Are YOU nothing??!!
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:35 PM
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31. Is there anything anybody here can do to help you to gain it?
Like soon?
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novalib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:40 PM
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37. NOTHING Can HELP Me!
Since NOTHING is sacred, then NOTHING Can Help me.

I pray to NOTHING.

I appreciate your offer to find me someone to help me find Nirvana, but I'm afraid there's really NOTHING I can do about it.

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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:36 PM
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34. You prevent yourself.
"Within passion, Nirvana is achieved."
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:25 PM
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25. Heh. I'm with Yeats
As my tagline says: "The worst are filled with passionate intensity."
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novalib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:26 PM
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28. So SPECIAL!!
You are just TOO TOO SPECIAL!!!

I wish I were like YOU!!

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 04:10 PM
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 12:46 PM
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19. Isn't heaven all about pardoning sin?
I don't believe in any heaven.

But isn't forgiveness the principle?
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 11:34 AM
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8. I'm certainly not qualified to judge.
When it comes to the sum total of someone's value as human being, and their eternal reward or punishment, I'll leave that up to the almighty.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 11:35 AM
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10. I think he'll rot in the earth.
Just like everyone else.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 11:50 AM
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11. Heaven
So God is supposed to 'Pardon' Ford?
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 12:13 PM
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13. ain't no heaven
but if there was, no repukes would be allowed
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Capn Amerika Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 12:44 PM
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18. That is how you know their brand of Christianity is bullshit.
Edited on Tue Jan-02-07 12:44 PM by Capn Amerika
I saw a clergyman at Ford's first funeral say the same thing. Isn't that 'contempt of the lord' or some such other biblical law?
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:25 PM
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27. poppy don't decide who goes to heaven
i'm sure he'll see ford again one day in the inner circles of hell
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:35 PM
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32. Well, it Poppy said it, it must be true!
:rofl:
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:36 PM
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33. FIRST, it would be NICE if SOMEBODY would just
Edited on Tue Jan-02-07 01:48 PM by A-Schwarzenegger
BURY THE POOR APPOINTED LUNK!

They're taking him on another plane ride?!

BURY THE POOR DEAD BODY!
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:37 PM
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35. I don't believe in heaven. Santa doesn't live at the north pole either.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:46 PM
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38. According to Hunter S Thompson, Ford didn't think so
I'm always glad for a chance to post this classic piece:

Richard Nixon is gone now and I am poorer for it. He was the real thing--a political monster straight out of Grendel and a very dangerous enemy. He could shake your hand and stab you in the back at the same time. He lied to his friends and betrayed the trust of his family. Not even Gerald Ford, the unhappy ex-president who pardoned Nixon and kept him out of prison, was immune to the evil fallout. Ford, who believes strongly in Heaven and Hell, has told more than one of his celebrity golf partners that "I know I will go to hell, because I pardoned Richard Nixon."

www.counterpunch.org/thompson02212005.html






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Spirochete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 03:37 PM
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39. He might go to hell
if he does, he'll probably tumble down the stairs on his way in.
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