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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:41 PM
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Enough with Ford's ceremonies already.
Jeeze...for the past week in the news it's been nothing but nonstop coverage of services, minute-by-minute updates on the casket's current location, etc, etc, etc.

The man is dead, for God's sake. Let's move on already.
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:42 PM
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1. Tip: Your TV has an OFF button. Use it.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:45 PM
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3. I second that! NT
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:46 PM
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4. I have watched little or no TV for that reason. Guess that's why
I thought the funeral was so lovely. I wasn't "Forded" out....
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:48 PM
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5. Good suggestion
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:54 PM
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8. Absolutely! Without a doubt best post of the day.
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novalib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:57 PM
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10. TIP: You Really Do Not NEED To Post
Here's a TIP:

You really do not NEED to post on threads such as this one!
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:58 PM
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12. But... but... that would delegitimize my pious rage! (nt)
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 02:11 PM
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16. The "news" consists of more than just the TV, Bub.
Edited on Tue Jan-02-07 02:14 PM by Squatch
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Little Wing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:45 PM
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2. And deliver the mail, please!
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:50 PM
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6. Yeah, so we can all start paying those Christmas credit card bills. nt
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:53 PM
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7. Will you be saying the same for Carter or Clinton? Just asking...
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novalib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:56 PM
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9. DEFINITELY NOT!!!!
But then, unlike SLIMEBALL FORD, both CARTER and CLINTON were GREAT PERSONS and WONDERFUL Presidents who TRULY made the world a better place!!

Ford = SLIMEBALL

Carter = Nobel Peace Prize WINNER

Clinton = Good President!

See the Difference??!!!
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:58 PM
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11. Carter was involved in East Timor also. So why not?
Edited on Tue Jan-02-07 01:59 PM by xultar
Why be so 2 faced crazy-assed about it?

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JetCityLiberal Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 02:00 PM
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14. I'm with you novalib
Great post. And I could care less what people at a right wing "moran" website have to say about anything.

He took care of his 'pals'. Period. Slimeball is spot on.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 02:07 PM
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15. Hmm.
Could you possibly think in more black and white terms? I hate to dash your delusional little contstruct, but Carter supported Indonesia in East Timor, not to mention the thugs in El Salvador and Nicaragua. Even after Archbishop Romero sent Carter a letter begging him not to continue arming the murderous thugs, Carter did so. Romero, of course, was murdered.
Clinton supported the sanctions against Iraq that killed so many.

Humans are complex. They make terrible mistakes. That does not, in and of itself, make them terrible, evil people.

http://www.zmag.org/chomsky/sam/sam-2-02.html
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novalib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 02:51 PM
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17. SO. EVEN BEFORE HE DIES!!!!
So.

Even before the death of President Jimmy Carter (who was definitely NOT a perfect President), there are SOME on THIS VERY MESSAGE BOARD who would suggest that IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE whether a DEMOCRAT or a SLIMEBALL REPUBLICAN IS IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!!!

I CANNOT BELIEVE MY EYES when I read posts like yours!!!!

Is this or is this not DEMOCRATIC Underground???!!!!!

Yet, EVEN BEFORE THEY DIE, you are quite willing to call me "DELUSIONAL" because I state that CARTER and CLINTON were NOWHERE NEAR the SLIMEBALL that Ford and Nixon were!!!!

I'll tell you what --- I'll Continue my little "delusional" posts DEFENDING DEMOCRATIC PRESDIENTS LIKE CLINTON and CARTER.

YOU and YOUR KIND can be the kind who delight in TEARING DOWN some of the GREATEST PRESIDENTS who have ever served.

YOU and YOUR KIND can be the ones who think that CLINTON and CARTER were NO BETTER than NIXON and FORD!!!!!

WTF???!!!!!
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 02:55 PM
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18. "You and your kind"???
:eyes:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 02:57 PM
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19. Do you make it a habit to be hysterical and misinterpret
everything. I've never said it makes no difference whether a repub or a dem is in the WH. I've never voted for a republican for President, and I can't imagine ever doing so. Of course I think Carter and Clinton were better than Ford. As for Nixon- phht. You missed the point entirely.

BTW, do you think all republicans are evil scum? Because you'll really flip a gasket when I tell you I happily voted for a repub for US Senator as recently as 2000, and I've never regretted the votes I cast for dear old Senator Jeffords.
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novalib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 03:03 PM
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24. We Are NOT Talking About ALL Republicans!
WHY in the world would you ask me such a ridiculous question as whether I think all republicans are evil scum?

We are NOT talking about ALL republicans!!!!!

We are talking about FORD and Nixon!!!

YOU are the one who spoke ill of President Carter!!!

YOU are the one who seems intent on tearing down his accomplishments, and EQUATING him to SLIMEBALL FORD!!!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 03:06 PM
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25. LOL
Sorry, I know I shouldn't laugh at you, but you're being so ridiculous and over the top that I can't help it. Bullshit. Virtually every word of it.
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novalib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 03:09 PM
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26. I GUESS
I guess when YOU cannot address ANYTHING I say (except to say that you are laughing at it), YOU really have run out of arguments to DEFEND YOUR UNDEFENSIBLE position!!

You say TERRIBLE things about the TWO LIVING DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTS, and then YOU say that I am "OVER THE TOP" and that I am RIDICULOUS!!!

Well.

L. O. FUCKING L.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 03:20 PM
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28. Oh for the love of xanax
take a chill pill. I've addressed all of your hysterical claims. What on earth is wrong with you? Do you have any idea what you sound like?
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novalib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 03:32 PM
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34. DO NOT!
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!

Do NOT tell me what to do!!

Do NOT tell me to take a "chill pill"!!!

I HAVE NO NEED TO CHILL!! I'm FINE!

I KNOW what I sound like!

Do you have any idea how DIRECTIONAL and ELITIST and CONDESCENDING YOU sound??!!
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 03:37 PM
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37. Good Lord, man. You're freaking out the natives.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 03:00 PM
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22. Yikes!
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 03:20 PM
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29. Bill Clinton was NOT "one of the greatest Presidents who ever served"
Not by any stretch of the imagination.

Not by adopting Republican issues like welfare reform.

And certainly NOT by caving in on a "compromise" like "Don't Ask Don't Tell" and signing a truly disgusting piece of legislation, the Defense of Marriage Act.

As it was said on another post, reflecting on the legacies of past Presidents, it isn't all black and white.
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novalib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 03:33 PM
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35. He Was BETTER BY FAR!!!
I take your point.

BUT he was MUCH BETTER BY FAR than either SLIMEBALL Ford or Nixon!!!

I REFUSE to put either President CLINTON or CARTER in the same category as SLIMEBALL Ford or Nixon!!

There is JUST NO COMPARISON!
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 03:42 PM
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40. Protocol is protocol, regardless of our individual personal feelings about the deceased.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 05:30 PM
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49. But all of them are presidents, and as such it's not about whether
they were good presidents or not, just that they were presidents, and certain decorum is followed. Doesn't bother me. I just change the channel if I'm not interested.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 03:30 PM
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33. I'm hoping Carter is planning something much simpler...
assuming that he passes before Clinton. I think Clinton will probably want all of the pomp and circumstance, but something tells me Carter won't.

This is all getting so imperialistic and needs to be toned down imo.

At any rate, Poppy is looking very bad and will probably be the next one, all bets are off for what the Bush clan has planned, it will probably resemble a Roman circus. But I do know this, there won't be one tear shed from my eyes.

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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 03:41 PM
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39. I could not have picked a better word to describe this:
"Imperialistic" indeed. :thumbsup:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 03:49 PM
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43. I'm fairly certain that I've read that Carter does have plans
for a state funeral. I suspect that all the pomp and circumstance will be present there as well. Really not surprising We don't have many Presidents, and humans, including Americans, seem to have an inate need for ceremony and ritual. The state, of course, doesn't mind capitalizing on this fact in the least.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 04:00 PM
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44. I don't begrudge the state funerals...
but I think one would be sufficient.
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Zazulitch01 Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 05:31 PM
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50.  don't begrudge the state funerals.
Do you really believe that burying a dead president is worth almost half a billion dollars?
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 02:00 PM
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13. "I hope this thread gets locked", LOL
It's soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo sick, whannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!

Just kidding.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 02:59 PM
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20. you got a channel changer on your remote?
you can always change the channel or turn it off altogether.

Anytime a President dies, there is a state funeral. Deal with it.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 03:01 PM
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23. Who said I was watching TV?
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 03:24 PM
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30. okay, then check out a different website or radio station
Edited on Tue Jan-02-07 03:25 PM by onenote
You must be referring to tv, radio, or the web, unless of course you get "minute by minute" updates from your local newspaper.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 03:28 PM
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32. So, basically, I should sequester myself in a sensory deprivation chamber
until this ridiculous Ford post-mortem party is over.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 03:37 PM
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36. no, you should watch one of the 150 tv channels that aren't covering it
Edited on Tue Jan-02-07 03:37 PM by onenote
or listen to any of the dozens of radio stations, or check out one or more of the millions of websites that aren't covering it. Or read it a book, listen to music, write emails or letters, or do any of the zillion things that don't constitute either following the Ford funeral or being in a "sensory deprivation chamber"

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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 03:40 PM
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38. Ah, for fuck's sake. I, for one, do not think 24-7 coverage of a dead person
is particularly newsworthy. Unless that dead person happens to be #3001 (quick...without looking it up, can you tell me when we achieved *that* landmark?)
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novalib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 03:43 PM
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41. AND It's NOT OVER YET!!!!
We still have the FUCKING BURIAL Ceremony tomorrow!!!

TOMORROW -- a WEEK after he kicked off!!

They need to plant him so he can start pushing up some daisies!!!

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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 03:44 PM
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42. then don't watch channels that are covering it 24/7
there are plenty of other channels out there, on TV, radio, websites, etc.

And since you asked, its my understanding that the 3001st US fatality in iraq occurred on the 31st of December.

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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 04:29 PM
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47. that's even worse
Edited on Tue Jan-02-07 04:31 PM by SemperEadem
whatever you were using draws electricity and has an off button on it.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 03:00 PM
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21. I need to know if Ford is still dead.
Or whether we're about to be overrun by zombies.
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novalib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 03:16 PM
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27. Presidentissimo Ford Is STILL DEAD
Like Generalissimo Franco, PRESIDENTISSIMO Ford is STILL DEAD!

But there are STILL ZOMBIES among US!!
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 03:27 PM
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31. At least it wasn't as bad as the puke-inducing week-long St. Reagan worship fest.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 04:05 PM
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45. So post about something else then. nt
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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 04:21 PM
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46. Yes, for godsake. Somebody important died and is getting no coverage...
James Brown is far more important a historical figure than Gerald Ford. (And no, I'm not being sarcastic)

Doubt it? See 'Soul Survivor', the documentary about his life.
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Zazulitch01 Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 05:28 PM
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48. Enough with Ford's ceremonies already.
If chevy chase were still portraying him on SNL he'd have had
falling out of his casket. 
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 05:32 PM
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51. So don't watch it
simple enough. :shrug:
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 05:37 PM
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53. You're about 6 hours too late.
Somebody already used that tired old line.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 05:36 PM
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52. If I may, "change the channel" folks, could I at least have my mail?
I am expecting a check and this additional vacation day tacked onto the weekend is fast becoming a hardship for me, was it really necessary to suspend mail service today?
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