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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 06:32 PM
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I would like to apologize for this post from yesterday.
Edited on Thu Jan-04-07 06:45 PM by kentuck
Obviously, a corresponding thread seems to have created a divide that should not be used to divide us. This is indeed a day to celebrate. My post was worded very badly, I admit. My intent was to impress upon our Party the need to hold Bush accountable. It was a terrible post on my part - at least the title was terrible. Sometimes we all put our foot in our mouth, I suppose?
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Ultimatum to the Democrats: Impeach or find yourself back in the minority!

There comes a time when the truth can no longer be denied. The truth is that each day this Administration is in power, the worse our nation will be. Nothing is going to get better with this crowd. The Congress has a duty and responsibility to bring this chaos under control.

Why an ultimatum? Because the Congress will not move otherwise. They must feel the heat of the people's disapproval. Just being back in power is not enough. We need to stop this slide into anarchy and lawlessness now. Not in January, 2009. Now!




(and here are the other posts I made in that thread)

24. Good point...

Maybe it is best to investigate and get out the truth and disgrace this man and leave him without the legacy he so covets...

15. I passionately request impeachment but....

I know this Congress is not going to impeach. My hope is that they investigate thoroughly. It seems we have seen enough to impeach already without further investigations. But, it does not work that way. There has to be an investigation process to reach a public consensus.

21. Makes sense...

Cheney is able to slip scrutiny as the VP...

91. I guess we represent the rest of the Party...?

Edited on Thu Jan-04-07 08:35 AM by kentuck
I suspect there are a lot of Democrats, besides a few here, that want Bush held accountable. My post was meant to be a written corollary similar to Cindy Sheehan's protest yesterday. It was meant to get the attention of Democrats that we are serious about withdrawing the troops and holding the criminals accountable. There is a time for "bi-partisanship" but this is not the time. Sheep do not negotiate with wolves. To suggest that "impeachment" leads to defeat does not hold water. Repubs impeached Clinton in '98 and held on to the Congress for 8 more years...There is no proof that the impeachment had anything to do with their recent defeat.

With that said, I do not think there will be an impeachment but Bush doesn't know that. The Democrats should keep him on the defensive and in his cage in whatever way they can - even with threats of impeachment or other means. To do this, we have to keep the attention of the Democrats so they are not deluded into some "bi-partisan" stupor...

95. Perhaps a question mark (?) would have been more instructive...

Sometimes the "edit" time runs out on us... :)
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 06:58 PM
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1. Kentuck,Dont you dare apologize for one word of your post.
Dare to speak the truth and with no apologies,If people cant handle the facts that is there problem.Do not back down from them
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 07:09 PM
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2. No apology needed, here.. No offense taken.
You were expressing a concern you have. It's a well-founded fear, given the history which the Party has of losing majorities and not following through on its promises.

Maybe this time, they won't disappoint us.:hi: :kick:
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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 07:10 PM
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3. No apologies neccessary.
What would make anyone think that politicians embrace change willingly?
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 07:14 PM
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4. You've got nothing to apologize for, kentuck!
Other than the fact that a Democratic minority would mean a Bushevik majority, I have not a single disagreement with your post.

We busted our asses and helped put Dems in office all over the nation. They had damned well better listen good and hard to the reasons why the American people put them into office. Yes, they were put into office to get to work and fix the dishonest disaster the nation has become.

But, in a close second, they were also to at the very least stop the corruption, enforce the law, and at most, to impeach the bums.

From an evidentiary standpoint, impeaching Bush & Cheney should be the easiest thing in the world, considering their cirmes were executed in broad daylight, with contempt for everyone, shamelessly and openly.

However, the threat of killed careers and literal killings, (I predict that if impeachment begins, the pile of corpses will mount. If impeachment is iminent, a "terrorist" attack that kills Congress is a strong possibility) the intimidating factors of the Imperial Family and their many allies (not to mention the trail of mysteriously dead people who opposed the Busheviks strongly and effectively) will make impeachment an incredinly difficult, if not impossible task.

But from an evidentary standpoint, if BushCheney were two regular slobs who embezzled their employer?

Decade long sentences within a month, a jury that deliberated 5 minutes before coming back with unanimous guilty verdict.
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 07:34 PM
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5. Well, Logically Impeachment Proceedings Will Get In The Way Of Other Democratic Agendas
and undermine whatever goodwill we received from moderates and frustrated Republicans.

But looking back to all the damage that he's done and the imperial style that he continues to do (like reading my mail) I say impeach those sumbitches!
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 08:47 PM
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6. I don't feel as though you have anything to apologize for, Kentuck
I read your post today only after I had read the other snarky post. I wish that I had read it in time to recommend your post. If you want to see for-real foot-in-the-mouth posts, go look through some of the things that I have posted, it will lift your spirits and make you feel better about yourself--guarenteed. :)
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