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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 05:29 PM
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I agree with MLK, but.....
"In 1953, at the age of twenty-four, King became pastor of the Dexter Avenue Baptist Church, in Montgomery, Alabama. On December 1, 1955, Rosa Parks was arrested for refusing to comply with the Jim Crow laws that required her to give up her seat to a white man. The Montgomery Bus Boycott, led by King, soon followed. (In March of the same year, a 15 year old school girl, Claudette Colvin, suffered the same fate but King refused to become involved, instead preferring to focus on leading his church.<5>) The boycott lasted for 381 days, the situation becoming so tense that King's house was bombed. King was arrested during this campaign, which ended with a United States Supreme Court decision outlawing racial segregation on all public transport."

Well, I guess there really are no 'buts' about it.

He didn't let up. No matter what people said about him, or whether or not someone bombed his house.

And he kept on trucking too:

"King, representing SCLC, was among the leaders of the so-called "Big Six" civil rights organizations who were instrumental in the organization of the March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom in 1963."

So maybe we don't all agree with how cindy does things, but she is trying to do something to keep this on the front burner.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 05:31 PM
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1. There you go!
:thumbsup:
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 05:31 PM
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2. Cindy Sheehan is a wonderful woman, but she's no MLK. NT
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Original Jack Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 06:06 PM
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4. Who among us are?
Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it. -Gandhi
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Scriptor Ignotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 06:21 PM
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8. i like that quote - eom
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Original Jack Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 06:30 PM
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10. Bombing people does, indeed, piss them off
That's why I am pissed at Dubya.

He took my tax money and used it in a misbegotten enterprise that killed and maimed babies.

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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 06:58 PM
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13. Welcome to DU Original Jack :-)
Taxation to fund war crimes... It's time to make Dubya irrelevant. Whether he remains in office for only a few weeks or for months, we've got to stop him.

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Original Jack Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 07:25 PM
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17. Well thanks, IndyOp
Not to be argumentative, but it's the people behind Dubya that need stopping, I think.

We all know that he is just a mindless, conscientiousless cheerleader.

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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 05:52 AM
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23. Welcome to Original Jack
:hi:
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 11:49 PM
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20. I'm not sure about that.
Who was MLK? He was an "ordinary" man who was inspired by horror over blatant injustice to do extraordinary things, at great risk to himself, and in doing so sparked a movement for social justice that ultimately produced real progress by preventing the apepasers from sweeping outrage under the rug.

Who is Cindy Sheehan? She is an "ordinary" woman who was inspired by grief and horror over blatant injustice to do extraordinary things, at genuine risk to herself, and in doing so provided the spark that enabled a dispirited peace movement to coalesce into a potent force.

I am not at all sure that Cindy is that different from MLK in her efforts and effects.

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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 05:54 AM
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24. Of course she's not MLK, she's Cindy Sheehan
just as MLK was not Gandhi
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 05:33 PM
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3. That's what I'm trying to say but cannot seem to get out the right words
We need Cindy Sheehan. If she wasn't out there doing this stuff, any kind of a peace movement will be buried.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 06:09 PM
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5. They called King an uppity thug.
They said things like, "oh, I thing the blacks get a bum deal, but King's just an uppity negro trying to rally things up. The only people that pay attention to him are New York liberals, jews, and n*****-lovers."
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 06:10 PM
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6. Absolutely they did, because they were
afraid of him and his movement. They are afraid of Sheehan too.. She has put a face on this war....
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 06:19 PM
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7. i am in total agreement.
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 06:26 PM
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9. Look at my sig...
And you know where I stand.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 06:46 PM
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11. If the Democrats don't defund the occupation, they deserve opposition.
I will vote Democratic, and I would not as a political adviser suggest defunding the war, but it IS the right thing to do. The anti-war movement is the movement against the war, not the movement to make Democatic politicians comfortable.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 06:47 PM
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12. MLK knew when he said; "I may not get their with you..."
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 07:10 PM
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14. Very well said, and thanks. MLK's actions remind me of what
Frederick O. Douglass said: Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never has and it never will.

And the full quote -- worth noting well! -- is this:

"Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never has, and never will.” -Frederick Douglass
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 07:12 PM
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15. Is everyone aware that there was another trial by the King family
versus the State, alleging a conspiracy by elements of the State to kill MLK. This was in 1999 in Memphis.
Long story short: the family won.
Their attorney William Pepper wrote a book about it: "An Act Of State - The Assassination of MLK". He has also held a lecture on the matter:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8419499993878733310&q=An+Act+Of+State
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 07:58 PM
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19. I read the book. Thanks for the link! The truth will out...
...but it takes far too long.

We Americans are as brainwashed as any Communist country from the past that we felt so sorry for because they were living under Godless tyranny! Funny, how things change!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 07:22 PM
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16. sorry,
I can't agree with the comparison between King and Sheehan. King's language was invariably a shining beacon. Sheehan's has become just plain old inflammatory. I find nothing inspirational in what she's said lately.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 05:22 AM
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21. Sheehan is inflammatory to the RW.
Which is a good thing.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 07:36 PM
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18. King's had the least patience not for the overt racists, but for "liberals"
Read his letter from a Birmingham Jail.

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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 05:34 AM
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22. Why should he? If they claimed to be liberals and denounced his actions, why should he be patient?
Of course MLK was going to condemn those who claimed to be liberal who also denounced his efforts as dangerous or unhelpful or harmful in a country that had institutionalized segregation. If I had denounced Sheehan's actions as harmful because it could make Democrats look bad in comparison to Repubs who also look bad, would I be helping the anti-war cause or hurting it?
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 06:38 AM
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25. Oh you've GOT to be kidding!
When does the petition for cannonization get posted?

Oy.

Julie
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