CAPTION: Unka Dick with Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy

[NYC Liberal]

[rebel with a cause]

1. I'd like to know just what is being said.

I would probably be disappointed. Bill looks like he is speaking his mind, and cheney looks like he is just wishing he could slither away. Kennedy doesn't look too happy either, but cheney has a more pleasant look on his face to him.

[Greeby]

2. What has happened to the side of Ted's face?

:wow:

[rebel with a cause]

4. Looks like busted blood vessels.

Maybe from exposure to sun and wind. Happens sometimes. :shrug:

[Hekate]

10. I hope he's being treated for sun damage, because after treatment it should look better

The tabloids like to print pix of Kennedy and claim his blemishes are gin blossoms due to his drinking, but it's not necessarily so.

If he is being treated for sun damage (aka precancerous lesions) he would probably have been prescribed a cream like Effudex; by the time you've used up the tube, your face and neck look a lot like that. The more bad stuff there is to kill, the worse you look. It's almost as unpleasant as it looks.

He could also have rosacea, which can afflict fair-skinned people.

In any case, if a dermatologist did this to him, he'll get better in a month or two. Right now he certainly doesn't photograph well.

Hekate

[NJCher]

3. I like this body language

I wish I could see Clinton's face. I would hate to be on the receiving end, because I have a feeling it is his penetrating stare. We've all seen it before. Clinton has a formidible intellect and Satan is on the receiving end. If you look on the bottom half of Hillary's face, you will see that is not a smile: it is a smirk. Kick yo' ass.

Satan Cheney is not having a good time in either photograph.

In the second one, he is actually leaning back--away from Ted Kennedy, who is expressing something about which he feels strongly.



Cher

[rebel with a cause]

5. Look at Bill's finger

It is pointing squarly at cheney, and that is something he was very careful about when he was pres. Remember the three finger point.

[still_one]

16. no he's not. If you saw the full video clip they were smiling and laughing

and bill clinton patted cheney on the shoulder like they were good buds

I don't trust any of them, especially after what we have been through the last six years when the Democrats practically rubber-stamped everything this administration threw at them, including Supreme Court justices

They have the majority now, lets see if they do their job

[aquart]

20. Oh my goodness! Bill Clinton displays good manners in public!

What a shock to the nervous system. Have you ever, under any circumstances or any kind of pressure, seen him display BAD manners?

What are you going to scream when you see Pelosi bantering with Republicans?

I'm much too suspicious, I guess. When I see someone spreading disinformation about Democrats, I have ugly thoughts. TWO threads to condemn the Clintons. And Hillary a potential presidential candidate unless someone can make her seem like, say, she's betraying her own party? Yes, these have been difficult years and I am way too suspicious.

Honey, I may have been born yesterday, but I've been in town all morning.

[still_one]

22. No, I don't expect him to display bad manners, but practically embracing the bastard

is not called for, and overdoing it.

To answer you first question have I ever seen him diplay BAD manners? YES, when he betrayed the Democratic party for a blow job.

The SOB was warned by staff that the right wing neocons were out to get us, and to stop screwing around with the intern, and he instead flipped us the byrd. He continued reagan's policies with the communication act which no longer required equal time for opposing points of view, and enabled media mergers which have helped bring us to the state of journalism that we are in now. I am sure many our happy with the wonderful trade agreements his administration negotiated also, which gave all the benefits to corporations, and internaltional interests, and very little to the workers here. Fair trade Mr. Clinton, NOT FREE TRADE, at our expense.

In the last six years VERY FEW DEMOCRATS in Congress stood up for Democratic principles. The IWR and the patriot are the best examples of that, and because of the actions of the Congressional Democrats, NOT only is a woman's right to choose is in jeparody, but so is basic civil rights and privacy issues.

There was only ONE SENATOR WHO VOTED AGAINST THE PATRIOT ACT and that was Russ Feingold.

You and I are both entitled to our respective opinions, but yes, I DO FEEL we have been betrayed, and NOT only by the Clintons

[karynnj]

21. The Democrats didn't have the numbers to stop Bush on anything

especially after 2004. Te votes were often split on party lines - with VERY few Republiacans jumping ship on anything.

About the only thing we could have doen that we didn't was stop Alito - but the party leadership really didn't want to.

[still_one]

24. Actually during the Dascille Congress they DID HAVE THE NUMBERS

but were AFRAID to stand up

As far as the Supreme court appointments, that wonderful threat where they compromised NOT TO FILIBUSTER because the republicans said they would disallow filibuster if the Democrats did it, with an up or down vote was a disgrace. The Democrats SHOULD HAVE CALLED THEIR BLUFF, let them get rid of the filibuster. What goes around comes around.

Sometime you stand up for what is right, win or lose. Russ Feingold WAS THE ONLY SENATOR WHO VOTED AGAINST THE PARTRIOT ACT because it was the right thing to do, and he read it.

What is your view on investigation of this administration? What if abuse of power or illegal activities, which led us to war in Iraq is found, should impeachment be used? Or should the Democrats just stand down?

[flordehinojos]

6. is there something wrong with darth vader's neck? he can't seem to hold his head straight.

[NJCher]

7. He's doin' "The Squirm"

I feel good.

I knew that I would.



Cher

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

27. All of the awful secrets in there

keep his head tilted like the bad guy's hangouts in Batman TV shows.

[dubeskin]

8. Here's mine:

Clinton/Cheney:
Clinton: Now I don't want you trying anything funny with her, ya hear? That Lewinsky thing is in the past, and I don't want you making up for it with Hil here.

Kennedy:
I can't think of anything.

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[sam sarrha]

11. it disturbs me that they are so friendly with that Rat Bastard

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

12. Bill and Hil... hearts and minds

[dipsydoodle]

13. very clever of you to do that

:rofl:

[cyclezealot]

14. I take my greatest pleasure in

the swearing in of Sen. Bernie Sanders and Jay Rockefeller being chair of Senate Intelligence and Henry Waxman taking on Bush's many lies.

[still_one]

15. They are a bunch of whores playing us for suckers /nt

The Democrats have two years to grow a backbone and do their job, something they haven't been doing for the last six years

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

17. No, they don't have 2 years. They have 2 days

tops.

Or the press and GOP will eat them for lunch.

[cyclezealot]

18. My solution

I am presently wearing a t shirt. Says, "Kucinich,'A Democrat with Backbone." The t shirt I take my greatest pride in wearing.

[still_one]

25. You should be proud. People like Dennis will also keep focus on the REAL ISSUES

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[still_one]

26. I tend to agree, but I do realize that it is the only game in town

which is why change in the Democratic party needs to take place within, and get rid of those who our out for there own self-interest

[WI_DEM]

23. I hate to disillusion some of you, but my guess is that neither Clinton or Kennedy

are confronting Cheney in anyway but actually joshing with him in that Washington insider way.