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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 09:39 PM
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Gerald Ford: I've learned both new respect and disappointment in the man...
Edited on Tue Jan-02-07 10:05 PM by RiverStone
Honestly, I had not thought much at all about President Gerald Ford until his death. Reflecting over the events and revelations since he died; I must admit to being both surprised and disappointed in the man, but for reasons I would not have guessed.

First the respect:

Hearing and reading so much about Gerald Ford the past few days has given me a fresh perspective and softened my view on his pardoning of criminal Nixon. With the benefit of hindsight and a fresh perspective on the man's integrity; I do see how Ford felt that by pardoning Nixon, it would allow the country to move on and heal. Otherwise he believed, we would have been faced with continued acrimony and rage that was already tearing the country apart. The angry fires of protest would have been fed for two more years and we all would have bared witness to Nixon's lengthy trial. So at his own political peril (and it cost him big), he pardoned Tricky Dick.

I now believe Ford's intent was sound and heartfelt; though I still question the method. I would have liked to see Nixon held accountable by more then just the judgment of history. Though no longer do I judge Ford as weak for pardoning Nixon based on backroom deals or a misguided friendship. Right or wrong, I believe he did it to bring people together and move on. I do respect him for that, even as I disagree with the outcome.

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And the disappointment:

President Ford said the following in a interview with Bob Woodward in July 2004:

"Rumsfeld and Cheney and the president made a big mistake in justifying going into the war in Iraq. They put the emphasis on weapons of mass destruction," Ford said. "And now, I've never publicly said I thought they made a mistake, but I felt very strongly it was an error in how they should justify what they were going to do."

Though nobody (publicly anyway) knew that was how he felt. Ford told Bob Woodward that the above comment's could be published anytime after his death. Why did he wait? Why would a man of such seeming integrity give a damn what BushCo thought of him? The fact that Ford OK'd the comments to eventually reach the public eye suggests he wanted his views known. Though why did he not express those views, that the Iraq war was a big mistake, 2.5 years ago? He kept quiet out of respect for who? Shrub? I believe Ford would have garnished even more respect historically had he had the courage to express such truth while he was alive. I don't understand why he kept quiet on a matter of such great importance? That leaves me confused.

link to interview:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/27/AR2006122701558.html

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So, I'm left with new feelings of both respect and disappointment in the man.


President Gerald Ford - RIP.



edit: spelling




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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 09:43 PM
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1. Maybe it was out of respect for the office of the presidency
and believing that it's somehow unseemly for an ex-president to criticize a current one. It seems like none of the ex-presidents have taken Jr. to task as much as they should have.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 09:48 PM
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3. Only one has had the gonads to criticize the selected King.
Carter.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 09:44 PM
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2. The inside tract in GR says he kept quiet for the sake of his wife and family
knowing he could not change facts as they exist and not wanting to rain down condemnation on himself or his family until after he was gone. So much for that idea.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 09:52 PM
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4. Ford had a +70% approval rating when he pardoned Nixon
Edited on Tue Jan-02-07 09:52 PM by NNN0LHI
He thought with that kind of popularity he could take the hit for pardoning Nixon and still get reelected.

He was wrong.

No one I knew at the time wanted to move on. We all wanted Nixon in jail. But Ford told us that a president was above the law. Laws were only for us dregs of society. Laws were not for rich and famous people like Nixon.

Don
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 09:56 PM
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5. Protocal
to not critize the standing President. I know some people here say the hell with protocal but still what if Ford, Reagan, Carter and Poppy had jumped on Clinton about everything he did. If you had that kind of thing continually going on the leader could never do anything.
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brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 10:11 PM
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6. I was especially touched
by the dignity and grief of his children. That alone tells me what I need to know about the Man. The President will be judged by history. That's enough for me.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 10:21 PM
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7. Ford was ok
He stepped into a difficult situation with Watergate and Nixon being nothing more than a criminal. But Ford did ok. His pardon of Nixon was inexplicable though. He in essence said Nixon was guilty (he was) without any sort of trial. I will admit that I am biased against Nixon, as he nearly destroyed this great land. Ford did try to get the USA moving forward again though, in spite of the pardon.
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European Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 10:23 PM
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8. The pardon and coming out late against the Iraq war-- both show a lack of
character--but he was decent in many other ways.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 10:33 PM
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9. Some of the negatives in pardoning Nixon are worth a read in todays political world
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2007/01/02/ford_left_scars_as_well.php

"There were five articles of impeachment brought against Nixon. The first was conspiracy to obstruct justice in the investigation of the June 1972 Watergate break-in. A judgment here would have obliged subsequent White Houses to create procedures that could have prevented the obstruction of justice that took place in the Reagan White House during the Iran-Contra affair.

The second article concerned misuse of executive power in violating the constitutional rights of citizens, specifically including electronic surveillance. A ruling against Nixon here would have deterred the Reagan administration’s spying on citizens protesting its policies in Central America and, indeed, could have kept the current president, George W. Bush, from instituting the controversial National Security Agency (NSA) wiretapping of Americans.

Nixon’s refusal to supply Congress with materials and information duly requested by the legislature was the basis for the third article of impeachment. Failure to establish a precedent there left the door open for a wide variety of maneuvers to keep Congress and the American people ignorant of things the White House does not want them to know. President George W. Bush’s cavalier attitude toward secrecy would not be possible otherwise. Now we have Bush routinely flouting requirements to inform Congress—the NSA affair again springs to mind—even invoking a state secrets doctrine to prevent actions being examined before courts.

Two of the Nixon impeachment articles were not actually voted by the House Judiciary Committee, so failure to adjudicate these cannot properly be laid at Ford’s door, but rulings would have been useful to our democracy. One concerned improper use of public funds for the president’s personal benefit. The last article accused Nixon of ordering the concealment from Congress by false and misleading statements of U.S. bombing of Cambodia that began in 1969 and was ruled illegal by U.S. courts four years later. Again, a precedent would have precluded a wide array of misbehavior by subsequent presidents.

By prematurely pardoning Nixon, Ford vitiated a hugely valuable opportunity to put presidents on notice about what constitutes an impeachable offense. Ford undoubtedly believed that he was doing the decent thing, but saving Nixon’s skin is not the same as healing the nation. In fact, Ford’s pardon drew widespread public protests, and some observers viewed it as a major reason why he lost the 1976 presidential election to Jimmy Carter. In a study of the Nixon and Ford administrations, historian John Robert Greene concluded the pardon gave Ford a “30-day first term.” The contrast between Ford’s preclusive pardon of Nixon and the highly conditional clemency program he offered Vietnam War military deserters and draft evaders—who were responding to one of Nixon’s worst travesties—also did nothing to heal the nation.

Ford asserted he would be the president for “all” Americans, but one has to search hard to find a corresponding achievement. Ford had no environmental policy to speak of, proposed a bill to cut spending for education of Native Americans and the Right to Read program, vetoed the Emergency Housing Act of 1975 (approving a virtually identical “compromise” once it became apparent he could not sustain the rejection), and left wife Betty out on a limb in her advocacy of the Equal Rights Amendment. Civil rights and immigration policies similarly languished. Ford famously denied federal aid to the city of New York, which then stood at the brink of bankruptcy (again reversing himself in a move with clear political overtones). This president inaugurated a campaign against inflation with virtually no content, leaving Americans at the mercy of rising energy costs and the task of implementing alternatives to his successor.

During his 1976 presidential campaign Ford declared that “trust must be earned.” Yet, at the outset of that year, faced with a scandal over the revelation of CIA domestic spying—which soon mushroomed into every imaginable area from assassinations to (more) NSA domestic wiretapping, President Ford actively worked to head off congressional investigations by setting up a commission under his vice president, Nelson A. Rockefeller. When that didn’t work, Ford acted to limit and undermine the probes by restricting their access to information and attempting to suppress their reports. Richard Cheney, then Ford’s White House chief of staff, became one of Ford’s most active collaborators in this effort. Indeed Cheney’s determination to resuscitate the imperial presidency germinated at precisely this time. The Intelligence Oversight Board established as the major consequence of Ford’s answering “reforms” never conducted a single inquiry.

The elaborate bicentennial celebration President Ford presided over in July 1976 had its healing properties, but the bicentennial was neither a program nor an achievement with lasting impact. Moreover, anyone who had occupied the Oval Office at that moment would have walked away with plaudits. That does not qualify Gerald R. Ford for the accolade of the Great Healer. "

www.TomPaine.com
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