While the champagne corks are popping, please remember this:

[Mister Ed]

We have one year and ten months in which to do away with:

1) Mass disenfranchisement of Democratic-leaning voters.

2) Voting machines made by right-wing corporations, running "proprietary" software that cannot be scrutinized, producing vote tallies that can never be audited or recounted.


If we fail to accomplish that during this respite we've won, then it could be a very long time before the champagne corks pop for us again.

Cheers, and let's get to work!

[AnnieBW]

1. And Another

We still have a Senator that's on the DL. Get well soon, Sen. Johnson!

[oldtime dfl_er]

2. This has to be a priority

and it will be up to us to keep the pressure on.

http://www.cafepress.com/scarebaby/658010

[Original Jack]

3. How do you explain away the Dem win of 2006?

... with all those "voting machines made by right-wing corporations, running "proprietary" software that cannot be scrutinized, producing vote tallies that can never be audited or recounted"?

[havocmom]

4. Poll numbers! To steal with some degree of believability, GOP needed close numbers

They didn't have them last November.

And, welcome to DU. It will be interesting to read more of your posts.

[Jim Sagle]

7. Not that we'll get the chance.

;)

[Original Jack]

8. So they can rig the actual vote...

... but not the polls?

[havocmom]

14. When you ask Joe Citizen on the street, it is harder to program the answer

than it is to program a computer using software corporations argue is trade secret.

:eyes:

[Sydnie]

6. Oh boy

[Mnemosyne]

9. Great place to start educating yourself - the Election Reform forum here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=203

Welcome to DU.

[Mister Ed]

10. I'm not explaining anything away. But the facts are as I've stated.

There has been mass disenfranchisement of groups of voters that lean Democratic.

The voting machines are made by right-wing corporations (heavy republican donors).

The software is "propriety" and not subject to scrutiny, so we must take the results on faith.

It is impossible to perform a meaningful audit or recount with these machines.


(Edited for spelling and to add the spiffy italics.)

[Original Jack]

11. So vote Absentee

And encourage others to do likewise.

But then you have to obsess with who counts the absentee ballots.

Have you ever gotten involved in your precinct?

[Mister Ed]

12. Worked as an election judge this past election. Think I'll keep doing it. n/t

[Original Jack]

13. Anyone can be anyone

... on the internets.

[TankLV]

15. Just like your "concerned" for us.....

I'm sure you have an agenda, but we ain't playin...

too bad for you...

[havocmom]

17. Yeah, anyone can be a member of the Democratic Party and/or a liberal

... on the internets.
:rofl:

[BikeWriter]

21. Have I mentioned the time I posted on that freeper site?

[havocmom]

16. A lot of black troops in Iraq did that in 04, only to have their ballots tossed by the GOP

http://www.gregpalast.com/massacre-of-the-buffalo-soldiers

And absentee ballots are not as safe as we would hope. Lots of ways to mess with those, like some states not printing that they require extra postage for mailing them back - which means a lot of them don't get counted because they don't get delivered. Other tricks possible too. In AZ, for instance, the party you are registered with is printed on the OUTSIDE of the envelope. Now, why would that be necessary? No legitimate reason at all, but it sure makes it easier to tamper with incoming ballots if someone wanted to make sure more from one party got counted. No reason to "obsess" about absentee ballots. It is easy enough to see how they can be tampered with. LOL Election fraud was not just invented with the advent of the computer voting systems!

Yep, as easy to see some of the pitfalls to secure and honest elections as it is to see bias in questioning concern for secure and honest elections.

Involved in my precinct? Yes. I hand count votes, as a matter of fact.

[Lyric]

18. The same way I'd explain why crooked casinos occasionally let people win

You gotta keep 'em believing that the game is fair in order to lull people into a false sense of fairness and security.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know how to run a con. Which is a good thing for conservatives, 'cause most of them (*cough*YOU*cough*) aren't exactly rocket scientist material. Actually, considering how much conservatives loathe and despise the Evil Institution of Science, I'm surprised they (*cough*YOU*cough*) haven't come up with the The Godly Intelligent Design of Astrophysic And Mechanics® in order to explain where rockets come from. Or maybe they (*cough*YOU*cough*) are still too concerned with turning women into slave-labor baby factories to worry about that just yet.

Please Admins, can't we play with this one for just a *little* longer? :popcorn:

[havocmom]

20. Damn fine analogy!

And my ol momma used to insist it was GOP habit to screw things up then have the DEMS step in and do the repairs so there was something left to break again later.

[rknryd]

19. First of all

More awareness of the problem = more people watching closely. Second, 4 major gop wins in a row? A bit obvious don't ya think? These repugs may be a lot of things but they aren't stupid.

[babylonsister]

5. And nobody talks to a horse, of course. How can I believe you?

Hey, neighhhh-bor!
Enough! Good post, good points, couldn't resist.