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keopeli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 01:03 AM
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The Trump Card: Impeachment
What Cindy and her supporters did for Americans and soldiers today helped me realize something that had been hidden beneath a Rovian veneer and seems all to familiar.

Bush is pushing for an acceleration in the War. Why? Politics: it's the only reason Bush has ever made a decision. Otherwise, he would do nothing.

Once the Democrats sign on to this acceleration, they will be as culpable in the current crisis as Bush, inoculating the Republicans for 08 (Rove?).

There is a catch: we must fail.

Any rational person can perceive that the only increase in military presence that would have any positive impact at all would need to be a massive increase and reassertion of some governmental duties.

The Democrats have been being made to look as though they have no options except to cut off funding, since the President is charged with administering the military. Yet, the Democrats, perhaps with good reason, might be reluctant to cut funds for the military endeavor that has trapped 140000 troops in Iraq during a civil war.

We have been made to believe that the Democrats must fund the military and support anything Bush chooses because, to do less would be to deprive the troops. (Rove?)

The day has finally come and the power is shifting hands. Senator Reid and Speaker Pelosi may now sit in the oval office and tell Bush to withdraw from Iraq today or face certain impeachment. While they're at it, they should warn him against using signing statements under the same threat.

Frankly, I can live with Bush for two more years if he is stepped upon the whole time by Democrats and lawyers. I don't mind dangling the threat of impeachment over his head and making him heel for two solid years. Put his sorry ass out in public and make him speak. Let him impeach himself with his stunning mastery of English - especially improvisation.

But MAKE him withdraw troops.

The Democrats have a LOT of power. We must insist that Reid and Pelosi USE IT!

Peace
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 01:22 AM
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1. If empeachment is seen as a real possibility...
then I believe that the following will happen and happen quickly. Cheney will resign...stating health reasons or whatever, bush will replace him with john mccain...then if bush is empeached, JM becomes president...which sets him up for election in 2008...or if bush is not empeached, he is still set up for 2008....and the unending wars will continue.
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 03:04 AM
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2. Would It Be Worth It?
Taking George & Cheney down? Would it be worth the risk having McCain in there would bring? Would that put the repubs in the lead for the WH in '08? I find it highly unlikely that George will take one for the team. He's more the type to throw everyone overboard so he can have the life raft all to himself.
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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 01:26 PM
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3. There is NO WAY ...

There is no way in hell that the Democrats would place a 2008 Republican frontrunner into the position of being an incumbant. If Cheney were to resign for some reason, you would simply refuse to confirm anyone but a very weak Republican (like say ... Ford).

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 01:52 PM
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4. They already told him impeachment is off the table.
He has no restraints if he so chooses.
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