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TechBear_Seattle
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Wed Jan-03-07 03:48 PM Original message |
French court rules pork soup kitchen not racist |
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CTguy78
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Wed Jan-03-07 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
1. How is that racist? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Wed Jan-03-07 03:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Given it's a far right group... |
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CTguy78
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Wed Jan-03-07 03:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. then they can starve |
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Lurking Dem
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Wed Jan-03-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. I think maybe |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Wed Jan-03-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Well, at least we agree that it's racist now. |
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karlrschneider
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:40 PM Response to Reply #8 |
62. Not to defend the newbie, but how is it racist? |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:43 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Couldn't they give a hindu everything but the burger? |
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karlrschneider
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #66 |
75. The Hindu can throw the burger (the beef part) away. |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:51 PM Response to Reply #75 |
80. The point is, serving hamburgers does not exclude Hindus. |
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karlrschneider
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:05 PM Response to Reply #80 |
98. They can't pick out the pieces of pig? Are they blind too? |
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gollygee
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:07 PM Response to Reply #98 |
103. Huh? You think Muslims can just pick the pork out? |
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:13 PM Response to Reply #103 |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:17 PM Response to Reply #114 |
119. So you're saying muslims and jews are dumb fucks? |
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:52 PM Response to Reply #119 |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:03 PM Response to Reply #138 |
150. Alright. |
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karlrschneider
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:13 PM Response to Reply #150 |
200. Christians who pray in public are violating a clear instruction from Jesus. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:37 PM Response to Reply #200 |
229. Who Christians should obey clear instructions from Jesus... |
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karlrschneider
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:46 PM Response to Reply #229 |
239. Look, there ARE no 'clear instructions' from imaginary deities. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:47 PM Response to Reply #239 |
241. So you're saying muslims are delusional idiots. |
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:50 PM Response to Reply #241 |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:21 PM Response to Reply #119 |
166. Too bad KARL's posts were deleted. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:27 PM Response to Reply #166 |
172. That's our Karl. |
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karlrschneider
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:11 PM Response to Reply #166 |
198. Uh, to whom are you referring? |
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Poll_Blind
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:19 PM Response to Reply #114 |
123. I wouldn't say "dumb fuck", I'd say "extremely orthodox". Sometimes... |
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karlrschneider
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:42 PM Response to Reply #123 |
133. Ultra orthodox is fine when it embraces sensible principles. It's just stupid |
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Critters2
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:06 PM Response to Reply #133 |
152. The same Orthodox people who don't eat pork don't eat shellfish |
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karlrschneider
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:23 PM Response to Reply #152 |
169. That's bullshit. Maybe not when the priest/rabbi is nearby. |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:25 PM Response to Reply #169 |
171. Oh good - now you've moved on to the made-up-statistics part of your losing |
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Critters2
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:31 PM Response to Reply #169 |
175. So your friend wasn't Orthodox. What's your point? nt |
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karlrschneider
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:55 PM Response to Reply #175 |
186. That he was sane. |
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Critters2
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:57 PM Response to Reply #186 |
187. Since Jesus' teachings were mostly quotes from the Hebrew Bible |
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karlrschneider
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:04 PM Response to Reply #187 |
190. I'm not sure I would agree with that. There's not much in the Torah like the |
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Critters2
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:13 PM Response to Reply #190 |
199. The Great Commandment (Love God), and the Second (love your neighbor) |
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karlrschneider
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:15 PM Response to Reply #199 |
203. True but it doesn't refute my observation. |
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Ellen Forradalom
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Sun Jan-07-07 04:53 PM Response to Reply #203 |
300. that was hilarious |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:22 PM Response to Reply #133 |
168. Christian bible believers are permitted to eat Shellfish, pork, etc per |
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karlrschneider
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:07 PM Response to Reply #168 |
194. Yeah, Saul, the Terrorist of Tarsus who hallucinated from bad mushrooms |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:10 PM Response to Reply #194 |
196. That's the Christian mythos. |
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karlrschneider
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:19 PM Response to Reply #196 |
208. Leviticus 10:10? |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:24 PM Response to Reply #208 |
212. Matthew 15:10-11 |
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karlrschneider
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:27 PM Response to Reply #212 |
217. Well, that is precisely the POINT, isn't it? You can find something in scripture |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #217 |
224. Number 1: I am addressing your observation that bible believers eat |
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karlrschneider
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:34 PM Response to Reply #224 |
226. Yeah, they have an "okay" in ONE place, and a PROHIBITION in another. |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:38 PM Response to Reply #226 |
230. If you are a BIBLE believer (rather than a Torah believer) the second takes |
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karlrschneider
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:43 PM Response to Reply #230 |
235. Fine. Tell it to the millions of 'christians' who get orgasmic over the |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:45 PM Response to Reply #235 |
238. I concur - most Bible Believers are biblically ignorant. |
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karlrschneider
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:49 PM Response to Reply #238 |
243. I am an atheist also and I fucked up with that comment. I intended to |
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rebel with a cause
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Thu Jan-04-07 02:18 AM Response to Reply #133 |
279. there is actually no such thing as common sense. |
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Clark2008
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:20 PM Response to Reply #103 |
124. Well, a great many people, myself included, are allergic to pork; |
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Matariki
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:56 PM Response to Reply #124 |
143. you *could* find another soup kitchen if you were starving |
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Ms. Clio
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:41 PM Response to Reply #143 |
178. yeah, the world is full of free food! Soup kitchens on every corner! |
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karlrschneider
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:36 PM Response to Reply #178 |
227. I'm sure you are right. The only hungry/homeless people in France are obviously |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #143 |
182. Heck, why bother with soup kitchens? Let them eat cake. |
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Matariki
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:03 PM Response to Reply #182 |
189. RIGHT - and the answer is to obviously close it down |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:05 PM Response to Reply #189 |
191. Let's go back to basics - |
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Matariki
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:13 PM Response to Reply #191 |
201. It *was* shut down for serving soup with pork fat in it. |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:17 PM Response to Reply #201 |
205. Let's try again: I asked "WHO HERE SAID IT SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN"? |
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Matariki
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:23 PM Response to Reply #205 |
210. ask away. |
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gollygee
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:24 PM Response to Reply #210 |
213. We're just speaking out against injustice! |
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Matariki
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:28 PM Response to Reply #213 |
219. couldn't agree with you more |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:26 PM Response to Reply #210 |
214. What should happen to the soup kitchen? |
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karlrschneider
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #214 |
223. It also happens to be the moral answer. |
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Ms. Clio
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:07 PM Response to Reply #189 |
192. nobody said it should be closed down |
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Matariki
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:21 PM Response to Reply #192 |
209. so what do you suggest - keep it open or close it down |
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Ms. Clio
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:26 PM Response to Reply #209 |
216. hey, the KKK had no obligation to give money to widows and children, either |
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Matariki
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #216 |
222. well then, back to my post stating that a person could go to another soup kitchen |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:36 PM Response to Reply #222 |
228. Your notion that there are abundant choices for hungry homeless people betrays |
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Matariki
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Wed Jan-03-07 09:06 PM Response to Reply #228 |
258. you misunderstand my point |
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Ms. Clio
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:39 PM Response to Reply #222 |
232. No |
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Matariki
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:45 PM Response to Reply #232 |
237. no, i wouldn't either. |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:46 PM Response to Reply #237 |
240. And if your children hadn't eaten food in 3 or 4 days? |
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Matariki
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:50 PM Response to Reply #240 |
244. that would be a tough call. a real dilemma. |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:51 PM Response to Reply #244 |
246. I might eat my cat and I'm barely even hungry. |
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Matariki
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:54 PM Response to Reply #246 |
248. if only the keyboard had a 'grill' option |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:58 PM Response to Reply #248 |
252. Skewer the fat bastard. |
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Matariki
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Wed Jan-03-07 09:01 PM Response to Reply #252 |
255. the one at the top looks like a fried chicken already. |
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Madspirit
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Sat Jan-06-07 05:02 PM Response to Reply #222 |
293. Absolutely NOT |
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karlrschneider
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:33 PM Response to Reply #216 |
225. What is a 'real charity'? One that only gives to people you approve of? |
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gollygee
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:38 PM Response to Reply #225 |
231. One that has charitable motivations |
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Ms. Clio
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:39 PM Response to Reply #225 |
233. So you think we need the KKK again, Karl? |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:40 PM Response to Reply #225 |
234. In popular use the term Charity is often used as a synonym |
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karlrschneider
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:59 PM Response to Reply #234 |
254. I think I will start a charity (that comports with your definition) that gives free condoms |
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Ms. Clio
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Wed Jan-03-07 09:01 PM Response to Reply #254 |
256. no, it wouldn't be discriminating against anyone |
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karlrschneider
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Wed Jan-03-07 09:20 PM Response to Reply #256 |
259. No...it's OFFERING something FREE that may offend certain people. |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-03-07 09:23 PM Response to Reply #259 |
261. Offense is not the question, and never has been |
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karlrschneider
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Wed Jan-03-07 09:32 PM Response to Reply #261 |
263. I think we're just arguing for the sake of argument now. If somebody can "NOT" |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-03-07 09:37 PM Response to Reply #263 |
265. Let's just expose the tremendous flaw in your analogy. |
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karlrschneider
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Wed Jan-03-07 09:45 PM Response to Reply #265 |
270. That's pretty funny considering so many on this thread think it's RACISM. |
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Ms. Clio
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Wed Jan-03-07 09:28 PM Response to Reply #259 |
262. Nobody's actual physical well-being depends on access to condoms |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-03-07 09:38 PM Response to Reply #262 |
266. Rather, offering condoms does not deny any service to those who don't want them. |
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Ms. Clio
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Wed Jan-03-07 09:43 PM Response to Reply #266 |
269. yes, thanks |
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karlrschneider
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Wed Jan-03-07 09:38 PM Response to Reply #262 |
267. With all due respect, it has EVERYTHING to do with religion. |
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Ms. Clio
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Wed Jan-03-07 09:41 PM Response to Reply #267 |
268. What part of the whole "guys running the charity hate Muslims" do you fail to understand? |
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karlrschneider
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Wed Jan-03-07 09:46 PM Response to Reply #268 |
271. Well, pardon the fuck out of me for attempting to educate. |
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sendero
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Sun Jan-07-07 05:05 PM Response to Reply #268 |
301. I wanna ask you something.. |
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pitohui
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Sat Jan-06-07 03:05 PM Response to Reply #262 |
287. i can't believe you just said that -- ever heard of aids/hiv? |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-03-07 09:06 PM Response to Reply #254 |
257. I can't imagine how that would discriminate in the least. NT |
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Hoping4Change
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Sat Jan-06-07 04:42 PM Response to Reply #192 |
289. My absolutely favourite meat is pork but once I realized how |
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rebel with a cause
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Thu Jan-04-07 02:32 AM Response to Reply #182 |
281. Let them eat cake. Hey, that's my line. |
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Hoping4Change
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Sat Jan-06-07 04:49 PM Response to Reply #281 |
290. I agree. I also think that people should have a right to completely |
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Ms. Clio
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:12 PM Response to Reply #98 |
113. yeah, there is some damned foolish stuff posted here |
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TechBear_Seattle
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:21 PM Response to Reply #98 |
125. Out of a soup? |
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karlrschneider
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:53 PM Response to Reply #125 |
140. I rest my case. |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:20 PM Response to Reply #98 |
165. Pick out the pieces of pig in pork broth? |
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Ms. Clio
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:03 PM Response to Reply #62 |
95. really? Then maybe you should see post #86 |
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cherokeeprogressive
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Thu Jan-04-07 01:33 AM Response to Reply #8 |
276. Racism, or Religious Discrimination? |
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Ms. Clio
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Thu Jan-04-07 02:28 AM Response to Reply #276 |
280. Try reading the whole thread, especially #86, and perhaps go google "xenophobia" |
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SoCalDem
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Wed Jan-03-07 04:03 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. 3-2-1- |
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geek tragedy
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Wed Jan-03-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #3 |
21. Can they eat Freedom Fries? eom |
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CrispyQ
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Wed Jan-03-07 04:47 PM Response to Reply #3 |
42. What a kind heart you have toward your fellow man -- |
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TechBear_Seattle
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Wed Jan-03-07 04:55 PM Response to Reply #3 |
45. "Are there no prisons? No workhouses?" |
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Crunchy Frog
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:20 PM Response to Reply #45 |
56. Good answer. n/t |
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JerseygirlCT
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:58 PM Response to Reply #45 |
253. Just what came to my mind, too. nt |
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rockymountaindem
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:04 PM Response to Reply #3 |
48. Wasn't Christmas last week, Scrooge? n/t |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:37 PM Response to Reply #3 |
59. Yes, people can use their own money to discriminate. |
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JerseygirlCT
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:56 PM Response to Reply #3 |
250. Wow. |
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rebel with a cause
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Thu Jan-04-07 02:11 AM Response to Reply #3 |
278. Why aren't you special? |
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geek tragedy
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Wed Jan-03-07 04:03 PM Response to Reply #2 |
15. Probably. On the other hand there's no |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Wed Jan-03-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. It's not my state to say. |
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geek tragedy
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Wed Jan-03-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Good point. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Wed Jan-03-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Not if the menus are in restaurants that discriminate against... |
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geek tragedy
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Wed Jan-03-07 04:25 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. So, all-pork restaurants should be illegal? |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:46 PM Response to Reply #35 |
70. Commercial businesses represent a choice for consumers. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:04 PM Response to Reply #35 |
97. If a restaurant discriminates against black people... |
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slackmaster
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:11 PM Response to Reply #97 |
109. There was an effort to shut down Church's Fried Chicken here in the '80s |
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geek tragedy
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Thu Jan-04-07 01:09 AM Response to Reply #97 |
275. Did the soup kitchen forbid Muslims or Jews |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:44 PM Response to Reply #20 |
68. Depends. If the agency uses public funds in a way intended to discriminate |
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geek tragedy
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Thu Jan-04-07 07:27 PM Response to Reply #68 |
285. I would hope that those Le Pen-supporting |
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slackmaster
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Wed Jan-03-07 04:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
23. I would not characterize it as racial discrimination |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Wed Jan-03-07 04:16 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. I would. |
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architect359
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Wed Jan-03-07 03:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Yeah, but was that their intent? |
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slackmaster
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Wed Jan-03-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
24. If a Filipino nationalist organization offered only baluts |
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Poll_Blind
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:18 PM Response to Reply #4 |
54. You're using the term intent in an emotional/spiritual sense but... |
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Missy M
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Wed Jan-03-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Because it is a right wing group I believe it is definitely racist... |
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Momgonepostal
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
193. A well-intentioned right wing group would serve something else |
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Matariki
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:53 PM Response to Reply #193 |
247. I wonder if the BULK of their clients couldn't eat pork - or just a few |
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Ms. Clio
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:57 PM Response to Reply #247 |
251. It's not hard to understand their motives if you read post #86 |
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Wed Jan-03-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
22. Absolutely, if your alternative is no food, eat whatever the mean-spirited xenophobic bigots offer. |
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Wed Jan-03-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #22 |
38. It isn't political correctness when it is ingrained religious 'rules'. |
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Wed Jan-03-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
39. Perhaps "xenophobic" or "nativist" or "antisemitic" are better descriptions. |
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Thu Jan-04-07 02:09 AM Response to Reply #1 |
277. About political correctness this is not. and whether or not they like pork. |
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Wed Jan-03-07 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
5. I believe it is ok |
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Wed Jan-03-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Ah. I didn't realize that fact |
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Wed Jan-03-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. You're right. Here is a Wiki link with relevant verses. |
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Wed Jan-03-07 04:33 PM Response to Reply #17 |
40. Jews are under commandment to save lives. |
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Wed Jan-03-07 04:52 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Thanks. I did vaguely remember that there was a heirarchy and... |
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Wed Jan-03-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
19. Kitchen pot religion |
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Wed Jan-03-07 04:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
36. "But if one is forced by necessity, without wilful disobedience or transgressing due limits, ..." |
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ayeshahaqqiqa
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:19 PM Response to Reply #36 |
122. Thanks |
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BuyingThyme
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Wed Jan-03-07 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
9. Is racism illegal in France? |
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Wed Jan-03-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. I think that technically it is. |
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Wed Jan-03-07 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
12. religion is an idea, if anything it is theist not racist |
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Wed Jan-03-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #12 |
28. thank you |
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Wed Jan-03-07 04:19 PM Response to Reply #12 |
33. Discrimination on basis of religious beliefs |
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:07 PM Response to Reply #33 |
49. Actually they are not discriminiating against anyone. The recipients are... |
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:10 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. I agree that *legally* it isn't discrimination |
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:16 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. And that, it seems, is what the court ruled |
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. Even then, I would disagree that it is discriminiation of any sort. The... |
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:31 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. There's an ethical issue and a legal issue |
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:42 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. But it won't "keep" people from participating. I know this sounds like... |
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:44 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. The intent is there regardless |
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:47 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. gosh, who are you, the thought police? |
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Not knowing anything more than that the group has far right connections |
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Ms. Clio
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:51 PM Response to Reply #74 |
79. of course it was |
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #74 |
89. Certainly, but that does not mean that there is any actual discrimination present. |
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:58 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. People have the right to be incredible discriminatory assholes |
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. If I were the the thought police, I'd say it should be illegal |
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:52 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. sorry, I forgot to use a sarcasm thingie n/t |
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #81 |
90. I didn't catch that it was sarcasm |
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:47 PM Response to Reply #58 |
71. What about vegetarians who are hungry? Should charities be obliged |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:53 PM Response to Reply #71 |
82. Depends. |
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:06 PM Response to Reply #82 |
102. Yes. EVERYTHING depends on a lot of factors. |
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:08 PM Response to Reply #102 |
155. If you have a more specific question I'll be happy to answer it, Karl. |
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:24 PM Response to Reply #155 |
170. I went back through the thread and did not find a broad or other sort of question. |
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:53 PM Response to Reply #71 |
83. They don't have to give people anything they don't want to give them |
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karlrschneider
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:10 PM Response to Reply #83 |
107. Not all discrimination is immoral let along illegal. |
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gollygee
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:11 PM Response to Reply #107 |
110. Did I say they shouldn't be allowed to? |
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:54 PM Response to Reply #71 |
84. While I would love to live in a world where the needy... |
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:11 PM Response to Reply #84 |
108. As is the decision to accept it. |
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:12 PM Response to Reply #71 |
111. They can always go to a Hare Krishna temple |
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Thu Jan-04-07 02:51 AM Response to Reply #51 |
282. I will agree with that. |
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:01 PM Response to Reply #12 |
47. Thank you. Good point. n/t |
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Wed Jan-03-07 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
13. Oh for pete's sakes |
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Wed Jan-03-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Civic minded person? |
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Wed Jan-03-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #13 |
25. I get the impression that this group serves ONLY pork |
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Wed Jan-03-07 04:27 PM Response to Reply #25 |
37. So they are racists. |
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Wed Jan-03-07 04:39 PM Response to Reply #25 |
41. If a restaurant has no vegetarian dishes on its menu, |
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Wed Jan-03-07 04:51 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Many Hindu's eat meat |
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Wed Jan-03-07 04:58 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. From what I've seen in my few decades of life |
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:10 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Agreed. And while the organization may be odious in it's beliefs... |
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #46 |
60. so YOU'RE the "thought police" determining their motives, instead |
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:06 PM Response to Reply #60 |
99. So who did they bother? |
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Ms. Clio
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:07 PM Response to Reply #99 |
104. see post #86 n/t |
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:12 PM Response to Reply #104 |
112. A website is ideas and thoughts not behavior. |
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:14 PM Response to Reply #112 |
116. The point is the people who are being deliberately turned away from the soup kitchen |
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:22 PM Response to Reply #116 |
126. But no-one is being turned away from the soup kitchen. |
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:24 PM Response to Reply #126 |
127. The choice of the food guarantees that some people will not access it |
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:32 PM Response to Reply #127 |
128. You've lost me with that logic. |
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:38 PM Response to Reply #128 |
131. Apples and oranges |
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:54 PM Response to Reply #131 |
141. I'm still lost |
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:56 PM Response to Reply #141 |
144. Because the charity has set it up so that really not "any and all" will come |
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:59 PM Response to Reply #141 |
147. The problem is |
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gollygee
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:00 PM Response to Reply #141 |
148. It's their reason for chosing pork |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:07 PM Response to Reply #141 |
154. The charitity is intentionally setting up barriers. |
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:40 PM Response to Reply #128 |
132. Businesses need to make some concessions towards... |
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:02 PM Response to Reply #132 |
149. Well, like I said. |
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:03 PM Response to Reply #149 |
151. do you have a link for that story? |
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:17 PM Response to Reply #151 |
163. More info |
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:19 PM Response to Reply #163 |
164. well, that's interesting, but still not sure how it applies |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:09 PM Original message |
I guess they should have made their place... |
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:54 PM Response to Reply #46 |
85. You seem to know a lot about this soup kitchen with far-right ties. |
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:32 PM Response to Reply #85 |
129. That's an unfair jab. No-one has any obligation to give... |
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:15 PM Response to Reply #129 |
161. But I asked a poster how s/he knows they are simply civic minded. |
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:22 PM Response to Reply #161 |
167. some folks are apparently authorized "thought police" |
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:20 PM Response to Reply #43 |
55. OK, I can buy an argument about state of mind, intentions, etc. |
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Wed Jan-03-07 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
27. I'm not sure what the percentage of religious people in France is... |
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Wed Jan-03-07 04:22 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. Most nominal Christians in France are non-religious. French Muslims, on the other hand... |
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:42 PM Response to Reply #34 |
134. I was particularly interested in those who would eat at the |
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Thu Jan-04-07 03:18 AM Response to Reply #34 |
283. Zealots have always carefully crafted their attacks. |
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Wed Jan-03-07 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
29. This is a tricky one |
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Wed Jan-03-07 09:58 PM Response to Reply #29 |
274. I'd guess the motive is different ... |
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Wed Jan-03-07 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
30. I hear the American prisoners are fed pork everyday also. n/t |
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Wed Jan-03-07 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
32. I hope we never become like this |
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
52. If the fucking foolish Jews and Muslims won't follow their OWN RELIGION'S RULES |
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:42 PM Response to Reply #52 |
64. I don't know where this anti semitic shit comes from, but I'm constantly |
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:48 PM Response to Reply #64 |
73. It is anti semitic to expect people following a religion to follow it? |
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:50 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. So the soup kitchen should serve in such a way as to force the hungry to decide |
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:55 PM Response to Reply #78 |
87. But if one is forced by necessity, without willful disobedience, nor transgressing due limits |
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. Necessity is not a binary. There are degrees of necessity. |
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:17 PM Response to Reply #91 |
118. I'm not a fan of racism |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:06 PM Response to Reply #118 |
153. I don't recall advocating government intrusion. |
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:27 PM Response to Reply #153 |
173. You asked if the soup kitchen should serve this way. |
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:46 PM Response to Reply #173 |
180. I disagree with the choice of the far right group. Not the court's decision |
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
61. Why can't they just serve Tofu and Chicken Soup? |
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:41 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Tofu offends me |
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:45 PM Response to Reply #61 |
69. It has to be Kosher for Jewish Religion |
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:50 PM Response to Reply #61 |
77. They have the right to decide what to give away free. To place an... |
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:55 PM Response to Reply #61 |
88. Why don't they just use the Paper Bag test? NT |
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:08 PM Response to Reply #88 |
105. I'm almost afraid to ask... |
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:15 PM Response to Reply #105 |
117. LOL! Same here. I didn't query. I was too afraid! LOL! n/t |
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:09 PM Response to Reply #105 |
157. Google is your friend. NT |
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:19 PM Response to Reply #157 |
207. GAK! I looked. |
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
86. This is clearly aimed at Muslims (I checked out their website for those who don't speak French) |
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Wed Jan-03-07 05:59 PM Response to Reply #86 |
93. Thank you for the additional info. that clearly indicates the hateful motives |
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:03 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. Gee, I thought it was a humanitarian group that got a good price on pork! |
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:04 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. just so sweet and innocent and not meaning to bother anybody, no sir n/t |
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:06 PM Response to Reply #86 |
100. Thank you for the translation |
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:06 PM Response to Reply #86 |
101. Even the most religiously observant Muslim or Jew may consume pork... |
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:09 PM Response to Reply #101 |
106. Yes, but these are probably not people starving to death |
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:14 PM Response to Reply #106 |
115. Not sure I follow. I reread my post but I'm not sure... |
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:19 PM Response to Reply #115 |
121. I think people might be willing to go hungry for an extra day or two if forced into it |
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:48 PM Response to Reply #121 |
135. The charity is not doing anything to anyone. The potential consumers.... |
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:51 PM Response to Reply #135 |
136. I would have to pretty damned hungry to eat a dog or a horse or a bowl of fried crickets |
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Wed Jan-03-07 09:22 PM Response to Reply #136 |
260. I think you just put it eloquently. |
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Wed Jan-03-07 09:50 PM Response to Reply #260 |
272. Exactly -- it's a hate-filled FU to a specific subset of hungry people |
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:11 PM Response to Reply #101 |
158. And yet it puts hungry Semitic people in a serious bind. |
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:29 PM Response to Reply #158 |
174. What's the serious bind? Neither Jew or Muslim breaks covenant if... |
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:41 PM Response to Reply #174 |
177. Let's play out the scenario: |
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:10 PM Response to Reply #177 |
197. But those are his actions based on his perceived choices. And those... |
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:14 PM Response to Reply #197 |
202. To the contrary - those are his choices reflecting Judaism. |
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:26 PM Response to Reply #202 |
215. Exactly- HIS choices, not the soup provider's. n/t |
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:28 PM Response to Reply #215 |
220. No one said it wasn't his choice. Just that the kitchen is a racist asshole |
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
120. If you are afraid that your God will get pissed off at you |
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Ms. Clio
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:36 PM Response to Reply #120 |
130. Do you eat dog? Cockroaches? |
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:52 PM Response to Reply #130 |
137. LOL! I grew up in the deep south and for like 5 seconds I... |
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Ms. Clio
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:53 PM Response to Reply #137 |
139. I cannot eat crawfish precisely because they look like giant bugs to me |
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:58 PM Response to Reply #139 |
145. Crustaceans are first cousins to insects. |
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:56 PM Response to Reply #120 |
142. More accurately, dump them all. Probably every fucking edible thing on earth |
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Wed Jan-03-07 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
146. This is where Rousseau was right. |
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:12 PM Response to Reply #146 |
159. the General Will which can never be wrong ... |
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:15 PM Response to Reply #159 |
160. Poo! |
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Wed Jan-03-07 09:33 PM Response to Reply #160 |
264. Soylent Green - The meal of, by, and for the people. |
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
156. i'm appalled to find people defending this travishamockery |
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Poll_Blind
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
162. Ponder this: Is this more or less harmful to Islam than a Christian Soup Kitchen? |
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:35 PM Response to Reply #162 |
176. I find it infuriating that people are forced to endure any kind of religious proselytization |
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:44 PM Response to Reply #176 |
179. I agree. It is "the way things are" insofar as given resources... |
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Ms. Clio
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #179 |
181. yeah, well, Robin Hood was a myth |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:50 PM Response to Reply #181 |
183. Having worked with non profit human service boards for years, one of my |
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:55 PM Response to Reply #183 |
185. LOL! |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-03-07 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
184. Giving all new meaning to the name SOUP NAZI. |
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gollygee
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:03 PM Response to Reply #184 |
188. ROFL |
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Ms. Clio
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:08 PM Response to Reply #184 |
195. hahahahahahahaha !!! |
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Wed Jan-03-07 09:53 PM Response to Reply #184 |
273. You are awful! |
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SmokingJacket
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
204. One question: pork soup???? nt |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:19 PM Response to Reply #204 |
206. I almost always use ham hocks in my soup. |
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Ms. Clio
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:23 PM Response to Reply #206 |
211. ham in the navy bean soup, bacon in the frijoles, pork roast in the caldillo |
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:29 PM Response to Reply #211 |
221. If you ever get a chance to go to the Capitol in DC, have lunch at... |
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:43 PM Response to Reply #221 |
236. I actually have a can of bean soup in my pantry that claims to be that famous recipe |
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:27 PM Response to Reply #204 |
218. There are lots of soups with pork in them |
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:48 PM Response to Reply #218 |
242. In fact, I'm reheating some split pea soup cooked with a bunch of ham in it. |
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Wed Jan-03-07 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
249. I'd say the best solution would be for other groups to step up |
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Thu Jan-04-07 05:16 AM Response to Original message |
284. Irrefutably ugly and CLEAR racism |
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Sat Jan-06-07 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
286. French judge bars group's pork soup plan |
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Sat Jan-06-07 05:01 PM Response to Reply #286 |
292. The group's actions are discriminatory |
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Sun Jan-07-07 03:45 PM Response to Reply #286 |
297. The Pink Floyd approach to food distribution |
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Sun Jan-07-07 05:18 PM Response to Reply #297 |
302. And to set this sort of rule for adults is certainly a form of discrimination |
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Sat Jan-06-07 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
288. . |
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Sat Jan-06-07 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
291. Intent |
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Sat Jan-06-07 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
294. To me, this is a good reason why the government should have a major role in the prevention and |
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Sun Jan-07-07 04:24 PM Response to Reply #294 |
298. Following your logic govt soup kitchens should not serve any pork |
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Sun Jan-07-07 04:35 PM Response to Reply #298 |
299. Actually, this has already been discussed . |
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Tue Jan-09-07 02:32 PM Response to Reply #299 |
303. But what if a soup kitchen is run by atheists or secularists? |
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Sat Jan-06-07 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
295. What's being forgotten here is the historical and political context |
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Sun Jan-07-07 11:53 AM Response to Reply #295 |
296. All good points |
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