Conservative Radio Host Sets Timetable For Assassination of Democrats

[kpete]

MEDIA MATTERS
'Assassination' schedule announced for Congress
Radio-show host says leaders won't be allowed to 'betray' nation

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Posted: December 6, 2006
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

Hal Turner

A radio talk-show entertainer whose earlier statements that he "may" have to assassinate members of Congress if the wrong people were elected Nov. 7 now has set a timetable for those killings.

In a statement on his website, Hal Turner noted that a newspaper has reported that a bill granting amnesty to illegal aliens is expected to be enacted in January, when the Democratic Party takes control of the U.S. Senate and House.

"ANY MEMBER OF CONGRESS WHO INTRODUCES, CO-SPONSORS OR VOTES IN FAVOR OF ANY SUCH AMNESTY WILL BE DECLARED A DOMESTIC ENEMY AND WILL BE CONSIDERED A LEGITIMATE TARGET FOR ASSASSINATION," Turner posted on his website.

more at:
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53245

[Virginia Dare]

1. Get this deranged criminal behind bars immediately...n/t

[originalpckelly]

10. I reported him to the FBI, so he may be behind bars soon...

even Republicans hate this guy, so he'll probably be prosecuted.

[Ms. Clio]

12. Was that you?

Long Arm of the Law?

[originalpckelly]

16. ...

;-)

Just a cute synonym, that's what real citizen's justice is, calling the appropriate law enforcement.

[Ms. Clio]

18. Of course

well done.

:)

[smokey nj]

41. Good work originalpckelly!

Off topic: Ms. Clio, that's one attractive puppy you have there.

[Ms. Clio]

43. thank you!

and that's a very attractive and satisfied cat you have there. :)

[struggle4progress]

55. Well, he wasn't prosecuted after Judge Lefkow's family was murdered.

... September 14, 2005: Turner claimed that a previous statement he posted against Federal Judge Joan Lefkow, whose family was murdered this past February by a deranged man reportedly unhappy with a ruling the judge made in his case, may have led to the killing of her family. Discussing the judge who ruled that the "Pledge of Allegiance" is unconstitutional, Turner wrote, "Let me just take this opportunity to remind U.S. District Judge Lawrence Karlton, that I, me, Hal Turner, uttered on this radio show that a ruling that had been made by a different Federal Judge, Judge Joan Humphrey Lefkow, in Chicago...I uttered that her ruling made her worthy of being killed and in March of this year her family was murdered. I don't like this ruling that was issued by U.S. District Judge Lawrence Karlton in San Francisco, saying that the Pledge of Allegiance is unconstitutional. I hope I don't have to make a similar utterance about Judge Karlton like I made about Judge Lefkow. You people on the Federal Bench think you can't be gotten to...you *can* be gotten to" ...
http://www.adl.org/learn/extremism_in_the_news/White_Supremacy/hal_turner_threats_10305.htm?LEARN_Cat=Extremism&LEARN_SubCat=Extremism_in_the_News

[AX10]

2. Janet Jackson's breast should be censored, but not this!

Typical conservative logic again.

[BattyDem]

3. Why isn't this guy in jail?

:shrug: :grr:

[SpiralHawk]

4. That's actionable. Arrest the republicon crony loser

and murderer bully.

Republicons cannot stand real democracy, that's for sure.

Fascism by force is all the republicons know. What a pack of anti-American losers.

Why do republicons hate America?

[sinkingfeeling]

5. Where's the FBI, Homeland Security, or any anti-terrorist group when you need one?

[SteppingRazor]

6. Finally, the Republicans agree to a timetable!

:rofl:

[jwirr]

7. Seriously, I know that you cannot threaten the President of the USA

but what is the law against treatening other officials?

[Bake]

11. Ummmm, you pretty much can't do it. n/t

Bake

[TreasonousBastard]

17. Don't know of a specific one, but...

the jails are loaded with people for "Terroristic threats" like "I'm gonna fuck you all up." Amd there was that nutcase who got busted for his website showing where you could shoot abortion doctors.

Must be something on the books about threatening or planning assassination an elected official but in a pinch, good ol' Treason would do.

[treestar]

56. Around here a viable and credible threat to kill someone

or assault them is a crime of itself. They call it "terroristic threatening" - it is from the Model Penal Code.

I've represented people accused of it. Usually it is large men who get angry -when you are a tall, big man, you have to watch your temper, because people will get scared when they wouldn't if a smaller person threatened them. There is often a domestic violence context.

If he is serious he is at least falling under that, and if he makes any actual overt moves toward it that would be an attempted/conspiracy on murder.

[originalpckelly]

26. Found the right law:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000351----000-.html

"(a) Whoever kills any individual who is a Member of Congress or a Member-of-Congress-elect, a member of the executive branch of the Government who is the head, or a person nominated to be head during the pendency of such nomination, of a department listed in section 101 of title 5 or the second ranking official in such department, the Director (or a person nominated to be Director during the pendency of such nomination) or Deputy Director of Central Intelligence, a major Presidential or Vice Presidential candidate (as defined in section 3056 of this title), or a Justice of the United States, as defined in section 451 of title 28, or a person nominated to be a Justice of the United States, during the pendency of such nomination, shall be punished as provided by sections 1111 and 1112 of this title.
(b) Whoever kidnaps any individual designated in subsection (a) of this section shall be punished
(1) by imprisonment for any term of years or for life, or
(2) by death or imprisonment for any term of years or for life, if death results to such individual.
(c) Whoever attempts to kill or kidnap any individual designated in subsection (a) of this section shall be punished by imprisonment for any term of years or for life.
(d) If two or more persons conspire to kill or kidnap any individual designated in subsection (a) of this section and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be punished
(1) by imprisonment for any term of years or for life, or
(2) by death or imprisonment for any term of years or for life, if death results to such individual.
(e) Whoever assaults any person designated in subsection (a) of this section shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if the assault involved the use of a dangerous weapon, or personal injury results, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
(f) If Federal investigative or prosecutive jurisdiction is asserted for a violation of this section, such assertion shall suspend the exercise of jurisdiction by a State or local authority, under any applicable State or local law, until Federal action is terminated.
(g) Violations of this section shall be investigated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Assistance may be requested from any Federal, State, or local agency, including the Army, Navy, and Air Force, any statute, rule, or regulation to the contrary notwithstanding.
(h) In a prosecution for an offense under this section the Government need not prove that the defendant knew that the victim of the offense was an individual protected by this section.
(i) There is extraterritorial jurisdiction over the conduct prohibited by this section. "

[struggle4progress]

30. Title 18 Part I Chapter 113B § 2331 Definitions seem relevant:

As used in this chapter — ..

(5) the term “domestic terrorism” means activities that — ..
(B) appear to be intended — ..
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by .. assassination .. and
(C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States ...

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00002331----000-.html

[originalpckelly]

50. Very interesting.

Where's the site where these threats were made? All he has up now is Blogspot, and the internet archive only has his website up until may of last year.

[struggle4progress]

36. Turner did just that in 2005: he posted the inaugural parade route on his website

with the remark that he thought it could not be defended against mortar or rocket attacks and promised to cheer if "the fed’s get wiped out."

[tblue37]

45. Ann Coulter suggested that someone should poison

a Supreme Court justice.

And didn't Jesse Helms suggest that CLinton should not dare to visit North Carolina if he didn't want to get assassinated?

[leftofthedial]

8. why is he not in jail?

[shance]

9. What a great opportunity for Democrats to address what Republicans have been doing

to our leaders for decades now.

[Richard Steele]

13. 14 year old girls get visited by the Secret Service for far less.

Some animals are clearly more equal than others.

[dogday]

14. Are these threats legal or lawful?

Seems like they would not be, seems like he is inciting to assassinate and that is a crime...

[David Dunham]

15. Calling for Assasination of the Speaker of the House Is Illegal

This guy should be carted off to jail.

[ck4829]

19. He sparked the Turner-Chan War. Fight the racists on the first Internet War ever.

Learn more about it here:

http://turnerchan.blogspot.com/2006/12/turner-chan-war-cause-of-conflict.html

[Ms. Clio]

24. Did you see that VonBluvens site went down last night, too?

I never even heard of any of these fringe extremists before this Intertubes War.

[ck4829]

27. Same with me

But it's good to find out as much information as possible about these extremists and also find out about the legal actions we can take against them in the War of the Internets.

[Ms. Clio]

29. I agree

I can't imagine his blog will last long, if he tries to post his usual insane rants there. Flag that SOB!

[blogslut]

31. I didn't know about Hal

But I knew about 4chan. Scary, scary. Perusing some related links and these fringe sites better hunker down cause Anonymous is in it for the LULZ.

[Ms. Clio]

33. I knew nothing about the chans, either, or ebaumsworld

damn I feel old. Without Wiki I'd still have no clue. Yeah, it's not about the racist hate for most of them (some even claim to agree with him on that), it's the LULZ and his posting of their personal info. The best thing Hal could do right now is STFU. But I believe he is simply incapable of doing so, especially when he needs to keep trying to suck money out of his demented fans.

[blogslut]

37. I can dig it

I wouldn't know about it either if it wasn't for my kid.

[originalpckelly]

53. I didn't even know "Hal Turner" or "4chan"

?I outrank both of you. :rofl:

I guess when you don't go looking, you don't know.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

20. Isn't threatening a member of Congress

in this specific way illegal? Where is the FBI on this?

[mogster]

21. Freedom of speech is so sweet

Meanwhile, war protesters are herded off by police - including reporters trying to get their view across of the protests against a war any now can see was not necessary, or even legal.

It's the topsy turvy world of the right.

[blogslut]

22. Keep digging the hole, Hal

Notice how World Nut Daily mentions nothing about Hal's site being destroyed by 4chan or his threats against children. Golly, I hope those hacker kids don't turn their attentions to WND. That would be awful.

[xultar]

23. The power of the black womans breast cannot be denied.

[TahitiNut]

35. Well, Lord knows I'd never deny it.

:evilgrin:

... and I'm more of an "ass man." :silly:

[xultar]

39. Buhwawawa! You like junk in your lady's trunk. I can dig it!

[meegbear]

25. This part is ridiculous ...

Paul Bresson, a spokesman for the FBI, said he couldn't confirm what investigations are being pursued.

"The Internet does not give anyone a license to espouse violence, but there is a certain amount of protection, First Amendment protections, that are built in and we're mindful of those," he said.

So when a doofus on a forum posts there's gonna be a dirty bomb attack on football stadiums or a kid wears an anti-bush shirt, you guys are all over it. Someone posting the assassination of politicians is 'protected by the first'?!?

:mad:

[LeftHander]

28. The hard core freeps are making the call....

...to loyal gun toting right wing nutjobs.

This guy should be arrested. This is inciting terror.

Had this guy been a brown skinned middle eastern male how long do you think it would take for HS to ship his ass off to Gitmo?

[struggle4progress]

32. White Supremacist Radio Host Urges Bombings, Assassinations (2005)

Updated: March 22, 2005
Update: Hal Turner

White supremacist Hal Turner named three federal court judges with connections to the Matt Hale case as public officials who “need to be reined in.” Turner also posted the judges’ full names and addresses on his Web site, and read their names during a March 5, 2005, appearance on the Fox News program “Geraldo” ...

On January 3, 2005, Turner posted the presidential inauguration parade route on his Web site, saying “it seems to me there can be no protection against a ‘Turner Diaries’ type of mortar attack or a Hezbollah-type rocket attack launched from outside the security zone. Rest assured, if the fed’s get wiped out, I’ll be cheering the TV set!” ...

http://www.adl.org/learn/news/Suprem_Urge_Bomb.asp

[JNelson6563]

34. Sheer lunacy.

Perfect spokesman for the wingers.

I'm gonna go ahead and guess he's "pro-life", right? *sigh*

Julie

[judaspriestess]

38. isn't this bill supported by his almighty leader chimpy?

why doesn't he get angry with *

[chaska]

40. Okay, kpete, what are we going to do about this? Lead us. Tell us what you want us to do.

Let's get organized.

[Rex]

42. I'm sure Cheney's FBI will get right on it!!!

Just like they did with the _________. I swear, the FBI is as bad as the Pentagon! Sure, we will 'investigate' the matter fully in due time. Honest.

[originalpckelly]

54. Not everyone in the FBI is a conservative, they don't have...

the ability to fire everyone when they take over, because only the absolute top jobs are appointed. So there are a lot of good FBI agents. Just look at the public integrity devision, they went after all the corrupt Republican Congressmen.

If I remember correctly, they have done investigations, and US Attorney's at the district level have successfully prosecuted, a number of white supremacist/anti-government terrorists.

The only thing that's different now is that it won't be publicized, because the top of the food chain gets to choose that usually.

We can't forget, the even during Watergate, the FBI was a source of hope for American, because Deep Throat was the second highest ranking FBI official. And he was even an appointment.

[LeftishBrit]

44. Isn't that illegal????

[guruoo]

46. Google's blogspot now hosting Turner

Old site (down):
halturnershow.com/index.html

New site provided by blogspot (add http):
://halturnershow.blogspot.com/

According to the blogger home page, blogspot (blogger) is owned by Google:
http://www.blogger.com/about

[originalpckelly]

51. I know. We may not be able to legally tell him to shut up with racist rants...

but we can sure work hard to get other people to not support him in their private business affairs with him.

[Bjorn Against]

47. Here is another quote in which he goes into more detail

"This seems to be 'it' folks. I'm going to do what I have to do to protect my nation from its government. I know where all of my New Jersey Congressmen and Senators live. Do you know where yours live? If not, you better find out before January so you can scope out their neighborhoods and prepare yourselves," he said.

"Those of you who, for years, have said you're 'gonna do this' or 'gonna do that' when the time comes; are about to face ugly reality. In January, 'the time' will come. In January the entire world will find out if you're real or just a bigmouth coward," he said.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/1/3/11020/34564

Remember Ann Coulter has called for the assasinations of Jack Murtha, Bill Clinton, and John Paul Stevens, and said her "only regret" with Timothy McVeigh is that he did not blow up the New York Times building.

You know if someone on the left made threats like this they would have the FBI knocking their doors down in no time. Why do Coulter and Turner get a free pass?

[B Calm]

48. He's a fucking no good terrorist! Hopefully he'll arrested and sent

to Cuba soon!

[a la izquierda]

49. perfect punishment considering...

he has an aversion to brown skinned immigrants. What a douche.

[Xenotime]

52. All the more proof that the Repuglican party can no longer function..

If they don't stand up against this individual, they are supporting his view.