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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 10:17 PM
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SE Fla Editorial: Americans are Stupid - Bush isn't so bad
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/opinion/editorial/sfl-editgspolljan02,0,5932049.story?coll=sfla-news-editorial

Survey Says

South Florida Sun-Sentinel Editorial Board
Posted January 2 2007


ISSUE: Bush voted biggest villain.


If one of the last in a spate of year-end polls is even close to being accurate, Americans need to take a very deep breath. And chill. And understand who our enemies really are.

According to an AP-AOL poll looking for the good guy and bad guy of the year, George Bush was overwhelmingly picked as the biggest villain in 2006. Yes, he far outdistanced Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and Kim Jong II of North Korea. In the eyes of the Americans involved in that poll, none of those folks came close to being as big a villain as the president of the United States.

It is one thing to disagree, even vehemently, with Bush. The country showed decisively in the last election their disagreement with many of his policies and his conduct of the war. There have been few presidents as unpopular.

But does America really think he is a bigger villain than bin Laden? Or Hussein? Or any of the others?

<snippage>

Whether people will ever look back at George Bush fondly is very questionable. But making him out as a worse guy than bin Laden or Hussein or Kim Jong II is way over the top.

BOTTOM LINE: Americans need to understand who is really bad.


Thanks to my local paper for defining "bad" for me.

:puke:
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 10:22 PM
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1. write 'em
Give them hell.



Cher
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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 10:40 PM
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8. Oh, I will
But that Editorial just sent my blood boiling and they never print my letters that are well researched. They like pithy, smart ass letters. The Editorial Board has been infiltrated by the stealth conservatives, same as the School Board here in Broward County.

But, this is the Bluest County in the State of Florida, and we citizens will prevail - we overwhelmingly elect Dem's.

-Cindy in Fort Lauderdale
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 10:22 PM
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2. Bill Clinton got a blow job - now that is true evil!
I know what "bad" is.
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 10:26 PM
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3. I am closing my eyes...
I don't live in Florida...I don't live in Florida...I don't live in Florida...I don't live in Florida...I don't live in Florida...I don't live in Florida... PLEASE LORD!! I don't live in Florida...I don't live in Florida...I don't live in Florida... Florida? What's Florida? I don't live in Florida...I don't live in Florida...I don't live in Florida... Are you series?? I don't live in no Florida? Who lives there anyways?? I don't live in Florida...I don't live in Florida...

AHHHHHHHHH!! Someone get me out of heeeeere!!!!!!!:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 10:44 PM
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11. Get out of Orlando
Come down here to South Florida. We're Dem's here. Saw a funny comment today, somewhere on the internets. ;-)

Orlando is the only city that starts and ends with zero. :)

-Cindy in Fort Lauderdale
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 10:28 PM
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4. That paper is pretty much a worthless POS, is it not?
Ft. Lauderdale deserves much better.
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 10:29 PM
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5. the members of the administration have killed more people than any of those other guys
and have more destructive power at their fingers than the rest could ever dream of
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 10:31 PM
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6. write a letter to them
Bush is responsible for 650,000+ Iraqi deaths
Osama is responsible for 3,000
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 09:13 PM
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21. How do you really know Osama is responsible?
The Bush* Administration said the evidence was overwhelming but could not be shown to the public for security reasons. I personally never saw any evidence Osama had anything to do with 9-11.. :shrug:
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 10:35 PM
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7. I don't know, but completely destroying a country of 25 million people seems pretty evil to me.
With 655,000 estimated dead Iraqis, tens of thousands of tortured and detained Iraqis, and 1.2 million of them fleeing their own country, I think the Chimp wins hands-down.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 10:41 PM
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9. most comments disagree with editors
it appears the worm has turned. bush is reviled as hurting the country, damaging it, to no purpose. even his defenders seem mule headed rather then thoughtful....
what the editorial writer thinks must be confusing. the fact is, bush has inflicted more damage on us then anyone else in the poll. and baldly claiming otherwise just makes patent how ridiculous the entire editorial stance is
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 10:43 PM
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10. I think Bush is a bigger villian than bin Laden, Hussein, and Kim.
But then again, I don't read the South Flordia Sun-Sentinel.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 10:46 PM
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12. Gee (sniff), I never realized....
Sure, he has his faults, but gosh darn, I'd sure like to have a beer with him!

And then maybe a few shots, some martinis and then some shooters! Ha Ha!

He'sh my beshtest friend in the WORLLLLd! Aren't ya buddy? Buddy?

Buddy?
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mindwalker_i Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 10:46 PM
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13. Yeah, he ain't so bad...
Bush hasn't killed 6 million, only 655 thousand. And one.

Bush hasn't mowed down swaths of poor peasants or anything, just made them a little poorer. Oh, and made his friends a little richer.

And Bush didn't kill all those black people in New Orleans. They shouldn't have been counting on him to save them anyway.

Bush may not be Mother Teresa, but he isn't the great Satan either. Not exactly.

-mwalker
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irislake Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 11:17 PM
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14. "Who cares what you think?"
To quote your own pretzeldent -- you are out-voted at home and in the rest of the world. Suck it up Sun-Sentinel.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 11:30 PM
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15. Americans are Stupid.
At least 60 million of them, anyway.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 11:32 PM
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16. Let's start with; who's caused more deaths?
That would be george w. bush.

End of that discussion.
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 11:33 PM
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17. where is Cindy Sheehan when we need her

this newspaper can fuck off
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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 12:45 AM
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18. I just submitted this LTTE
My MS wireless keyboard and mouse are dying, so this may not compute. . .

Survey says?

Bad guy? Thank you so much, for defining “bad” for me and suggesting that Americans are Stupid. The Sun Sentinel Editorial Board has reached a new low.

The public does not need to “chill”. The Editorial Board needs to get a clue.

George W. Bush and his cabinet/adminstration are responsible for more than 500,000 civilian deaths in Iraq. http://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/

Directly responsible for more than 3,000 United States military personnel – dead.

DEAD.

Happy New Year.

Dare I mention the disabled Soldiers? Those without limbs? Oh, we’re not supposed to talk about “them”, are we?

DISABLED – WITHOUT LIMBS –

GWB has issued more “Signing Statements” than every other President in the history of the United States, He actually wrote, that he thinks torture is subject to HIS interpretation.

What the?

I want my county back! I want Peace and Justice. I want care for the Vets.

I am weary, weary of the Economic Plunder that GWB has caused this nation, But, also disgusted by, what’s the word?, Oh yeah, bullshit – such as the Editorial Board wrote.




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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 08:19 PM
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19. They called today - are considering printing my LTTE
For what it's worth.
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 08:21 PM
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20. good job on the letter
what was your response to them?
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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 09:22 PM
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22. The Sun Sentinel Has Printed Two (Good) Responses
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/opinion/letters/sfl-brmail632jan05,0,6900019.story?coll=sfla-news-letters

List of known wrongs is already long

Ruth Karter
Coconut Creek
Posted January 5 2007


I think you miss the point of those who voted for President Bush as the biggest villain in 2006. True, Osama bin Laden, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Kim Jong II have the potential to cause great harm and great hardship to our country, but the operative word there is potential. President Bush, by his actions since the beginning of his presidency, has already caused great harm and great hardship to our country.

His most "villain-est" act was to manipulate our country into an unnecessary and unwinnable war without a clue as to how he was to achieve his unjustifiable aims. However, his ignoring the protections of the Bill of Rights; his indifference to the plight of the poor and the helpless, as exemplified by his behavior after Hurricane Katrina; his fiscal irresponsibility by allowing our country to amass such excessive debt in order to allow tax cuts for the wealthy; the extreme partisanship he helped to create; his rollback of environmental protections, and his behavior causing the United States to be disrespected all over the world, are things that could never be superseded by anything that triumvirate of dictators could ever do to us.

Even the death and destruction caused by 9-11, horrible as it was, pales by comparison to what we have wrought in death and destruction to our own troops as well as the Iraqi people.

And sadly, this list of the wrongs he has heaped on our country is far from complete. When his secret archives are finally viewed, the information uncovered will likely make the above listing be like the first page in a thick book.


http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/opinion/letters/sfl-brmail631jan05,0,6506802.story?coll=sfla-news-letters

Bush deserves `villain' label and more

Jack Miller
Pompano Beach
Posted January 5 2007

Twenty-five percent of the population of the country think that George Bush is a bigger villain than bin Laden or Saddam Hussein. Your editorial says that this is way over the top. I strongly disagree.

George Bush intentionally lied to us about a link between 9-11 and al-Qaida, lied about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, and launched an unprecedented attack on a country that did not pose a danger to our country.

What was the outcome? The death of over 3,000 American service men and women and the injuring of an additional tens of thousands, sectarian violence between Shiites and Sunnis that may explode into the rest of the Muslim countries, and the death of many innocent Iraqi civilians. The Middle East has become even more destabilized.

Not only is Bush a villain, but I believe that he should be impeached and tried for war crimes.

I have seen many presidents in my lifetime. I never thought that I would see one worse than Nixon.

I hope that we wake up in 2008 and elect a president who will lead our nation to the greatness that we once knew.


Not related to Editorial, but worth mentioning:

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/opinion/letters/sfl-brmail6022jan04,0,2989675.story?coll=sfla-news-letters

Iraqis should try Bush

Wayne Creveling
Hollywood
Posted January 4 2007

Now that we have gotten rid of one despot, hopefully, when the Iraqis have a government free of U.S. dominance, they will bring George Bush to trial for the murders of thousands of innocent Iraqis and for destroying the infrastructure of their country via an illegal invasion.


-Cindy in Fort Lauderdale







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