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Tuesday_Morning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:00 PM
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The AP makes me sick!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/1/2/235/93577

Great diary at dkos by theyrereal... talks about the audacious bias in this article:


AP Asks: Why So Many Upset by Iraq Death Toll?

Gee, I wonder....

My favorite parts:


Some wonder if U.S. society, now populated by baby boomers who recall Vietnam and never knew the hardships of the Great Depression or World War II, has simply lost its stomach for great sacrifices. Or perhaps in a materialistic culture, priorities are simply elsewhere now.


and...

Greater wealth and smaller families make Americans even more protective of their children and more loath to send them into battle than they once were, some argue. They are "sort of hothouse kids," says Harvey Sapolsky, the retired head of security studies at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, who notes, "My grandparents had seven kids, my parents had two."


link to the AP article:

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003526309
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:06 PM
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1. Usually when someone is proud of what they wrote they put their name on it!
Edited on Tue Jan-02-07 01:07 PM by Maraya1969
I can't find one. Did the press machines just have a party during the night?

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Fierce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:07 PM
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2. Why is this bad? I think it's a great question.
It's a softball question that brings together the answers we claim to want: A majority of people think this war is useless.
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Tuesday_Morning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:16 PM
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7. It's pushing a particular narrative.
It's manipulative. It doesn't really discuss the whys and hows re: how the majority of people don't support the war. Nothing about the lies, the shifting of reasons were there, the profiteering. No facts. Instead, it editorializes, hiding behind unauthored phrases like: (this country's) "lost its stomach for great sacrifices."

If it were a real discussion re: support/lack of support for this war, I'd welcome it.
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Tuesday_Morning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:32 PM
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11. And, most importantly, I think
this is written with no real sense of the human cost of this war.
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Fierce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 02:01 PM
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12. Hm.
I guess I thought that's what a "great sacrifice" was.

Great as in large, not great as in a good thing.
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twilight_sailing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:07 PM
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3. Perhaps it is that we boomers
remember that we, America, killed between 1 and 3 million people, human souls, in our adventures in Vietnam.

And what was that for? Someone remind me.
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twilight_sailing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:09 PM
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4. "lost its stomach for great sacrifices"
Sacrifices for what, exactly?

No, I mean exactly. What?
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:12 PM
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5. that's my question, too
Sacrifices? Perhaps Americans are smart enough to realize the nature of the sacrifice -- that the beneficiaries of that sacrifice are war profiteers and elite industrialists.

Ha! The people have wised up. And Bushco couldn't convince enough of them that the sacrifice was for freedom.
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twilight_sailing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:15 PM
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6. We have tax cuts during war time,
no rich kids I KNOW are in the Army, who is doing the sacrificing?

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Tuesday_Morning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:20 PM
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8. I like what theyrereal says here:
They come up with insulting and asinine theories like this one:

Greater wealth and smaller families make Americans even more protective of their children and more loath to send them into battle than they once were, some argue. They are "sort of hothouse kids," says Harvey Sapolsky, the retired head of security studies at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, who notes, "My grandparents had seven kids, my parents had two."

Oh sure! Families were always willing to send a few of their excess litters off to die for the lie, back in the "good old days". It was like "Yeah, take old Charley. He's kinda dumb. And that other kid, whasshisname, that one hidin' behind the chair, he's kind of a runt, take him, too!".
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:20 PM
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9. "My grandparents had seven kids, my parents had two"
Did either grow up to be adults?
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kickysnana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:23 PM
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10. Those generations wrote the Geneva Convention and started the UN
They didn't want any more such sacrifices for their descendants. This guy is just another chicken hawk pushing for the needless deaths of others for some romantic notion of war and death.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 02:03 PM
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13. How about, when Americans are LIED into a war, they are unhappy????
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